TH 2-0 EDG
March 17, 2024
1:20 PM EDT
Patch 8.04
PRX ban Breeze; TH ban Ascent; PRX pick Sunset; TH pick Lotus; PRX ban Icebox; TH ban Bind; Split remains
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1.25 1.35 1.17 | 273 275 272 | 22 12 10 | / 18 9 9 / | 11 2 9 | +4 +3 +1 | 87% 82% 92% | 193 181 205 | 50% 48% 52% | 1 0 1 | 1 0 1 | 0 0 0 | |
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1.11 1.30 0.94 | 270 314 231 | 20 11 9 | / 18 9 9 / | 7 3 4 | +2 +2 0 | 83% 82% 83% | 163 191 138 | 38% 44% 31% | 5 5 0 | 5 2 3 | 0 +3 -3 | |
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1.02 0.55 1.45 | 201 77 315 | 17 3 14 | / 17 8 9 / | 5 2 3 | 0 -5 +5 | 65% 45% 83% | 146 70 216 | 35% 27% 37% | 4 1 3 | 2 1 1 | +2 0 +2 | |
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0.98 0.89 1.06 | 155 172 141 | 15 7 8 | / 15 8 7 / | 6 3 3 | 0 -1 +1 | 65% 55% 75% | 112 126 100 | 26% 18% 33% | 0 0 0 | 3 1 2 | -3 -1 -2 | |
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0.52 0.27 0.74 | 122 105 139 | 8 3 5 | / 20 11 9 / | 15 6 9 | -12 -8 -4 | 70% 64% 75% | 92 88 96 | 23% 27% 20% | 1 0 1 | 1 1 0 | 0 -1 +1 |
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1.25 1.05 1.46 | 231 200 266 | 19 8 11 | / 14 8 6 / | 7 4 3 | +5 0 +5 | 87% 75% 100% | 156 127 188 | 20% 17% 22% | 3 1 2 | 1 0 1 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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1.12 0.72 1.57 | 225 132 328 | 20 6 14 | / 17 9 8 / | 7 1 6 | +3 -3 +6 | 65% 50% 82% | 135 74 203 | 23% 9% 36% | 3 2 1 | 2 2 0 | +1 0 +1 | |
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1.03 1.04 1.03 | 223 245 199 | 18 10 8 | / 19 12 7 / | 11 7 4 | -1 -2 +1 | 78% 83% 73% | 158 157 158 | 29% 35% 24% | 3 2 1 | 4 1 3 | -1 +1 -2 | |
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1.01 1.02 0.99 | 196 200 192 | 17 9 8 | / 15 8 7 / | 3 1 2 | +2 +1 +1 | 74% 67% 82% | 126 124 128 | 38% 39% 38% | 2 1 1 | 2 1 1 | 0 0 0 | |
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0.86 1.08 0.61 | 174 224 121 | 14 10 4 | / 17 9 8 / | 4 2 2 | -3 +1 -4 | 78% 75% 82% | 117 143 88 | 22% 21% 24% | 1 1 0 | 2 1 1 | -1 0 -1 |
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0.96 1.53 1.27 | 257 180 319 | 62 20 42 | / 45 21 24 / | 10 4 6 | +17 -1 +18 | 70% 60% 78% | 173 126 213 | 35% 27% 40% | 9 2 7 | 3 2 1 | +6 0 +6 | |
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1.18 1.08 1.13 | 218 225 216 | 51 26 25 | / 46 22 24 / | 21 4 17 | +5 +4 +1 | 74% 77% 72% | 152 151 153 | 41% 39% 42% | 7 4 3 | 4 2 2 | +3 +2 +1 | |
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1.06 1.16 1.11 | 220 239 215 | 49 23 26 | / 46 24 22 / | 20 9 11 | +3 -1 +4 | 76% 70% 81% | 140 149 132 | 34% 37% 32% | 11 6 5 | 11 6 5 | 0 0 0 | |
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0.66 1.17 0.94 | 169 136 198 | 42 13 29 | / 45 23 22 / | 21 9 12 | -3 -10 +7 | 64% 50% 75% | 114 96 129 | 32% 28% 34% | 1 0 1 | 10 6 4 | -9 -6 -3 | |
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0.43 0.66 0.56 | 118 98 137 | 22 8 14 | / 51 25 26 / | 29 12 17 | -29 -17 -12 | 65% 53% 75% | 84 71 94 | 17% 16% 18% | 5 0 5 | 5 2 3 | 0 -2 +2 |
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1.26 1.41 1.33 | 267 272 261 | 61 34 27 | / 40 24 16 / | 13 6 7 | +21 +10 +11 | 82% 75% 90% | 167 154 183 | 27% 32% 23% | 14 8 6 | 4 2 2 | +10 +6 +4 | |
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0.70 1.56 1.09 | 230 137 335 | 52 18 34 | / 48 28 20 / | 23 5 18 | +4 -10 +14 | 64% 56% 73% | 140 80 212 | 27% 31% 25% | 9 2 7 | 10 8 2 | -1 -6 +5 | |
