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Opinion on AverageJonas ?

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#1
SeizVlr

What do you guys think about him?

Having played with him and flowascending I personally dislike both of them due to their high ego's and 'nice' toxicity. If not as an lineup sova I find him incredibly useful and he has played a major part in making sova easier to play.

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SigmaMale
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bro thinks he invented all of the sova lineups

#4
SeizVlr
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He has helped a lot don't you think?

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B0omsl4ng
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no one uses his cringe lineups and executes

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SeizVlr
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fair point but we still gotta credit this man's dedication.

#22
iooeaa
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQcrRh9471c

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Mjtchell
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100T almost signed him solely for lineups

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B0omsl4ng
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hes the most annoying person in the entire valorant scene
plus hes on lulquid so instant dislike
plus he cries so much

#6
SeizVlr
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Insta upvote ty for speaking the factual information

#17
Adi69LassiSeller
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"plus he's on lulquid" @Ryuji

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Ryuji
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this guy is a bot don't listen to him

#128
B0omsl4ng
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says a jamppi stan account

#145
Ryuji
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so what ? yes I follow Jamppi do you have any prblm and how free a person can be to search through another persons twitter account and go through whole timeline get some life my frnd 🤡

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B0omsl4ng
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go retweet giveaways and shit
fakr flagger

#5
bonkashi
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idk but he got pissed at me on stream when i said valorant's map design is bad in chat when fracture came out

#7
SeizVlr
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Got pissed at me and called me a 'aw' when I came in his chat asking if I could use his POV on a clip I hit against him. didn't even use it cause I felt bad

#37
sp0rtsman
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:skull:

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Delusional_SA_fan
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he's a goddamn cringe crybaby

#9
SeizVlr
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BASED vlr.gg thread everyone is right

#11
MerkFreeks
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i like him personally, dont rlly watch his streams often but he plays with other streamers i watch.

Plus I think he's helped alot with the lineup scene (this isnt me sayin he's the ONLY one so dont mistake that) but i found other good sova lineup people thru him

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Ryuji
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overall he is a nice guy

#14
SeizVlr
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no ? he acts like a **** in his ranked games has a huge ego but would get slapped up by the whole lobby without his odin's and reveals.

#19
B0omsl4ng
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he plays in lower immortal lobbies

#25
SeizVlr
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so? i dont understand the point

#33
Ryuji
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I've only seen his sometimes in some liquid valorant videos idk much abt him .

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patuj
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I don't really watch him and by no means I don't want to insult him just random opinion of random internet user:

I think he tries too hard really often. I understand that he is a content creator so it makes sense, but sometimes it just goes to a point where it gets annoying. Streamers like him just feel so fake at times. Also from little I've seen seems like he gets easily upset/mad if anyone criticises something he does etc.

but as I said I haven't watched him much and its possible that I'm wrong. It just that he feels really similar to a lot of other streamers who just feel annoyingly fake trying to make it on top. So content creation and number centric people.

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SeizVlr
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W take and honest comment

#24
ortuh
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A lot of the EU valorant content scene feels like this, people like grayfps, howtonoodle, flowascending feel so cringe because theyre trying to portray themselves as a good player, when they get most of their "clips" against golds in unrated. averagejonas is probs the most watchable out of all of them as his content like lineup competitions and stuff is pretty good.

#109
happyfeet69
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Honestly get the same feel for tarik nowadays too. Not as much as AverageJonas but the overreacting thing. You go back and watch his vod maybe 1 year ago and watch his vod now, the difference is night and day. I stopped watching him the more fake and overreacty he got.

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patuj
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Yeah thats really possible, haven't really watched him outside of watchparties. And again I have nothing against streamers who do that, but it just isn't for me and I prefer watching streamers who feel more genuine to me.

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greedeetv
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A lot of streamers/influencers nowadays are "fake" but to a degree where they're still very enjoyable to listen/watch. Ludwig, tarik, Courage, Nick Light TV are all people that I watch that definitely overreact but are still entertaining (maybe even because of that). It's their job to entertain after all. However, some streamers fake it and it comes across as cringe. Shazam and AverageJonas are two examples of this for me.

#18
eeeeeeeee
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i cant stand the constant fake laughing

#28
Kai__
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that shit is sooo annoying

#20
meteorite
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guy supports women using onlyfans. insta hate no questions asked

#31
Netero
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Why shouldn't women use onlyfans? You only want men on it?

