Demon1 > Aspas
Victor > Tex
Ethan > kiNgg
Marved > Mazino
Crashies > nzr
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michaelisupset [#2]you are becoming the NA version of yesiirskii
I dont post delusional takes though
These are objective facts
If I was comparing NRG with FNATIC I would definitely favor FNATIC in a lot of matchups
NRG are role for role, better than LEV
Asuna_Yuuki [#4]I dont post delusional takes though
These are objective facts
If I was comparing NRG with FNATIC I would definitely favor FNATIC in a lot of matchups
NRG are role for role, better than LEV
role for role Aspas is objectively better than Demon1.
Demon1 is only able to play jett and flex onto smokes.
Aspas is the perfect Duelist who excels at Jett, Raze, and Neon without needing any other player like Victor to flex in order to make up for his lack of an agent pool.
Having your players be able to focus soley on their roles rather than go through the entire season essentially having to practice two roles is a lot more effective for team structure. you can obviously make it work, but it's still an issue that you don't face with flexible duelists
Steelz [#9]demon1 > aspas and ethan > kingg would be criminal
Demon1 proved that he is the undisputed best player in the world at champs
Nobody was even close to him
Steelz [#9]demon1 > aspas and ethan > kingg would be criminal
Ethan is better then kinggg, aspas is better then demon1 but not by a lot...
ionlyHave1Zuni [#16]Sao fans tend to be retarded
Ngl I don’t like SAO anymore
What did I say that was wrong in this thread?
NRG are way better role for role
Asuna_Yuuki [#17]Ngl I don’t like SAO anymore
What did I say that was wrong in this thread?
NRG are way better role for role
For baiting role for role is too obvious you gotta use eye test 🙄🙄
Asuna_Yuuki [#13]Demon1 proved that he is the undisputed best player in the world at champs
Nobody was even close to him
demon is just a better aimer, not a better duelist
demon1? not good with raze
Steelz [#20]demon is just a better aimer, not a better duelist
demon1? not good with raze
Ok aspas plays agents demon1 doesn’t play but demon1 also plays agents aspas doesn’t play
Aspas? not good with astra
Asuna_Yuuki [#21]Ok aspas plays agents demon1 doesn’t play but demon1 also plays agents aspas doesn’t play
Aspas? not good with astra
well, how did you compare player x player for their roles so aspas>demon1 cause he is a better duelist!
Steelz [#22]well, how did you compare player x player for their roles so aspas>demon1 cause he is a better duelist!
Nonononono
Demon1 > Aspas because Demon1 is better than Aspas at the agents they both play!
You can’t say Aspas > Demon1 just because Aspas plays an agent Demon1 doesn’t play.
In that case, Mwzera and Zekken > Demon1 because they both play raze! Cmon, we all know this isn’t true
Oh and also Runner > Demon1!
Asuna_Yuuki [#23]Nonononono
Demon1 > Aspas because Demon1 is better than Aspas at the agents they both play!
You can’t say Aspas > Demon1 just because Aspas plays an agent Demon1 doesn’t play.
In that case, Mwzera and Zekken > Demon1 because they both play raze! Cmon, we all know this isn’t true
Oh and also Runner > Demon1!
i dont think so but ok
Steelz [#24]i dont think so but ok
I have seen better baits from cryozanderderrekenjoyer do better man
ionlyHave1Zuni [#25]I have seen better baits from cryozanderderrekenjoyer do better man
i think he caught me like a fish
like a bagre
No IGL
next.