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0.88 1.06 0.96 | 169 173 164 | 40 22 18 | / 44 27 17 / | 29 12 17 | -4 -5 +1 | 76% 72% 80% | 111 113 110 | 25% 20% 32% | 2 1 1 | 2 1 1 | 0 0 0 | |
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0.86 1.03 0.94 | 188 204 171 | 44 24 20 | / 50 32 18 / | 32 21 11 | -6 -8 +2 | 71% 69% 73% | 123 128 118 | 26% 25% 27% | 6 3 3 | 9 5 4 | -3 -2 -1 | |
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0.78 0.77 0.78 | 145 159 133 | 36 20 16 | / 44 25 19 / | 12 6 6 | -8 -5 -3 | 67% 61% 73% | 99 106 91 | 37% 43% 30% | 2 1 1 | 8 5 3 | -6 -4 -2 |
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1.61 1.27 1.92 | 290 264 316 | 23 10 13 | / 14 8 6 / | 10 4 6 | +9 +2 +7 | 87% 82% 92% | 183 163 202 | 36% 33% 38% | 4 1 3 | 3 2 1 | +1 -1 +2 | |
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1.45 1.68 1.23 | 269 327 217 | 24 14 10 | / 13 6 7 / | 2 2 0 | +11 +8 +3 | 83% 100% 67% | 178 224 136 | 36% 33% 40% | 2 1 1 | 0 0 0 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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1.23 1.48 1.00 | 209 234 186 | 18 10 8 | / 13 5 8 / | 4 2 2 | +5 +5 0 | 74% 91% 58% | 139 158 122 | 44% 44% 44% | 4 3 1 | 1 1 0 | +3 +2 +1 | |
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0.89 0.62 1.13 | 178 144 209 | 14 4 10 | / 15 8 7 / | 9 5 4 | -1 -4 +3 | 61% 64% 58% | 120 95 143 | 26% 30% 23% | 0 0 0 | 4 3 1 | -4 -3 -1 | |
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0.73 0.80 0.67 | 132 113 150 | 9 4 5 | / 15 6 9 / | 7 4 3 | -6 -2 -4 | 70% 64% 75% | 81 68 94 | 11% 6% 16% | 3 0 3 | 2 0 2 | +1 0 +1 |
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1.45 1.33 1.59 | 298 301 296 | 24 13 11 | / 14 8 6 / | 2 1 1 | +10 +5 +5 | 78% 75% 82% | 185 168 203 | 33% 32% 35% | 6 3 3 | 0 0 0 | +6 +3 +3 | |
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0.77 0.64 0.91 | 152 151 153 | 12 7 5 | / 18 10 8 / | 10 2 8 | -6 -3 -3 | 74% 83% 64% | 104 99 110 | 24% 18% 32% | 1 0 1 | 0 0 0 | +1 0 +1 | |
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0.68 0.96 0.36 | 146 195 94 | 12 8 4 | / 18 8 10 / | 7 3 4 | -6 0 -6 | 61% 67% 55% | 104 143 62 | 40% 50% 25% | 0 0 0 | 4 2 2 | -4 -2 -2 | |
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0.68 0.59 0.77 | 144 80 216 | 10 4 6 | / 19 9 10 / | 9 2 7 | -9 -5 -4 | 52% 50% 55% | 92 46 143 | 18% 27% 16% | 1 0 1 | 4 2 2 | -3 -2 -1 | |
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0.64 0.46 0.84 | 162 174 149 | 12 5 7 | / 19 11 8 / | 8 6 2 | -7 -6 -1 | 52% 50% 55% | 113 128 97 | 21% 19% 25% | 2 1 1 | 5 4 1 | -3 -3 0 |
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1.35 0.53 1.90 | 302 119 424 | 21 3 18 | / 15 7 8 / | 3 0 3 | +6 -4 +10 | 60% 25% 83% | 199 69 286 | 33% 8% 42% | 3 0 3 | 1 1 0 | +2 -1 +3 | |
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0.95 0.41 1.31 | 175 75 242 | 13 2 11 | / 15 7 8 / | 6 1 5 | -2 -5 +3 | 65% 25% 92% | 108 55 143 | 54% 75% 50% | 1 0 1 | 3 2 1 | -2 -2 0 | |
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0.87 0.56 1.07 | 171 143 191 | 11 4 7 | / 15 8 7 / | 6 0 6 | -4 -4 0 | 60% 50% 67% | 120 99 134 | 26% 17% 30% | 2 1 1 | 2 1 1 | 0 0 0 | |
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0.55 0.45 0.62 | 99 104 97 | 6 2 4 | / 14 7 7 / | 3 2 1 | -8 -5 -3 | 55% 38% 67% | 63 71 57 | 19% 25% 15% | 2 0 2 | 3 2 1 | -1 -2 +1 | |
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0.41 0.14 0.58 | 99 68 121 | 5 1 4 | / 16 8 8 / | 7 2 5 | -11 -7 -4 | 55% 25% 75% | 77 53 93 | 18% 14% 19% | 1 0 1 | 2 1 1 | -1 -1 0 |
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1.52 0.78 2.62 | 322 198 509 | 22 8 14 | / 12 10 2 / | 7 2 5 | +10 -2 +12 | 75% 67% 88% | 201 122 319 | 37% 45% 29% | 5 0 5 | 4 4 0 | +1 -4 +5 | |