#41
GiltDoughnutCOPE
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Yes

#67
Itsover
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Only men who look like Van Darkholme or Billy Herrington(rip Aniki)

#123
Subreezy
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well yeah but that's besides the point

#176
swf
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You would wife a girl that does of? If it’s a yes you get no play and that’s the truth.

#62
RG
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W

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SIDD2310
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lavdu he kya chutiye kya W??

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RG
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Haan bhai

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Safzz
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both cringe but sometimes i enjoy avg jonas streams . flow absolute dogshit ngl. tries to be grim with dogshit aim

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juno_VLR
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grim is honestly dogshit too, wouldn’t be shit without his sage walls

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Kezyyz
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most of the scene hates grim/playing w him

#178
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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pro city players must be praying to tarik 20 times a day for getting rid of grim dasnerth etc

#23
alitmanus
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indians hating on him because he's not a retrograde
💀💀

#30
ufc
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BLOODY PENCHOD

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OnlyOneStar
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There is two indian flags in 100 comments idiot

#26
Kai__
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the words 'nice' toxicity describes him perfectly

#32
SeizVlr
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yeah that's what I felt playing with this guy you can't out right call him toxic but he hints negatively to you when you play bad

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Ilovealfajer
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This is actually more annoying than just being toxic, you feel he's making fun of you but can't fight back because you would be seen as the toxic one

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not_smart_user
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i'm fine with him until that one time where he made an entire discussion about parasocial sht mid game. like i was watching him play a game then he suddenly talked about how parasocial a guy from his chat is then the chat proceeds to shame that guy lol that really made me close the tab.

#29
Mbappe
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cringe but profiting from the fact that EU has no English speaking content creators that are interesting personalities

#34
babysasuke
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AverageJonas is by far the most annoying personality in Valorant and I look forward to his inevitable falloff

#35
SeizVlr
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I hope for a drama where it reveals his a total dick to put him in his coffin honestly

#36
B0omsl4ng
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more annoying than yinsu?

#38
Netero
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Yinsu is awesome!

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Ryuji
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💀

#44
Howard
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RATIO

#46
SigmaMale
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😹😹

#48
vollizie
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What's wrong with Yinsu?

#97
Valgod
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Female average jonas

#98
ItsMeDio
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💀

He's coming for you

#99
not_smart_user
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YINSU>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> she's wholesome don't drag her name into this

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ash_knuckles
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hol up wtf did yinsu do bro you're weird

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nutab1e
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🎤🐸

#130
widepeepofrosty
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if i speak monkaLaugh

#120
babysasuke
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He's more annoying than Yinsu for sure

Yinsu has her own separate issues that she needs to work on, but if I speak I am in trouble 🎤

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number1_MIBR_hater
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🎤

#39
Domination
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Didn't watch his stream before so don't really know but he is a content creator so all those lineups are just for content anyway and just basing on his ytb videos I see him as just a normal dude

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Barre
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Honestly has a fake nice personality just to get close to girls. Seems like a okay dude though.

#43
DocKZ
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I thought I was the only one who genuinely disliked this guy. Nice to hear I'm not alone.

#50
SeizVlr
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same here thought I was gonna get MASSIVE backlash saying I was a loser for stating my honest opinion but I guess im not the only one that thinks his isn't as nice as he portrays

#45
Howard
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why do the mods let toxic threads like this stay up

#47
B0omsl4ng
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go cry about it

#49
senboejiden
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"toxic"

#100
OnlyOneStar
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This is nothing ....you have not seen anything if you think this is stupid

#51
ash_knuckles
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either he's a genuinely nice person (yes there actually are people nice like that who aren't fake) or he's virtue signaling hard. show proof of this "nice" toxicity you speak of or you're just malding

#52
B0omsl4ng
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flair checks out btw
bro multiple times hes been a bitch on his stream
and was alao crying during that faze tournament

#54
ash_knuckles
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only cringe thing i've seen about him is half the time his jokes don't land & he and his chat have basic/normie humor. anyone will mald in a tourney where they're losing so that doesn't count.
also Team Liquid is the best org in the world + you hate on everyone's flair so your opinion is irrelevant just like your team

#53
my_fav_team_is_M3C
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I watched him on early days since beta he was quite good on sova tho
For now idk if he’s still relevant since the ranked level is getting higher compared to 2020

It was like sova - jonas, raze - flights, then sage - grimm

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Valgod
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He's so annoying. Constantly complaining and crying about something

#56
andrewdamf
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cringe annoying trash
called him out on youtube and the little kids with anime pfp called me out lmfao

#57
Vampr0se
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what did you call him out on tho

#58
andrewdamf
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he was doing his nerd lineups in the new map
and people were dickriding him saying he was the best sova
there was even people saying he would be a good pro
mfs are actually delusional out there

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Vampr0se
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lmfao true

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juno_VLR
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lmfao ikr? this guy would go 3-20 against Girl Kissers, bait his team, win a 1v3 clutch with lineups, and post it on twitter. We would never hear the end of it.

