Report: Pacific partnership candidates headlined by multiple LCK organizations

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this may actually be one of the worse scenarios possible.
oce fucked
indo fucked
jpn kinda fucked

only region that prospers is kr

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and phillipines

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This is a big win for ph and India too tho

And they really fucked Thai too

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trsut me we are alos fucked

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kr fucked too. imagine the hate they would get

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omfg, thats gonna suck.

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As a KR fan KR is not a major region in valorant and does not deserve 5 spots at all. idk why there's no CN, and other regions definitely deserves more spots imo, especially APAC.

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You gotta remember that all of these teams will all be based on seoul even the non Korean teams, so more than likely even if its a korean org, it could be completely made out of non korean players

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No one is fucked. Want to improve, then play against the best.

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how are you supposed to compete against the best when they are locked away in a franchised league

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i get that the lck orgs will pick up japanese players but i worry about representation of other countries like australia, china, thailand, etc etc.

i think diversity is very very healthy for an asian league but thats just my opinion

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China most likely will have their own league

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what does that even mean? there is an asia league, and iirc, china is in asia.

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china dont even have "valorant" yet

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not wrong

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Huh? what???? Is this a bad joke?

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5 KR???
1 JP??????
RITO????????????

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This company has actually gone fucking insane. One bad decision after another.

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they say "we might be having a lan in japan because its quite popular there" then proceeds to do this

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KEKW?

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Isn’t Talon a Hong Kong org?

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yeah but they have Ph roster in val

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Sandbox and Redforce are popular in which eSports?
Other than lck ofc

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Sandbox has a Rainbow6 Siege team that made top 8 a couple majors. But dont really know anything other than this 😅

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Mortadelo

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Just 1 Jp but 5 Kr, no indo or Thai, Paper Rex and GE and who tf are Sandbox and Redforce?

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LCK orgs

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Mortadelo

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I think they have the total amount of 3 fans combined in Valorant counting their players

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rip oce

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Fr, I wanted renegades to make it atleast

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Oce is just NA academy anyway, we all know that

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minte

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oce? thai? indo? only 1 jp? if this is final, wtf is riot doing?

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Sources close to the situation have also told VLR.gg that neither Team PWR or Renegades have a chance to make the Pacific league, contrary to previous belief; eliminating Oceanic teams from contention

F

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Japan from 8 teams to 1 lmao what happened there

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edit: nvm, i thought the korean orgs could build japanese rosters, but this doesn't seem to be the case.

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lets hope CR makes the cut

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Yikes can't believe im going to the L from koreanoverlord out of all ppl. 5 spots in unbelievable

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No shot not even one of thai or indo orgs didn’t make it. It’s bizarre

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its possible Talon might buyout either FS or XIA, as they had 1 game with complete Thai roster and another game with few members (e.g. Talon has experience fielding thai teams)

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I see

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they might buy out edg as they are a hk org

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No

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not valid

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All I want rn is Crazy Racoon and Xerxia in

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enormous L for the apac scene as a whole if this goes through

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no shady orgs > shady orgs- not like 5 teams will go for korean rosters

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Hopefully you're right, I misread and thought that the list at the bottom was more confirmed than it is, but i still hope some of the more established names aren't booted for LCK orgs

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what i mean is just because 5 teams are lck orgs doesn't mean they will all run Korean rosters

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Finally my Gen G flair back

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Please. Bring it back

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its orgs people not teams

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one guy gets it

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Mbappe

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Some would rather have a org struggling to pay their players a decent salary in to add a new nationality

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A Korean org pretending to represent Thailand, Indonesia or Australia isn't going to work. They're Korean, it'll feel forced and fake.

Easy for Korean fans to accept as they're going to have multiple guarenteed teams to support while for other countries we're relying on the Korean orgs picking up our players, and then they can drop them at any moment.

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i dont think it will be a serious problem. people might even forget about it after a while.
Look at liquid a big European org has been representing NA csgo for how many years now? aslong as the players are from the region the fans will 100% support

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You can't use EMEA as an example, we are different.

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The franchise league players will have protections in place and in a franchise system all player transfers have to be approved by riot

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My main issue is that all that money is going to be going into Korean infrastructure, even with the protection for rosters they will eventually be dropped anyway, and in the end, that will lead to zero development for the countries within SEA. We're completely relying on successful minor leagues which is a huge gamble.

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Big L from Riot

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GENG G BACK

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L rito

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Seulgi

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Hey guys, made some changes at the bottom for TLDR. PLEASE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS IS CONCRETE

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please can you please add a big highlighted text at the front that nothing is confirmed yet ?