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1.31 0.92 1.89 | 181 145 237 | 14 5 9 | / 9 8 1 / | 15 8 7 | +5 -3 +8 | 75% 58% 100% | 114 96 140 | 30% 20% 41% | 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | |
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1.28 1.40 1.10 | 272 316 207 | 18 13 5 | / 12 8 4 / | 4 1 3 | +6 +5 +1 | 80% 75% 88% | 160 168 149 | 30% 44% 14% | 5 4 1 | 3 2 1 | +2 +2 0 | |
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1.17 1.08 1.30 | 180 194 161 | 14 9 5 | / 12 9 3 / | 13 8 5 | +2 0 +2 | 85% 75% 100% | 96 98 91 | 29% 24% 38% | 1 0 1 | 0 0 0 | +1 0 +1 | |
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0.62 0.36 1.02 | 92 83 107 | 7 3 4 | / 11 9 2 / | 2 2 0 | -4 -6 +2 | 65% 50% 88% | 62 50 80 | 28% 38% 20% | 0 0 0 | 2 2 0 | -2 -2 0 |
Head-to-head
Past Matches
not really, let's sigh this though https://www.vlr.gg/316984/change-org-petition-to-relegate-emea-from-tier-1
TH may aswell book their flights now They have no chance against a wkey team full of shooters not only that but miniboo wont be able to get away with the wkey playstyle against a team pressing their w key more i will say tho this will be closer than fpx loud like what is that match up LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO u could play 5 duelist and win that as loud, if im riot im telling the cn league teams to move apac and deleting the league the only good team outta that region is edg and i still dont think their contenders, and btw the reason behind th 0-2 is PRX dont lose in lowers and and they literally play with no care literally like silver ranked but with obvs strats and insane aim, the only team that should be making changes after this is fpx and thats just getting outta valo entirely
Why tf would I care what happened to random ass people who happen to be from the same country as me
I hope Heretics destroy PRX so hard like 13-2 both maps so they will bench Monyet or completely realize that he is not a Raze player.
Anyone here knows if PRX can still get a new player after Madrid or are the rosters locked?
Edit: Well it seems EDG already made them realize. #f0rsakenGOD
I wish the best for the something but TH clean sweeps
After that PRX make changes
Monyet performance affect everyone on the team, he shaking.
Lack of trust will continue to grow if midnyet keep this peak of performance.
We didnt expect monyet to be top fraggers. We just want atleast he got + rating in bo3 series.
Raze doesnt work with him anymore, bcs for 1 year he always play smoker on GE. Maybe another role like sentinel or initiator will work.
This is going to be insane. Heretics or PRX eliminated!
I hope TH win but its gonna be difficult
After the first matches I have very little faith in PRX. Heretics looked strong against SEN, it was definitely winnable. Wouldn't be surprised if this is a quick 2-0 for TH
TH looking solid. i doubt PRX will improve in such a short time unless alecks stop making monyet play duelist
sad to say but th will prob take it, monyets rlly gonna have to step up if they want to win it
TH ban Ascent
PRX ban Icebox
TH pick Lotus
PRX pick Split
TH ban Bind
PRX ban Breeze
Sunset remains
Lotus, Split, Sunset
TH 2-0
PRX will ban Lotus and I don’t think they will pick split as a 1st pick sunset still get more chance to be picked
There's zero chance PRX winning this. Even on the interview Alecks said they have really low expectation on Masters Madrid and admits they overcook some strats and have to rework their strategy which can't be fixed in days.