#59
seltinpixmile
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Lol at people saying "they are glad" they are not the only ones disliking Jonas... how sad can your life be to be glad about that...

#61
juno_VLR
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I thought it was just me. His voice is so grating and annoying, plus he whines about EVERYthing as if he’s actually good. In reality he’s bad, even for a CC, and he lineup crutches (just like a lot of Brim/Viper CCs). Not to mention he thinks he’s some sexy god because he used to sing on a cruise ship and complained that his Twitter thirst trap got reported.

But good for him, building his brand and being successful with a few thousand viewers. You can’t be universally liked after all.

PS: Same with Lothar, his voice is mad annoying and he thinks he’s a genius (OMG GUYS i’ve been trying to tell you the stinger is broken for DECADES, all you have to do is CHANGE UP ALL YOUR KEYBINDS to abuse an ADS bug!!!!)

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babysasuke
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AverageJonas more annoying than l0thar, but l0thar is fucking insufferable and needs to go too

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juno_VLR
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lothar screamed himself into semi-relevance. what even was he on? i swear he claimed you had to jump and ads at the same time or some shit, along with fucking up all your keybinds. “GUYS IT WORKS IN MY DIAMOND LOBBIES!!!”

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crashhacker1
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he was somewhat likable pre-nerf sova but became really negative and passive aggressive as time went on. guy just became too cringe and political, his streams are a mess now and he's become so bad or poor(?) that his streams were accessible for a week or month but now its locked to subs after a day?

#69
Dybala21
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Instant report

#70
ValdemieGC
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honestly? There is something in his personality that makes me back out. I've always thought he's faking a personality for some reason

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ValdemieGC
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other than that I have nothing against him really, it's just my perception of him

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babynutab1e
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so?

he gonna cry or what?

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macro
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already crying lmao

#96
Valgod
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OH WOW HE IS COMPLAINING AND MAKING HIMSELF A VICTIM AGAIN SO UNEXPECTED

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crashhacker1
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"proves this thread right"

LMAO

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babysasuke
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half of the comments are like "theyre just mad that youre using lineups! 🤓"

Totally and completely oblivious to the fact that he's just an unlikable guy with a god complex

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juno_VLR
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Welp guys looks like vlr really gets triggered over my lineups, time to go make some more!
BTW this is that toxic positivity RIGHT HERE
It’s much more than that Jonas. Not surprised he didn’t understand/accept that.

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shxdowy_
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bro ignored everyone's point and said that people are mad at him for creating the "lineup playstyle" 💀

#76
ItsMeDio
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you guys are so honest that it hurts his feeling

awful. just think him as a random content creator.. don't bother to notice him.. too much hate

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SeizVlr
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As I said if he wasn't toxic with me this post would've never existed to start off with.

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ItsMeDio
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my words aren't necessarily towads you.. for vlr in general

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SeizVlr
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Ah sorry, thought you were mad at me

#89
ItsMeDio
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nah i get your point. also, some vlr opinion are understandable (this is not means i supporting it or anything) because some people may thought that he's feels "fake", and are not really that nice.

but i think he's not that bad. he's good with lines up

#77
camosoulja
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Chill

#79
Skyss
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gee gee

#80
G2ShahZaM
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Why is vlr so toxic? this behavior is sickening. #MODG2SHAHZAM

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SeizVlr
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How ? I can't speak up when a content creator has been toxic in the past with one of his fans ? cause yes I watched him ALOT before and the day I got in a ranked game with him I instantly knew it was him, but then he started being a d*** the whole game so I changed my opinion on him. Glad he went to OW2.

#84
TMosura
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There's honesty, and there's being an asshole. Maybe he had an off-day. Maybe he went into the game on a bad streak. I'm not one to judge since I prefer to build my own opinion.

The criticisms? Fine, that's your opinion and I won't step on it. But your behaviour? Not worth debating.

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SeizVlr
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Not an off-day he was live, and my behaviour is bad I admit because I am mad, he doens't deserve his 'nice title' when he acts like this in ranked games and not only in ranked, also when watching tournaments he always is toxic in his level

#88
FaydeVLR
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VOD link?