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The list is tentative, as few orgs have been told if they have been confirmed to make it

Feel like this should be enough no?

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sorry my only concern was many are taking this list as a final

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chill bro

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Why 5 kr when they have one of the lowest viewers?

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ikr
riot is so fuckn biased to there korean

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lmao they are trying to kill the Japan scene just like that?

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Japan, possibly indo oce and th

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not hiding the murder of OCE

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My bad chedz im edited it for you

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very good!

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this is the least believable list.

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Japan watching = 15 X korea , then why only 1 JP team ?

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At least put Crazy Raccoon. They already have full Korean rosters in Apex Legends that have plenty of fans. Would like to see them over Nongshim. CR will have pull regardless if they have a full JP, full KR, or mixed roster.

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Don't worry guys. Just like what Selugi mentioned, the list isn't concrete. There still could be changes with moving teams to different countries or swapping teams with others for equality. Besides, we have until next week to find out.

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so thats why the league are held on korea..

they don't deserve it. GIVE SEA & JP MORE SLOTS (I mean KR obviously not bad, but 5 teams? WHAT THE ACTUAL FCKS DUDE)

Also, Indonesia valorant just dead like that? Unacceptable riot..
please at least make one team go through. The country is hella competitive, so many good players

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also no china slot

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They wanted to avoid what happened to PUBG likely
(Krafton gave China qualifying seeds in the pro scene, what happened is they get temp banned by the govt and currently causing every streaming platform to avoid saying "PUBG" and rather go by "Chicken Game". On top is PUBG never got approved but was available with a separate server)

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give japan more slots not sea

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many of SEA probably beat most of JP team, only zeta is actually good

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riot japan is too small(also japan has prize money limit) and korea has lck . so it is comfortable to riot to hold the league in korea. korea riot has skills and experience from lck.
but 5 korea treams are not acceptable. even though i am korean

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They laughed when I said this esport is doomed for failure

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Riot Korean favoritism is crazy

They really think this is LoL where Koreans will carry the game 🤣🤣

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orgs =/= teams

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In SEA : orgs == team

It doesnt feel the same when a sea team is under a kr or emea org

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find out where Team Secret HQ is

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well technically a lot of us support PRX and they were founded by a Swedish CS pro, what matters is the players imo

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If they don't force the KR orgs to pick up SEA talent this is gonna be a joke.

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ehhhhhhhhhhhh

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RRQ indo last hope??

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Yes, sama tinggal tunggu announcement onic hari ini😭

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Teori 6 to 0, 6 core onic di buyout rrq. Semoga ril gt ya 😔

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Ternyata announcement tim pubgm mereka. Aduh jadi makin ngeri

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4 KR fine if it was DRX/Damwon/GenG & T1 but making room for Sanbox & RedForce? really?
I think they're just hoping ascention fixes it on its own, but rip OCE

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this.

i feel like its a bit random and weird to add non val org just like that, ik they are big in LCK, but still im actually happy with DRX DWG GENG and T1, 3-4 KR team its still okay, and sad for OCE INDO THAI if this is true. onic G, boom, RRQ, AE, XIA, FS, ORDER, MITH :((

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ORDER are out of business man😭 they wont make it one way or another

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I feel like orgs representation will be from these countries but some of these orgs will be forced to pickup rosters/players from other countries like Indonesia,Thailand ,Oceania,so even though org will be Korean it will be very likely that their roster could be Thai/indo

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I know this is all rumours, but it looks like a scary and unfair distribution for Japan.
Not seeing CR in the 10 is actually kind of shocking, and not even a mention of Northeption, which actually to me suggests that one of the Korean orgs that are going to be entering VALORANT for the first time with this opportunity got a deal with Riot, contingent on the signing of Northeption, which, what I assume, is being hinted at in the article:

with one of the LCK orgs being rumored to lean towards a Japanese roster.

Besides, President of Esports for Riot has acknowledged that VALORANT "is super popular there. [in Japan]", so I wouldn't be surprised for them to have Japan in scope for such a colossal partnership deal, at least more in scope than JUST 1 TEAM.

Also, intrigued and not too surprised with them giving this Indian org a chance, since they're already adding an Indian agent, it seems to me they're going to be trying to tap into the Indian market, too - the same way they're trying to get more Turkish players with the addition of Fade and hosting Champions in Istanbul.