NRG LOST 2-0 TO LEV WITH TRASHOLILLA
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https://www.vlr.gg/183778/leviat-n-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w1
so that means
Tacolilla >> Ardiis ?? 😱😱😱
Shyy >> Victor ?? 😱😱😱😱
Nzr >> Crashies ?? 😱😱😱😱
Mazino >> S0m ?!?!? 😱
Kingg >>> Fns ???!?!? (IGL diff 🤣)
hunkkz [#27]No IGL
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NRG LOST 2-0 TO LEV WITH TRASHOLILLA
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https://www.vlr.gg/183778/leviat-n-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w1so that means
Tacolilla >> Ardiis ?? 😱😱😱
Shyy >> Victor ?? 😱😱😱😱
Nzr >> Crashies ?? 😱😱😱😱
Mazino >> S0m ?!?!? 😱
Kingg >>> Fns ???!?!? (IGL diff 🤣)
Shardiis on raze 😂😂😂😂😍😍😂😂😂😂
hunkkz [#27]No IGL
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NRG LOST 2-0 TO LEV WITH TRASHOLILLA
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https://www.vlr.gg/183778/leviat-n-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w1so that means
Tacolilla >> Ardiis ?? 😱😱😱
Shyy >> Victor ?? 😱😱😱😱
Nzr >> Crashies ?? 😱😱😱😱
Mazino >> S0m ?!?!? 😱
Kingg >>> Fns ???!?!? (IGL diff 🤣)
Ardiis raze crashies kj fns skye victor viper
No way you are reading into this game bro
NRG were just experimenting and trying new things
If they played later in the season, LEV would’ve been destroyed
Nachtel [#11]role for role Aspas is objectively better than Demon1.
Demon1 is only able to play jett and flex onto smokes.
Aspas is the perfect Duelist who excels at Jett, Raze, and Neon without needing any other player like Victor to flex in order to make up for his lack of an agent pool.
Having your players be able to focus soley on their roles rather than go through the entire season essentially having to practice two roles is a lot more effective for team structure. you can obviously make it work, but it's still an issue that you don't face with flexible duelists
"crashies is more consistent than c0m, so I would prefer crashies" - this delusional kid said that. and now he is not taking consistency in consideration, saying demon1 better than aspas. he just need to put some logic behind his own take. he has no consistency in his own take.
this guy is the most delusional fan in whole vlr. others post baits/memes/hates about other region or teams. this guy actually believes his own delusional take.
Steelz [#26]i think he caught me like a fish
like a bagre
"crashies is more consistent than c0m, so I would prefer crashies" - this delusional kid said that. and now he is not taking consistency in consideration, saying demon1 better than aspas. he just need to put some logic behind his own take. he has no consistency in his own take.
this guy is the most delusional fan in whole vlr. others post baits/memes/hates about other region or teams. this guy actually believes his own delusional take.
ionlyHave1Zuni [#19]For baiting role for role is too obvious you gotta use eye test 🙄🙄
"crashies is more consistent than c0m, so I would prefer crashies" - this delusional kid said that. and now he is not taking consistency in consideration, saying demon1 better than aspas. he just need to put some logic behind his own take. he has no consistency in his own take.
this guy is the most delusional fan in whole vlr. others post baits/memes/hates about other region or teams. this guy actually believes his own delusional take.
south_america_best_region [#32]🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 NRG delulu strikes again
"crashies is more consistent than c0m, so I would prefer crashies" - this delusional kid said that. and now he is not taking consistency in consideration, saying demon1 better than aspas. he just need to put some logic behind his own take. he has no consistency in his own take.
this guy is the most delusional fan in whole vlr. others post baits/memes/hates about other region or teams. this guy actually believes his own delusional take.
pessi_41 [#38]"crashies is more consistent than c0m, so I would prefer crashies" - this delusional kid said that. and now he is not taking consistency in consideration, saying demon1 better than aspas. he just need to put some logic behind his own take. he has no consistency in his own take.
this guy is the most delusional fan in whole vlr. others post baits/memes/hates about other region or teams. this guy actually believes his own delusional take.
