NRG > LEV | VLR.gg

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Asuna_Yuuki

Demon1 > Aspas
Victor > Tex
Ethan > kiNgg
Marved > Mazino
Crashies > nzr

EZZZZ

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michaelisupset

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you are becoming the NA version of yesiirskii

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Asuna_Yuuki

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I dont post delusional takes though

These are objective facts

If I was comparing NRG with FNATIC I would definitely favor FNATIC in a lot of matchups

NRG are role for role, better than LEV

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role for role Aspas is objectively better than Demon1.

Demon1 is only able to play jett and flex onto smokes.

Aspas is the perfect Duelist who excels at Jett, Raze, and Neon without needing any other player like Victor to flex in order to make up for his lack of an agent pool.

Having your players be able to focus soley on their roles rather than go through the entire season essentially having to practice two roles is a lot more effective for team structure. you can obviously make it work, but it's still an issue that you don't face with flexible duelists

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"crashies is more consistent than c0m, so I would prefer crashies" - this delusional kid said that. and now he is not taking consistency in consideration, saying demon1 better than aspas. he just need to put some logic behind his own take. he has no consistency in his own take.
this guy is the most delusional fan in whole vlr. others post baits/memes/hates about other region or teams. this guy actually believes his own delusional take.

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overall aspas is better in the context of building a team but victor+demon1 is good coverage for all duelist agents

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The_Cleg

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Becoming? I've been seeing this guy and a couple of others (like alecksdesk, moatz etc) being baiters for NA for a long long time.

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OkOkay

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you want a cookie lil buddy? If not, hush up and accept the dominance of NORTH AMERICA

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The_Cleg

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This guy self reported himself ig. Here's another one

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Bro how am I baiter

Everything I say is serious and I actually and facts and logic to back it up

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babysasuke

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moatz is actually a diehard EMEA fan from Uzbekistan

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The_Cleg

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you should know

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babysasuke

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He's from Uzbekistan and his favorite team is M3C

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laeDLaer

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i am from nigeria and my favourite team is SEN 🤡

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0/8

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Asuna_Yuuki

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?
Just facts

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charleshad

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true except aspas

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p0tsuz

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🤡

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Asuna_Yuuki

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?
What did I say that was wrong

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Steelz

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demon1 > aspas and ethan > kingg would be criminal

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Demon1 proved that he is the undisputed best player in the world at champs

Nobody was even close to him

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Steelz

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demon is just a better aimer, not a better duelist
demon1? not good with raze

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Ok aspas plays agents demon1 doesn’t play but demon1 also plays agents aspas doesn’t play

Aspas? not good with astra

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Steelz

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well, how did you compare player x player for their roles so aspas>demon1 cause he is a better duelist!

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Nonononono

Demon1 > Aspas because Demon1 is better than Aspas at the agents they both play!

You can’t say Aspas > Demon1 just because Aspas plays an agent Demon1 doesn’t play.

In that case, Mwzera and Zekken > Demon1 because they both play raze! Cmon, we all know this isn’t true

Oh and also Runner > Demon1!

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Steelz

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i dont think so but ok

#25

ionlyHave1Zuni

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I have seen better baits from cryozanderderrekenjoyer do better man

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Steelz

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i think he caught me like a fish
like a bagre

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"crashies is more consistent than c0m, so I would prefer crashies" - this delusional kid said that. and now he is not taking consistency in consideration, saying demon1 better than aspas. he just need to put some logic behind his own take. he has no consistency in his own take.
this guy is the most delusional fan in whole vlr. others post baits/memes/hates about other region or teams. this guy actually believes his own delusional take.

continue thread →

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Senfanboy

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but tbh a duelist should be able to play multiple agents effectively. If Demon1 cannot play raze, then he cannot be as good of a duelist as aspas

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gfnchaoz

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He is the undisputed best player but not the undisputed best duelist at champs imo

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Ethan is better then kinggg, aspas is better then demon1 but not by a lot...

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Nachtel

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Aspas > Demon1 otherwise true

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LouBag

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Aspas >= Demon1

Kingg as a player < Ethan
Kingg as an IGL > Ethan

Kingg = Ethan

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Demon1 > Aspas no debate.

