No we didn't... They looked fine they just were playing against better teams that is all

They have never been the best team itw fym "consolidate"

Clearly better than t1

How are geng frauds? Lol

T1 also aren't frauds they only lost to teams clearly better than them

Totally different roles and shahz is igl as well, but I guess u r right? Lol

np g.

Bro did NOT have to cook my team this hard😭😭😭

get BARBARR in player role he is contender for top 10 duelists at the moment

Scary to think that this is one of your most intelligent posts

U r just gonna lose time. Trust me Ive been there

Actual facts but neT wasn't 5hat good either (still clear of icy tho)

The guy is just yapping. Talking about underperforming for a team who lost the best player itw and still getting top 4 in a int lan...
Leave him alone

You're cringe and no one comment on your threas. So I'll help you to minimize the cringeness of this thread.

He's playing against bleed man anybody could put up insane numbers against them atp

Yeah cuz he's very clearly not the goat. Best player on fnc though for sure

I said goat not best player tf

Throughout some parts of 22 and 23 I saw jinggg being hyped up more than forsaken and even if it wasn't like that, it was very close between the 2.

And even so, it wouldn't change anything about what I said, you can't compare prx to lev in no way at all.

Chronicle has been Hella consistent
Mako ...
TenZ as well ppl thought he wasn't good just because he played in a bad team, only in 2023 he individually underperformed but he had lots of personal issues
Saadhak
Etc

IMO u just can't consider the goat a player who has not won a trophy

FUUUUCKKKKKK

Yay drops 45 bombs in 3 maps** incoming

I thought you couldn't have informations of this kind for teams that don't exist anymore? But all of a sudden you can? Out of your hat?

Oohhhh brother

Average vlr user

Fuck my bad.

2nd* best team In the world

The point of this post instead is that there clearly is. And as you can see apart from some shouts to forsaken most people would tend to agree with me.

Ofc you don't have to agree with me but I don't see why you can't even consider having this kind of conversation, even if was "all up for contention still".

Let's not even compare forsaken supporting cast with aspas's in LEV shall we?

Forsaken for a lot of time (wrongly IMO but still was) wasn't even considered the best player in his team. And you come out here comparing prx to lev. Absolutely nonsensical

I don't understand why this thing gets brought up so many times. Even if the game does not have much history that does not mean that you can't designate who the best player until now has been.

Even in actual sports the goat refers obviously to the past. You can't control the future man. Goats change all the time and that's how it's supposed to be.

Tf you talking about forsaken...

Consistently bottling trophies maybe?

I don't wanna even hit on him cuz he's one of my fav players but come on now he does not belong in the top 2 goats convo

I didn't say it. But last year I saw many threads talking about the goat title and derke came up on top in many of them. For me last year the goat was Chronicle

Name

Maybe late top 20.

This is the amount of delusion governments should reopen asylums for. He's easily top 10 tho

He really went 1.8 rating on a 36 rounds map against the best team itw😭😭😭

Yeah

Last year there were some discussions about it and one could've argued for many players to be the goat right? Derke, Chronicle, Aspas, Mako, nAts, Yay, less etc.

But I really feel like rn the only possible answer is one. And it's not even close. What do you guys think?

We should do burger fights for usa

Tbf Derke hasn't been that good for almost a year now people aren't overreacting just towards one game

They are a bit too quirky for my likings but I understand they have heavy role issues (mainly because of cNed and qrax that are somewhat one agent players), but I don't necessarily dislike them.

At least they are trying something new and for the moment it seems to be working

Not at all. I'd rather watch gekko-kayo or a wild yoru than the mid ahh raze-breach-fade. Ew.

Impossible.

It's actually so maddening to see so much talent being wasted just because idek who decides to play an old ass comp that would only work against dinosaurs.

Fnatic, Navi and liquid actually have so much talent but none of it matters if they keep playing anti-diluvian comps...

Why can't they understand that if KC is a better team than them is just because they have a read on the meta because its definitely not about talent

Come on not by giantx😭😭😭

When you "bet" (put in the pickems) on the big underdog and they end up winning

I knew FUT got me💪💪💪

Upamecano has been trash tho fr

I believe it's in the Bernabeu so yeah quite possibly but it's the best match we can have this year

Weak ass match we will be watching City - Madrid

Because sadhaak is very possibly the best IGL in competitive valorant's history...

Thx!

Do we have any info when he will do his debut?

Always has been? In 2021 EMEA was easily the best region. After that I'd say Americas as a whole have dominated the scene though

It's their second system change tho. When they lost Sacy and pancada they did drop some spots but still were a top 4 team last year

Source: alecksdesk

Peace brother

At least I'm not the one that has to insult people online to feel better about themselves🤷‍♂️