The difference is that c0m has been in the tier 1 scene for much longer and has had many more chances to prove himself but only found success this year
Demon1 on the other hand has only ever been insane ever since he joined tier 1
Think about it in terms of percentages
Demon1 has been insane in 100% of the VCT events he has played
C0m has only been insane in around 40% of the VCT events he has played
My takes aren’t delusional I have logic to back them up
It is just facts that NRG is clearly the best team in Americas on paper
The comparisons would be much less skewed if I compared them with a team like FNATIC
Asuna_Yuuki [#31]Ardiis raze crashies kj fns skye victor viper
No way you are reading into this game bro
NRG were just experimenting and trying new things
If they played later in the season, LEV would’ve been destroyed
destroyed like billybilly?
michaelisupset [#2]you are becoming the NA version of yesiirskii
Becoming? I've been seeing this guy and a couple of others (like alecksdesk, moatz etc) being baiters for NA for a long long time.
The_Cleg [#43]Becoming? I've been seeing this guy and a couple of others (like alecksdesk, moatz etc) being baiters for NA for a long long time.
you want a cookie lil buddy? If not, hush up and accept the dominance of NORTH AMERICA
OkOkay [#45]you want a cookie lil buddy? If not, hush up and accept the dominance of NORTH AMERICA
This guy self reported himself ig. Here's another one
pessi_41 [#35]"crashies is more consistent than c0m, so I would prefer crashies" - this delusional kid said that. and now he is not taking consistency in consideration, saying demon1 better than aspas. he just need to put some logic behind his own take. he has no consistency in his own take.
this guy is the most delusional fan in whole vlr. others post baits/memes/hates about other region or teams. this guy actually believes his own delusional take.
Bro why are u spamming this everywhere 😭
The_Cleg [#43]Becoming? I've been seeing this guy and a couple of others (like alecksdesk, moatz etc) being baiters for NA for a long long time.
Bro how am I baiter
Everything I say is serious and I actually and facts and logic to back it up
Simp4S0m [#30]NRG > everyone
Just think about it
Victor = Best flex in the world
Crashies = Best scan initiator in the world
Ethan = Best flash initiator in the world
Demon1 = Best duelist in the world
Marved = 2nd best controller in the world (1st is retired)
Who's retired? Mako?
Dont say Zombs cuz hes trash, funny guy though.
koromast [#52]oh nrg is better? who plays the viper tell me
Marved mainly
You underestimate the flexibility of this nrg roster
They have 3 players who can play pretty much everything
Asuna_Yuuki [#53]Marved mainly
You underestimate the flexibility of this nrg roster
They have 3 players who can play pretty much everything
if its sunset and demon1 has to play jett who plays controller then if marved is on viper or if you put demon1 on controller then who plays op?
koromast [#54]if its sunset and demon1 has to play jett who plays controller then if marved is on viper or if you put demon1 on controller then who plays op?
Raze is meta on sunset. Jett is literally unplayable on sunset
Give me another example of a map where you are unsure about their roles and I’ll answer
Asuna_Yuuki [#55]Raze is meta on sunset. Jett is literally unplayable on sunset
Give me another example of a map where you are unsure about their roles and I’ll answer
even if its unplayable there is still the issue of who tf plays cypher if victor plays raze and ethan skye because no way crashies plays kj or anthing like that, i mean he has played it but not on a great shape.
Asuna_Yuuki [#13]Demon1 proved that he is the undisputed best player in the world at champs
Nobody was even close to him
He is the undisputed best player but not the undisputed best duelist at champs imo
koromast [#57]even if its unplayable there is still the issue of who tf plays cypher if victor plays raze and ethan skye because no way crashies plays kj or anthing like that, i mean he has played it but not on a great shape.
Why can’t crashies play kj?