So why would I believe they will win this match. they themselves said they are shit right now. gg Heretics
They proved us wrong. I'm satisfied, whatever happens after this, they already show what they can do
yup. our boys have a lot of homeworks already so i dont think they can fixed it right away. hopefully they'll comeback even stronger in split 2
if I can be selfish, I really wish to see Monyet perform well at least once, I believe he got the skills for it.
idk man, i dont have high expectation. im dejavu Master Reykjavík 2021, sentinel looks as strong as ever in 2021, korean team has the upper hand, paper rex will book plane tickets early.
It would be a surprise if they could even get to 2nd place. Their split comp needs a change, and frankly, I don't think they have time.
2nd place curse is when a team gets 2nd place at an international even and then gets grouped at the next one
Prx looking shaky, something wasn't showing up after first sunset map against EDG. If he shows up together with the rest of the team they got a chance, if not TH gonna win this
Yes, smth is very crucial to their success + d4v41. They could win if 3 of their players show up. Either F0rsaken, mindfreak, smth, d4v41. Only two cannot do it.
Is there a world where comps are not so baked in and solidified? Can PRX recover vs a hot TH? Honestly, If they can shift back to what made them W key gaming they can easily do it. They are missing one player and have Something, I have to believe they can show more. But I would not be surprised if TH take it. Very hard to call....
PRX 2-1
honestly PRX is gonna lose but I think the problem is not on any of the players but more on alecks and coaching team.
They are crazy good in mechanics and game sense, they have basic teamwork, and they have experience.
The thing holding them back are their strats and team comps which are troll. I get that they're trying to pull something unique and it might work for the first time against some pro teams, but it's hardly ever gonna work against serious teams who have studied their tapes and counter strat properly.
They are still experimenting sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't it always has been like this they go through different comps untill they get one they like look at their sunset for example it looks great
I always wonders why Alecks does not have assistant coach. Every other team got one and they don't? what's the reasoning?
Yeah, I was wrong about that. Still felt like a bit of an unnecessary risk, their Split looked a lot more solid. But then again, I guess they had less conifdence in the Split because of the role change so it makes sense.
But also, if Monyet doesn't win the 1v2 with the Sheriff, this series could easily be a 2-0. It was a very close map.
I'll stand by my point that there would have been better picks for PRX with less risk attached.
Sunset??? PRX wants to lose i guess, they have no answer to miniboo neon
If monyet keeps up with this perfomance PRX has a real chance at the title no doubt, they look great
if prx management read thiS
DONT PUT MONYET ON RAZE AGAIN.
Just play other role, he def can do better
monyet awareness need an improvement. He got caught off guard while lazy peeking like two times. 0 expectation enemy could be there
what did u expect from a league with no VP and Spirit but with shit'vi, turk orgs and koi?
miniboo by far one of the most rising talents dude has everything but good teammates
Monyet is the tier 3 player in Masters wtf. Trying to knife while you could kill a player?! Wtf PRX?
bro every player starting from gold may be spam the tree when he opens door and this fraud didnt 😂 idg why they think hes good on raze, you saw this ult last round? guys rocketing his teammtes asses
LOL Monyet's last season. I think we wont ever be seeing him again. KEKW
Its confirmed that Monyet is match-fixing. Using ulti on an open spot and do not cancel it after an enemy sees him + trying to knife people in Masters...
I feel so bad for monyet man he actually such a really nice guy, and he looks so sad when he loses, he's not even as bad as everyone makes him out to be. I really just think PRX isn't the right fit for him
Edit: MonGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAT
I think he was burdened with expectations from many people, just joined and was immediately asked to play as well as Jingg, it's frustrating maann
Monyet clutch kept PRX in this game but i guess not a single person is gonna talk about it
MONYET USE SHORTY AT BENJI IN SPLIT ROUND 12, JUST LIKE THE KNIFE IN LOTUS, SAME MISTAKE, WHAT A PLAYER, ABSOLUTE DISASTER
Patitek 1 map: 8 / 20 / 15
2 map 9 / 15 / 7
3 map paTiTek 4 / 12 / 4
WP MAN. U PLAY AWESOME
Patitek is bad
if Wo0t is at least a bit better than him, Heretics are gonna be unbelievably good
this man on patitek 21 kills in 3 maps. NICE PlAYER. ALSO HE HAVE 49 deaths. BUT THAT'S NORMAL FOR TIER 1 PRO PLAYER))))))
f0rsaken single handedly rising their teammates morale with his raze play thats actually insane. MY GOAT FR
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA i mean i was right once again, feel bad for benjy but the rest of yas a r jokes have fun on the flight home
This is like devin booker trashed talked Luka!!!
