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TL are not bad though. nAts, Kamo and their coaching staff made it to all internationals last year, MiniBoo is very experienced, purp0 and Kicks are decent. They are one of the most underrated teams. They really didn't change much from last year outside of losing Keiko. Liquid 5th was always pretty bad and Patitek was pretty replaceable.
TL should be very good for double duelist meta as MiniBoo, purp0 and Kamo are all most known for duelist but also have flexibility.
He did, but Alfajer is elite level player and there is no denying of that even if he didnt perform today
Thats true but weird point to make when APAC didnt even make it to finals. Its just fact that purely on average placement both Americas and EMEA placed higher.
and edit: I mean difference of the finals matchup not teams outside of finals. Whoever won between FNC and NRG. Finals being the only difference.
How did APAC have better results? 2 teams grouped and 3rd, 4th placements. EMEA 7-8th, 5-6th and 2nd. Americas 7-8th, 5-6th and 1st.
Literally finished same in Champs as Americas outside of finals result. 2 teams topped their group, 3 made it to playoffs and 1 made it to finals. Liquid imploded and performed no were near their regional level.
Yeah that is also issue, but im just saying that you could argue they were favorites that year but just lost the finals to Apeks. Its not like they just came out of nowhere and ascended. No doubt they have been scrimming VCT teams actively for 1+ year.
Yes, but they have been best tier 2 team and just choked Ascension finals. Many were rating them as mid tier VCT level even in tier 2.
I think non-EMEA watchers dont realize this core of BBL has been tier 1 level for long time just not in VCT. They've been like the best tier 2 EMEA for long time even at the time when Apeks ascended with Kaajak. They choked finals and were underaged anyway. Many pros rate them from what I've seen.
Hahaha or maybe EMEA just has multiple good teams? People love to shit on EMEA. If this was ENVY beating NRG everyone would be saying how Americas is stacked that even ENVY can challenge best team in region, but here because its EMEA its automatically: Fnatic sucks, BBL only win because Fnatic suck. Holy cope. EMEA has many teams that can challenge each other and BBL has been the best tier 2 team EMEA for like a year with shit ton of experience scrimming VCT teams.
don't get me wrong Fnatic attack looked kinda ass but point stands
if they make multiple international finals then they are clearly above others as well
"rest of emea teams are ass"
"fnatic making it to international finals"
guess international teams are ass then as well
Alfajer top mechanical player even tho he doesn't play sentinel that much anymore. Suygetsu constantly one of highest rated player in EMEA in terms of stats. Minny has also played in VCT for over 1 year already.
KOI would have been eliminated already
He is fine. Nothing crazy so far, but overall very decent smokes player
EMEA innovates the most out of any region. Playing same popular comp is not innovating.
says that with Americas flair actual copycat region
Yeah both Ruxic and Hiro are insane have been since stage 2. Feel like both struggled in stage 1. But right now they are arguable the best duo in EMEA and are still underrated somehow.
Early to say, but they are good. They were already good in Stage 2 last season. They didn't qualify for Champs but the competition was very high and they werent far off. They only lost that to TL, GX and BBL as both FNC and TH had already qualified and eliminated.
True. Idk he looks so disconnected from what I've seen. Like he isn't on voice and is just playing solo and getting punished for it. On M8 I thought it was just language issue and the fact that he was new on the team, but here seems like the same. I guess PCF system really helped him as they played around him very well.
They got selected to VCT, but just before VCT they ascended or whatever it was called at the time.
Yeah Crashies is good I forgot, but he used to be top initiator back in OpTic days already and just needed new team to activate again
Hmm could it be that these Ascensions teams get their players poached the moment they ascend or other circumstances. Apeks lost Kaajak and Soulcas, PCF lost their whole roster, and ULF don't have their 2 highest fraggers... also if you look at FUT they actually did well after ascending way back.
Also talking shit about EMEA tier 2 players is insane when EMEA has the widest tier 2 talent pool out of any region and has brought in shit ton of talent. And your take about NA players popping off is false as well when majority of the imports have been mid tier. EMEA just has so many spots to fill and on average teams take risks with tier 2 talent so the competition for those is high and often teams need to look for other options including imports. There is also language barriers and contract barriers that stop some moves from happening. Like how many tier 2 players have high buyouts etc compared to the amount teams are willing to pay.
i guess but they likely already had this idea with Sayonara/Derke split so they just put Jamppi on Sayonara's role completely. Derke better op player.
Sayonara would be playing Yoru, but with UNFAKE I think they decided that Jamppi 2nd duelist is better
Yeah BBL has looked kinda bad.. honestly looks like how they were at Blender. Bit disjointed and maybe overly cocky. Don't really know why.
cNed has had horrible game. NINJA has been pretty bad as well, but at least he is rookie and support player. Hopefully he can perform better otherwise he is clear replacement.
This match is 90% rookies btw
al0rante is playing good and especially considering he is playing smokes. Only like 6 kill difference to seven this game as well. Hopefully he can keep up.
Im talking about imports to EMEA. People always talk how "this guy is going to dominate" just for them to look mediocre. N4rrate has been the only exception as he was very good and so far Seven is having a good game, but for rest they weren't very good and didn't keep their spot. Like yesterday many were hyping up dos9 after every kill just for him to have pretty bad game overall (he is not import, but many think he is). Same hype with Wayne but we will have to see.
Apeks was full of bad players, being the best is no challenge. And both were duelists getting personal support from the rest of the team. If you compare them to other duelists they were very mid tier. Better than Molsi, Avova, Batujnax, Olizera/hype/Governor holy!
Penny was the middest duelists and often even below that and Florescent had highlights but pretty mid overall and she got so much support from her team like most out of any duelist on any team.
non-EMEA people like to talk about imports and sets high expectations for them just for those imports to be bad/mid. N4rrate was the only actually good import we've had and even for him you could argue that KC developed him. Team and chemistry issues aside Koalanoob was very mediocre, Flyuh was bad, Florescent was pretty mid especially considering she got the most util support out of any duelist, Penny was mediocre to pretty weak.
Not huge fan of him on duelist tbh. It fits meta, but feels like flex was his best role. He is too ADHD on duelist. But I also think that players are not too used to playing on Breeze yet and that is why their positions are kinda bad at times and they overheat.
That was fine. cNed almost died and NINJA was just securing the kill. Bit bad timing from him, but it wasnt that bad.
maybe i missed but i thought it was clone and he likely did as well
One off season tournament. BBL PCF was top tier 2 team for over a year and should do well in tier 1. TLA also beat other VCT teams as no one took that tournament that seriously.
You think big governments like US, China etc. wouldn't want to put you in controller environment and study you so they could gain your ability? Or they wouldn't straight on want to use you as their pawn? If someone had actual superpowers they would be top priority for powerful agencies. They would track you and your family for rest of your life, likely even threaten and eventually catch you. You would become living weapon pretty much and that alone could be used as reasoning for your capture.
NAVI was already good end of Stage 2 and had realistic chance at making it to Champs. People underestimate how competitive EMEA was. Only questions now are that can Shao(?) IGL them well enough and how Filu frags but NAVI has never relied on duelists anyway.
Well yeah but that is also because Riot chose both FUT and BBL to VCT + Turkish teams often do well in tier 2 so both PCF and ULF ascended. That is already 4 full Turkish teams.
Lewn > Filu
Avez > sociablEE
Suygetsu = hiro
dos9 < Ruxic
Sheydos = Shao
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