He has great individual results on it
At the start of VALORANT, crashies was THE GOAT sentinel player
https://www.vlr.gg/167360/nrg-esports-vs-loud-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-alpha-sf/?game=113077&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/183795/nrg-esports-vs-cloud9-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w4/?game=118981&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/167360/nrg-esports-vs-loud-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-alpha-sf/?game=113077&tab=overview
Crashies actually top fragged majority of his game on kj as well
Ardiis was the source of old NRG’a role issues, crashies and victor were good on everyone
NRG aren’t gonna have any role issues this year
Asuna_Yuuki [#39]The difference is that c0m has been in the tier 1 scene for much longer and has had many more chances to prove himself but only found success this year
Demon1 on the other hand has only ever been insane ever since he joined tier 1
Think about it in terms of percentages
Demon1 has been insane in 100% of the VCT events he has played
C0m has only been insane in around 40% of the VCT events he has played
My takes aren’t delusional I have logic to back them up
It is just facts that NRG is clearly the best team in Americas on paper
The comparisons would be much less skewed if I compared them with a team like FNATIC
lmao. u are ur delusional take. go on. brain dead will stay always brain damaged. 🥱
koromast [#57]even if its unplayable there is still the issue of who tf plays cypher if victor plays raze and ethan skye because no way crashies plays kj or anthing like that, i mean he has played it but not on a great shape.
Crashies was the best Cypher in the world before Nats back then, little do you know.. and KRU is just no hope lol I'm sorry.
Asuna_Yuuki [#60]Why can’t crashies play kj?
He has great individual results on it
At the start of VALORANT, crashies was THE GOAT sentinel playerhttps://www.vlr.gg/167360/nrg-esports-vs-loud-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-alpha-sf/?game=113077&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/183795/nrg-esports-vs-cloud9-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w4/?game=118981&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/167360/nrg-esports-vs-loud-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-alpha-sf/?game=113077&tab=overviewCrashies actually top fragged majority of his game on kj as well
Ardiis was the source of old NRG’a role issues, crashies and victor were good on everyone
NRG aren’t gonna have any role issues this year
Except for IGL thats a big issue
pessi_41 [#35]"crashies is more consistent than c0m, so I would prefer crashies" - this delusional kid said that. and now he is not taking consistency in consideration, saying demon1 better than aspas. he just need to put some logic behind his own take. he has no consistency in his own take.
this guy is the most delusional fan in whole vlr. others post baits/memes/hates about other region or teams. this guy actually believes his own delusional take.
bro tbh the biggest delusional people on vlr are SEN fans. ya'll aint ever gonna win another masters/champions with TenZ lmfao. he consistently gets sick during VCT too so good luck with that.
Asuna_Yuuki [#23]Nonononono
Demon1 > Aspas because Demon1 is better than Aspas at the agents they both play!
You can’t say Aspas > Demon1 just because Aspas plays an agent Demon1 doesn’t play.
In that case, Mwzera and Zekken > Demon1 because they both play raze! Cmon, we all know this isn’t true
Oh and also Runner > Demon1!
but tbh a duelist should be able to play multiple agents effectively. If Demon1 cannot play raze, then he cannot be as good of a duelist as aspas
pessi_41 [#61]lmao. u are ur delusional take. go on. brain dead will stay always brain damaged. 🥱
Bro ita not delusion
I have solid analysis and logic to back up my claims
Asuna_Yuuki [#68]Bro ita not delusion
I have solid analysis and logic to back up my claims
nobody acknowledge ur logics and claims. that's much baseless ur logics are. 🥱
donkkomong [#66]bro tbh the biggest delusional people on vlr are SEN fans. ya'll aint ever gonna win another masters/champions with TenZ lmfao. he consistently gets sick during VCT too so good luck with that.
yes what did ur crashies won? how many champs. at least we got 2 champs winner. go dick ride victor. u will not win shit with that chicken
Conut [#65]Demon1 < Aspas
Victor < Tex
Ethan > kiNgg
Marved > Mazino
Crashies > nzr
Tex is overrated EU bot 😂🤣
0fcuZ [#72]Zeta fan's delusion
How is that a Zeta's fan delusion. kiNgg is an insane fragging IGL. He's just better
danii1 [#74]How is that a Zeta's fan delusion. kiNgg is an insane fragging IGL. He's just better
Braindead opinion
Conut [#78]Tex is underrated and has a lot of potential
That's your opinion. Look at the stats and impacts. Guard carried him, do you not think why they would have replace him with leaf?