#122
babysasuke
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https://www.twitch.tv/trickaim

#81
TMosura
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....some of the things I've read on this website.

#95
OnlyOneStar
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You guys decided to allow trolls into website and this will keep happening.....

#104
SigmaMale
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The website would be boring if not

#108
OnlyOneStar
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Then pro players/Streamers will keep giving this type of opinion

#111
ash_knuckles
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who cars

#107
ItsMeDio
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the website would be pretty much dead like other site

#110
OnlyOneStar
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Nahh there is genuine people who want to discussion but here you can't do that

#83
Siege_
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YOU GUYS FCK UP 💀💀💀

#91
camosoulja
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I am banned from his chat for typing a new combination of average jignesh that he had not prohibited

#117
Delusional_SA_fan
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GIGACHAD

#161
juno_VLR
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he got SOOO mad over that and WHY? by reacting he made it 10x worse, literally every kid/young adult knows this. just let it die on its own. instead this guy starts banning hundreds of word combinations 😂

#166
camosoulja
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why am I getting down fragged on this

#92
capital_d_colon
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Idk but If you are going to voice an opinion this strong atleast come with a vod link

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Dybala21
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Agree

#112
ash_knuckles
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got downfragged for asking this xD

#153
andrewdamf
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captain colon
im pretty sure its not possible to give a vod link since he has sub only mode
clips are also disabled.

#102
Amazook
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Big brain

#103
pitchfork
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once again vlr never fail to amaze me

#106
Siege_
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Free drama 🤓🤓

#113
JuJu_tv
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Jonas, dont care about the other people. we love you! Keep up the good content man

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SigmaMale
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nah the glaze is too crazy

#118
nutab1e
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it's averagejonas himself 💀

#162
juno_VLR
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WHO TF IS WE 💀

#115
croissantglows
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grow some balls and shit talk him back, who gives a fuck LMAO don’t go crying to this random ass website just because he called you a bitch online

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SnooTangerines
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I don't know if that's really the best thing to do.

If a random guy speaks up against a genuinely shitty content creator, fans like you will crawl up and harass the person for months.

He spoke out what he had on his mind and Average Jonas did notice. Either defend yourself or accept your mistake. Don't send fans to defend you cause that is a really shitty thing to do.

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croissantglows
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i myself am def NOT a fan of averagejonas LMAO and i couldn’t care less about who the fuck he is, and if you think i’m “harassing him” then please go outside… just acknowledging why someone should care about what people think about them, especially if it’s the internet where you shouldn’t give a fuck about anyone else BUT you, yourself

#127
croissantglows
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same thing applies to averagejonas, why should he give a fuck about random degen haters when it’s the internet, people will both hate and love you for what you do and you have to learn to accept that when you’re “famous,” don’t bitch about it like it’s other people’s problem, take it and embrace the hate to grow stronger

#129
SnooTangerines
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I still don't understand what your point is.

What you suggested in post #115 is clearly dumb and like shooting yourself in the foot.

Also he does have the balls to clearly stand up against Jonas. How else do you think he is supposed to do this? Can an average person really contact Jonas on demand? He could either tweet it and tag him, or make a post on the largest valorant discussion forum there is. Same shit.

#126
L0th
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the best definition of "nice" toxic personality, also he is ultra simping every egirl on twitter lmao

#131
Kk0bra1101
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Why TF are Jonas and flow catching flak????,it's streaming
for godsake there's a lot of pressure and social management u have to do every single day. And Jonas is more richer, successful and talented than most of us ever will be, plus it's not like he came out of nowhere, he geniunily reinvented the way PPL thought of lineups and sova and i think that deserves credit, and abt flow and grim they're both playing a very creative way of sage that is very fun and exciting, yeah if u don't like it think they are cheesing, that's ur problem broski, if u like vanilla u have it no one is stopping u, but that doesn't mean the PPL who don't eat vanilla are bad cause they are different from u

And abt the whole them having an ego or whatever and being nice toxic, there fking internet personalities mates they need to keep a line, for their own mental health

MAN THIS WEBSITE IS FILLED WITH MAN CHILDREN AND I CAN'T GET OUT!!!!!!!!!, GUYS THERE'S NO NEED TO BE TOXIC TO EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING, JUST STOP HATING ON STUFF ITS NOT THAT DIFFICULT

#132
nutab1e
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🐷🚴‍♂️

#133
burritx
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Man acting like he's stuck on vlr.gg 💀

#135
Kk0bra1101
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Fun fact , i am

#147
WinterZ
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how so?