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Sao fans tend to be retarded

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Ngl I don’t like SAO anymore

What did I say that was wrong in this thread?

NRG are way better role for role

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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For baiting role for role is too obvious you gotta use eye test 🙄🙄

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"crashies is more consistent than c0m, so I would prefer crashies" - this delusional kid said that. and now he is not taking consistency in consideration, saying demon1 better than aspas. he just need to put some logic behind his own take. he has no consistency in his own take.
this guy is the most delusional fan in whole vlr. others post baits/memes/hates about other region or teams. this guy actually believes his own delusional take.

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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wrong reply

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No IGL
next.

NRG LOST 2-0 TO LEV WITH TRASHOLILLA
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
https://www.vlr.gg/183778/leviat-n-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w1

so that means

Tacolilla >> Ardiis ?? 😱😱😱
Shyy >> Victor ?? 😱😱😱😱
Nzr >> Crashies ?? 😱😱😱😱
Mazino >> S0m ?!?!? 😱
Kingg >>> Fns ???!?!? (IGL diff 🤣)

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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Shardiis on raze 😂😂😂😂😍😍😂😂😂😂

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hunkkz

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Ardiis raze crashies kj fns skye victor viper

No way you are reading into this game bro

NRG were just experimenting and trying new things

If they played later in the season, LEV would’ve been destroyed

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Riot_Valve_the_GOD_games

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destroyed like billybilly?

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hunkkz

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LMAOOOOOOOO

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NRG > everyone

Just think about it

Victor = Best flex in the world
Crashies = Best scan initiator in the world
Ethan = Best flash initiator in the world
Demon1 = Best duelist in the world
Marved = 2nd best controller in the world (1st is retired)

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donkkomong

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Who's retired? Mako?
Dont say Zombs cuz hes trash, funny guy though.

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south_america_best_region

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read his name

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 NRG delulu strikes again

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Asuna_Yuuki

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What did I say that was wrong

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pessi_41

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"crashies is more consistent than c0m, so I would prefer crashies" - this delusional kid said that. and now he is not taking consistency in consideration, saying demon1 better than aspas. he just need to put some logic behind his own take. he has no consistency in his own take.
this guy is the most delusional fan in whole vlr. others post baits/memes/hates about other region or teams. this guy actually believes his own delusional take.

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The difference is that c0m has been in the tier 1 scene for much longer and has had many more chances to prove himself but only found success this year

Demon1 on the other hand has only ever been insane ever since he joined tier 1

Think about it in terms of percentages

Demon1 has been insane in 100% of the VCT events he has played

C0m has only been insane in around 40% of the VCT events he has played

My takes aren’t delusional I have logic to back them up

It is just facts that NRG is clearly the best team in Americas on paper

The comparisons would be much less skewed if I compared them with a team like FNATIC

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pessi_41

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lmao. u are ur delusional take. go on. brain dead will stay always brain damaged. 🥱

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Bro ita not delusion

I have solid analysis and logic to back up my claims

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pessi_41

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nobody acknowledge ur logics and claims. that's much baseless ur logics are. 🥱

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SmartPerson

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na yesiirskii LMAO

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bro is delulu

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Disagreeing with this comparison is delulu ngl

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bruddah

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aspas is better than demon1. dont care about the rest.

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koromast

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oh nrg is better? who plays the viper tell me

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Marved mainly

You underestimate the flexibility of this nrg roster

They have 3 players who can play pretty much everything

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koromast

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if its sunset and demon1 has to play jett who plays controller then if marved is on viper or if you put demon1 on controller then who plays op?

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Raze is meta on sunset. Jett is literally unplayable on sunset

Give me another example of a map where you are unsure about their roles and I’ll answer

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even if its unplayable there is still the issue of who tf plays cypher if victor plays raze and ethan skye because no way crashies plays kj or anthing like that, i mean he has played it but not on a great shape.

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Why can’t crashies play kj?