0fcuZ [#79]That's your opinion. Look at the stats and impacts. Guard carried him, do you not think why they would have replace him with leaf?
I think he got the offer from LEV and took it over G2
pessi_41 [#70]yes what did ur crashies won? how many champs. at least we got 2 champs winner. go dick ride victor. u will not win shit with that chicken
We have 2 champs winners + 3 masters winners
SEN have 1 champs winner and 1 masters winner in their starting roster
Bro stop baiting
NRG are clearly superior to SEN
Asuna_Yuuki [#85]We have 2 champs winners + 3 masters winners
SEN have 1 champs winner and 1 masters winner in their starting roster
Bro stop baiting
NRG are clearly superior to SEN
2 champs winner + 2 bilibili loser + 1 fraud igl
get ur head straight. u r surely some kid who knows no logic. dont care if delusional_yuki says something 🥱
hellfire [#87]least delusional As0na Yuuki take
This is anything but delusional
Tell mw which of these comparisons are wrong
pessi_41 [#86]2 champs winner + 2 bilibili loser + 1 fraud igl
get ur head straight. u r surely some kid who knows no logic. dont care if delusional_yuki says something 🥱
Ok and SEN have 4 people who couldn’t even qualify to an international LAN last year + an igl who couldn’t even win tier 2
Losing to Bilibilli is much better than losing to C9 and LEV in LCQ and not even qualifying to LAN
Think for a moment and realize that NRG players are superior in every aspect of the game
Asuna_Yuuki [#89]Ok and SEN have 4 people who couldn’t even qualify to an international LAN last year + an igl who couldn’t even win tier 2
Losing to Bilibilli is much better than losing to C9 and LEV in LCQ and not even qualifying to LAN
Think for a moment and realize that NRG players are superior in every aspect of the game
Losing to Bilibilli is much better than losing to C9 and LEV in LCQ and not even qualifying to LAN
because he is delusional. 🗿 god first get this man a head, I will ask for a brain afterwards
pessi_41 [#90]Losing to Bilibilli is much better than losing to C9 and LEV in LCQ and not even qualifying to LAN
because he is delusional. 🗿 god first get this man a head, I will ask for a brain afterwards
Nah bro you are delusional for thinking that losing at an international LAN is worse than losing regionally.
I actually can’t believe that you believe this
No matter what, losing regionally is always worse than losing internationally
I am also insanely smart btw bro
Asuna_Yuuki [#91]Nah bro you are delusional for thinking that losing at an international LAN is worse than losing regionally.
I actually can’t believe that you believe this
No matter what, losing regionally is always worse than losing internationally
I am also insanely smart btw bro
u r insanely dumb. may be some dumb 8yr kid. and I dont have time for delusional kid. not here to teach who don't have head 👋
Again idk why ppl call u delusional
Demon1 and Aspas are pretty evenly matched and can easily go both ways
F00d>tex self explanatory
Ethan> King K0ng as of rn (even though K0ng has his moments, Ethan is better support util usage wise)
Washed Jimmy < Mazino
Overrated gum chewer < nzr (nzr is probably the 2nd best player on that team)
I think I'll still give the edge to NRG and I say this as the biggest NRG victor and pujan hater
bigskrossifan [#93]Again idk why ppl call u delusional
Demon1 and Aspas are pretty evenly matched and can easily go both ways
F00d>tex self explanatory
Ethan> King K0ng as of rn (even though K0ng has his moments, Ethan is better support util usage wise)
Washed Jimmy < Mazino
Overrated gum chewer < nzr (nzr is probably the 2nd best player on that team)I think I'll still give the edge to NRG and I say this as the biggest NRG victor and pujan hater
What the heck man
In what world is Jimmy worse than Mazino and Crashies worse than nzr
Nachtel [#11]role for role Aspas is objectively better than Demon1.