#159
Kk0bra1101
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This is the only decent valorant forum, the others are dogshit, but that doesn't mean we can't make the site better

#134
Dybala21
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It's vlr, what can we expect?

#136
R3belGg
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You guys have other things to do rather than posting your opinions on streamers.... right? I hope there's no way your life is that boring.

#137
cobalt21312
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There’s nothing wrong with posting a opinion about a streamer

#138
queueK
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you are on a valorant forum where people are discussing a valorant streamer. what did you expect when you came to this site lmfao

#143
crashhacker1
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how much time do you think it takes to type up an honest opinion about a streamer?

#158
SnooTangerines
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And you are here defending a streamer from some dumb comment some dumb people made on a dumb website.

All it shows is, you are the real lifeless person here.

#139
Clapzoo1
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One of the few times I went on his stream, he was just showing pictures from when he was a singer and went on a ton of cruises or whatever and it seemed kinda.. show-off-y?? I don't know how to explain it, he just seems kinda fake

#140
faylentine
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Cringe asf

#148
brobeans
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I'm confused. mods are deleting the yinsu hate threads but not the average jonas ones. I feel like that is unfair and sexist

#150
Subreezy
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mods locked the thread i made about average jonas but didn’t lock this one, the one actually inciting hate towards him 💀💀

#152
NG1nS
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bcz u tried too hard to be a good boy, don't complain about it now lol

#155
SeizVlr
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Yeah dunno how this still isn't locked or deleted LMAO

#151
Delusional_SA_fan
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Vlr mods hahahahahahaha

#154
CowokjarangmAndy
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Ultra Common VLR mods L

#156
SigmaMale
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They're huge simps.

#157
Siege_
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She > he 🤓

#163
Nahbooo
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Bro trying ban speedrun

#164
babysasuke
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This happens every time Yinsu gets cooked

Thread or just specific replies about her get deleted

Probably because she hopped on her alt, tried to say something, got cooked, then cried

#165
LOGITECHGPRO
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Personally I know he isn't a bad person, however his takes on certain topics are extremely one-sided and whenever someone tries to point out the dark / shitty side of his take he starts going into victim mode saying how the comments are too toxic or hateful speech like dude. For example his take on OF and how people should be less prejuice about having one like I understand if your posting content that isn't sex related and is focused on something else then that fine it's like posting on a Youtube channel except your subs come at price of 4.99$ however most OF users post what OF was created for which is sexual content and , take a moment and imagine your mother or sister having an onlyfans posting pictures of themselves in lingerie showing off there ass and boobs and your classmates, co-workers, friends, or bf/gf side of the family stumble across it, your life would be heavily impacted by it cause your other relationships might be ruined because of it and also most girls who do OF because they have to make ends meet probably suffer from some type of depression of mental health issue like some people rlly consider the risk of losing your closest connections just because they wanted to make easy money at the price of pride and dignity. Imagine going to one of your friends or your bf/gf family and they ask what you do for a living or how do you have so much money and you reply with "I post myself half-naked on OF" it's so shameful and basically in it's own way shows that your dignity and pride can be bought at the same price as a snickers bar and which is why most people who do value and care about there relationships with other people don't create an onlyfans.

#168
Yuiaq
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AINT READING ALL ATH

#170
Chromantix
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vros mad he has to pay for porn 💀

#177
Supr3meGucci
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Learn how to format

#169
Valgod
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He needs to stay away from team liquid

#171
Adagio_
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I thought was a nice guys, just a bit Toxic when tilted in game which is not really visible on his YT . But the all the comment there about is "Nice" Toxicity and else got me really intrigued. Might watch a stream one day. Because i do feel like, maybe people over fetishise him for the all "sova main stuff" making him untouchable on any other aspect.

#173
SeizVlr
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had to bring this W thread back sorry guys.

#174
queueK
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stfu little bitch stop actin like ur something

#175
SeizVlr
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yes sir sorry won't happen again.

#180
Trapyy_
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bro makes a thread that has mildly more people than normal interacting and thinks he is cool and has to bring it up again

#184
Subreezy
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bro necro'd his own thread

#179
ax0788
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I watched for a bit and yeah I agree, his fake laughing is just..

#182
Simp4S0m
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I don’t really car much bout him but he seems cool

#183
Bonkbonk201
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I couldn't care less about either, but i remember once i got timed out in flow's chat for answering a question in a way he didn't like.

As i side note, because of this thread i went and watched him and within 5 minutes he got his ego hurt after using a grim wall because someone said "grim wall" in chat and perma banned them, he kinda just seems like a man child with ego problems tbh

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