He has great individual results on it
At the start of VALORANT, crashies was THE GOAT sentinel player

https://www.vlr.gg/167360/nrg-esports-vs-loud-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-alpha-sf/?game=113077&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/183795/nrg-esports-vs-cloud9-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w4/?game=118981&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/167360/nrg-esports-vs-loud-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-alpha-sf/?game=113077&tab=overview

Crashies actually top fragged majority of his game on kj as well

Ardiis was the source of old NRG’a role issues, crashies and victor were good on everyone

NRG aren’t gonna have any role issues this year

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Except for IGL thats a big issue

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Crashies was the best Cypher in the world before Nats back then, little do you know.. and KRU is just no hope lol I'm sorry.

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Only part that’s even debatable is aspas and demon1 (demon1 still clears)

EZ for NRG

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0fcuZ

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I completely agreed 👍💯

5 VCT champions > 1 VCT champion

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Orangepanda

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Yessirski if he eats too much burger

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Conut

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Demon1 < Aspas
Victor < Tex
Ethan > kiNgg
Marved > Mazino
Crashies > nzr

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Tex is overrated EU bot 😂🤣

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Conut

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Tex is underrated and has a lot of potential

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That's your opinion. Look at the stats and impacts. Guard carried him, do you not think why they would have replace him with leaf?

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Conut

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I think he got the offer from LEV and took it over G2

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kiNgg is better than Ethan

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Zeta fan's delusion

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danii1

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How is that a Zeta's fan delusion. kiNgg is an insane fragging IGL. He's just better

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Braindead opinion

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Flair

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Z0ta

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N0t Really G00d fan

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cocktor and shitties = mid af

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I agreed 👍

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???????

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least delusional As0na Yuuki take

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Asuna_Yuuki

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This is anything but delusional

Tell mw which of these comparisons are wrong

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everyone except Victor > Tex

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Again idk why ppl call u delusional
Demon1 and Aspas are pretty evenly matched and can easily go both ways
F00d>tex self explanatory
Ethan> King K0ng as of rn (even though K0ng has his moments, Ethan is better support util usage wise)
Washed Jimmy < Mazino
Overrated gum chewer < nzr (nzr is probably the 2nd best player on that team)

I think I'll still give the edge to NRG and I say this as the biggest NRG victor and pujan hater

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Asuna_Yuuki

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What the heck man

In what world is Jimmy worse than Mazino and Crashies worse than nzr

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bigskrossifan

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Jimmy is washed hes just not the jimmy that u know before as much as u want him to be hes not anymore
crashies has just been underwhelming while nzr has been consistently the 2nd best player in lev for a while

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crashies was bad jn champs but so was the rest of NRG

I wouldn’t look too much into it

Crashies was good in Tokyo and insane in Americas (he finished as the 6th highest rated player) He clears nzr

Jimmy was never given a fair chance on Sen

They just threw him in an ld forced him onto igl

Remember 2022. Jimmy will be back on top under chet and with crashies and vic

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again only time will tell lol lets wait till the season starts before doing all these debates its just pointless to do before that yes they look good on paper but so did 2022 sen

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name checks out

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.

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LMAO I WAS ABOUT TO BUMP THIS

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AlexSMTxx

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😂😂😂

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kalayav_n

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😂 let these braindead fans keep sucking dick for fns and his shit team

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inlucid

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there must be atleast 50 threadsa about nrg like this one that you can find from asuna

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i have a lot of them

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AlexSMTxx

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knowing him, you can prob find a worse one saying how NRG is gonna win everything this year or some shit like that lol. This is just the first one I found lmao

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HenBabyH

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we should keep bumping this till Shanghai is over

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AlexSMTxx

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Im down

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TheAceGamer30

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This shit is too funny

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Average_NA_fan

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asuna_cuucki is so braindead

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13-4
13-4 👍

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man good thing ppl dont bump my old posts

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TheAceGamer30

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what did you say lmao 💀

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😀

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If you mess with Lev you mess with me 🤬🤬🤬

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Saying Demon1 is better than aspas based purely on his Champions and Tokyo form and not taking into account that aspas has been at the top of the game for 2, going on 3 years while also saying crashies is better than c0m is fucking braindead. You can't use consistency to put one player above another while also ignoring the consistency of another player

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Incredible how every trembo copy on this forum that starts to schizophrenically glaze a team ends up in the team HARD falling off

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🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿

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This may become true during Split 2. Time will tell.