Demon1 is only able to play jett and flex onto smokes.
Aspas is the perfect Duelist who excels at Jett, Raze, and Neon without needing any other player like Victor to flex in order to make up for his lack of an agent pool.
Having your players be able to focus soley on their roles rather than go through the entire season essentially having to practice two roles is a lot more effective for team structure. you can obviously make it work, but it's still an issue that you don't face with flexible duelists
overall aspas is better in the context of building a team but victor+demon1 is good coverage for all duelist agents
Asuna_Yuuki [#94]What the heck man
In what world is Jimmy worse than Mazino and Crashies worse than nzr
Jimmy is washed hes just not the jimmy that u know before as much as u want him to be hes not anymore
crashies has just been underwhelming while nzr has been consistently the 2nd best player in lev for a while
bigskrossifan [#96]Jimmy is washed hes just not the jimmy that u know before as much as u want him to be hes not anymore
crashies has just been underwhelming while nzr has been consistently the 2nd best player in lev for a while
crashies was bad jn champs but so was the rest of NRG
I wouldn’t look too much into it
Crashies was good in Tokyo and insane in Americas (he finished as the 6th highest rated player) He clears nzr
Jimmy was never given a fair chance on Sen
They just threw him in an ld forced him onto igl
Remember 2022. Jimmy will be back on top under chet and with crashies and vic
The_Cleg [#43]Becoming? I've been seeing this guy and a couple of others (like alecksdesk, moatz etc) being baiters for NA for a long long time.
moatz is actually a diehard EMEA fan from Uzbekistan
Asuna_Yuuki [#97]crashies was bad jn champs but so was the rest of NRG
I wouldn’t look too much into it
Crashies was good in Tokyo and insane in Americas (he finished as the 6th highest rated player) He clears nzr
Jimmy was never given a fair chance on Sen
They just threw him in an ld forced him onto igl
Remember 2022. Jimmy will be back on top under chet and with crashies and vic
again only time will tell lol lets wait till the season starts before doing all these debates its just pointless to do before that yes they look good on paper but so did 2022 sen
AlexSMTxx [#102].
there must be atleast 50 threadsa about nrg like this one that you can find from asuna
inlucid [#105]there must be atleast 50 threadsa about nrg like this one that you can find from asuna
i have a lot of them
bigskrossifan [#93]Again idk why ppl call u delusional
Demon1 and Aspas are pretty evenly matched and can easily go both ways
F00d>tex self explanatory
Ethan> King K0ng as of rn (even though K0ng has his moments, Ethan is better support util usage wise)
Washed Jimmy < Mazino
Overrated gum chewer < nzr (nzr is probably the 2nd best player on that team)I think I'll still give the edge to NRG and I say this as the biggest NRG victor and pujan hater
name checks out
Asuna_Yuuki [#88]This is anything but delusional
Tell mw which of these comparisons are wrong
everyone except Victor > Tex
babysasuke [#101]He's from Uzbekistan and his favorite team is M3C
i am from nigeria and my favourite team is SEN 🤡
inlucid [#105]there must be atleast 50 threadsa about nrg like this one that you can find from asuna
knowing him, you can prob find a worse one saying how NRG is gonna win everything this year or some shit like that lol. This is just the first one I found lmao
Saying Demon1 is better than aspas based purely on his Champions and Tokyo form and not taking into account that aspas has been at the top of the game for 2, going on 3 years while also saying crashies is better than c0m is fucking braindead. You can't use consistency to put one player above another while also ignoring the consistency of another player
number2_cNed_fan [#117]man good thing ppl dont bump my old posts
If you mess with Lev you mess with me 🤬🤬🤬
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