Everybody's tough, when they are up!!!
his elder bro xcc is seen by some as the best awper in cs ,and his another bro JOJO was invited by a Chinese club to serve as a youth academy,susanto blood,omg.
Can be the worst tactical pauses i've ever seen in my life. Neilzinho got comebacked by sen and prx...
Good Game, TH threw Sunset out of the window. But as i told u, get Monyet of Raze and u win the Games! WP to PRX
Wonder why they didn't they put forsaken on raze earlier. Seems like it's working out better for them
Bro I swear every time someone on Heretics starts yelling at the other team they start to lose focus. Happened with benjy on the SEN match, and then obviously during this game there was a lot of shooting bodies but the TH coach yelling at mindfreak at the end of map 2 was crazy.
This means nothing of course but it's interesting to see happen lol
https://twitter.com/brughklol/status/1769514402561097896
edit: neilzinho apologized https://twitter.com/neilzinho/status/1769475200238727438
and also mindfreak said for everyone to chill out https://twitter.com/aaronleonhart4/status/1769478555392438540
All this is to say, he was most definitely shouting at mindfreak
f0rsaken is feeling it tonight bro. he is unstoppable alongside something in third map. monyet shows improvement but still far from good, but better than his kickoff performance. and kudos to the most consistent player davai. Aaron's watch is pretty much expensive i know, stop flexing it bro.
Holy fuck benjy has shown so much improvement in like half a year, but f0rsakeN can just slap you in the face reminding you who he is
Entertaining as hell split
Thank god forsaken can actually play raze, Monyet probably doesnt feel pretty comfortable playing raze like how jinggg was, him switching to omen/sentinel could work well for them
very hard shoe to fit imo hes better off on whatever forsaken was playing and forsaken just perm jett raze even yoru
Yea Monyet doesnt really play aggressively and it shows, anchoring/controller role would be a lot better for him cuz he definitely has the aim and he clutched many important rounds
very entertaining map but actually Heretics really got totally shit on.
Ggs to them, lots of talent on that team.
Glad to see PRX showing the experience diff matters at these tournaments.
When home teams crash out early does it usually mean the viewership declines by a lot? I like PRX but also a part of me wanted TH to win for the crowd and general hype to continue...
I've only seen it effect events in brazil like did you see even though it was against th there was a lot of prx signs
most interesting thing about this match is that only 1 PRX player (mindfreak) did not play atleast 2 different roles during the series while only 1 TH player played 2 different roles (paTiTek)
Just goes to show how different their styles of Valorant truly are
Monyet on smokes and they suddenly on top again...
instructions pretty clear here
can't wait to see wo0t on TH
it's their first lan experience and they're playing with a sub
stop your pretentious shit, be humble
Heretics problem is patitek, if woot playing i'm sure its gonna be a tough game especially for the map 3
i saw f0rsaken before Madrid playing a lot of Raze in rank and he was top fragging. It still surprised me that he dominated with Raze on Split in a pro match.
Forsaken on raze is the way he played insane, monyet thrives on controller
after this match its official, F0rsakeN might be the best player to grace this game, guy can play any agent better than the best.
Never knew PRX fans to be this toxic. I'm glad they haven't won any masters or champions.
What do you expect in competitive games? you expect PRX fans to be Chipi chipi, chapa chapa
Dubidubi, dabadaba
Mágico mi dubidubi boom, boom, boom, boom
Chipi chipi, chapa chapa
Dubidubi, dabadaba
Mágico mi dubidubi boom
are you real? it‘s a matter of incessant corniness (and the other comment under yours is a great example)
Sadge. TH is actually rreally good... I'd love to see more of them. MiniBoo, benjy and RieNs are fun to watch and def. have a greta future ahead of them.
GG to PRX, though. Always great to watch them as well.
accurately predicted the outcome of this game, ez. What I find most funny is how crazy the recency bias in this community is. TH had a good kick off split and suddenly they are extremely hyped. Against a team who had a rough split but had made 2 final appearances lol you don’t make this up. Never trust VLR or Reddit! Armchair generals don’t know the game.
Honestly it was close but just scroll up this thread and it’s comedy how sure y’all were they were gonna get 2-0’d. SMH.
Man, f0rsaken is the GOAT. Only Less even gets near his level. Firepower-wise, maybe Less has a slight edge. (debatable) But what's crazy is f0rsaken can frag on any agent. It's a shame the Pacific League doesn't get much attention here and f0rsaken is going to be overlooked after this Masters until the next big international. And you know Plat Chat will leave him off their next top 10 as well. Also Mimi seriously needs to chill with the PRX hate.
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