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Oceanic teams can never catch a break :(

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WTF ??? why is Rito jacking off korea ? Like ik they're good , at most give them 3 orgs but having 5 orgs?? Like you could give Japan one more slot and have one oce team as well. This is insanely unfair imo. Not to mention china isnt even in the scene still. APAC should be 12 teams at least.

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Have you seen the valorant Champion Tour Channel. They don't even show apac a lot of the time, but show some nobody from kr☠️

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Imagine global esports going to sao paulo (i know they'll change their rosters but it's just funny)

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It's just funny cause there is no Indonesian Org in Franchising 💀💀💀

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Xd 💀

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mfs can't even qualify for LCQ 💀💀💀 good luck trying not to get 2-0'd by tier 3 japan team 💀💀💀

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mfs can't even have a proper org/boot camp and funds LMAO💀💀💀
Adani owns you __ xD

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those nice orgs and bootcamp sure do send india team to international LAN 💀💀💀 oh wait, mfs couldn't even get a single map from HKTW team, let alone all these tier 1 APAC teams in franchise 💀💀💀

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That's why Riot Pick Indian org over Indo LMAO 💀💀

Indo orgs be like My money don't jiggle jiggle

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ahh yes, a rich esports orgs, something that i could proud of my country esport scene 💀

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No doubt
Country > anything

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please don't mind him, he is a troll. We all know Indonesian players > Indian.

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Korean league

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No oce org?

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I doubt Riot is going to trade the huge japanese fanbase for the little small korean

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should be more like
3 KR (DRX, DWK, GenG/T1)
2 JP (ZETA, NTH/CR/FEN/REJ)
PRX
GE
1 OCE
TS
XER

SEA, OCE, JP, CN all getting shafted by this move if Korea is getting 5 slots. Although hopefully the pacific teams can mix in from other sub regions within the league. I.E. SEA players for a KR org. Otherwise the entire pacific league is kinda fucked.

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better solution would be having APAC North and South. If China sorted out their problem and have it resolved 4 KR, 3 JP, 3 CN wouldn't cause so much trouble to APAC South (SEA/SA/OCE) situation

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Honestly I agree, would be alot smarter and simpler, but common rito L's so..

Just hopefully the rosters aren't scuffed if this does happen.

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sad for indo :(

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One team region trying so hard

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JP and SEA giving valorant popularity and become the best FPS in ASIA, in the end Korea winning everything. Its sad bro, no TH / ID team cant believe

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DRX is the best FPS in Asia though ;-;

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5 teams from the region which have only one decent team???
what?

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come on bro, KR is riot gold son🤣

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RIP INDO💀

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really sad for indonesians

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vct is officialy dead on APAC at 2023

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this is cringe, just change the league name from PACIFIC to VCK (Valorant Champions Korea)

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Guys, those are only the orgs. It doesn't mean the players will belong to the same nationality. Gen.G was NA based till recently. Do you guys really think those orgs are dumb enough to pick up only KR players when they have Xerxia and PRX's rosters available? C'mon...

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Korean orgs will always be Korean, you can't change that by picking up a SEA roster for a bit. They will do nothing to build the South East Asian regions.

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i have same idea with you. korean orgs always prefer korean roster.

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T1 and Gen.G were playing in the US. That's not true at all. They will chose to lose on purpose? That's just plain stupid

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last time seulgi post u know what happends, so don’t worry lmao

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AECL di buyout ya? 😂😂

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AECL buyout☠️🤡

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No Edward??? No FPX??? LOOOL

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why whould FPX here in Apac ? ar u drunk or what

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FPX is a Chinese esports org no?

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FPX is a chinese org LOL, take a look at LOL esports history and you'll know

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so braindead, if there really is 5 kr orgs obviously it doesn't mean 5 korean teams

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Korean orgs will always be Korean, doesn't matter if they pick up SEA players. Easy for you to accept since you are spoilt for choice.

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if JP get 5 and KR only 1, will u say the same ? Lmao

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yeah tbh. almost all JP orgs import KR talent anyway.

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Dayum the dickriding is crazy

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Ngl rrq seems better than ts rn but we are talking about money here ts are fucking rich

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RRQ the biggest org in SEA origin
Team Secret so big but the origin its not from SEA
Thats a bad joke team like RRQ failed to partnership

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Question is, are they keeping their PH core or buying out some of indos roster if they're really making it. (Boom and onic G are so free). They have a quite reputation in indonesian fps rosters with their legendary world champion Point Blank teams in endeavor so i think they could possibly buyout indo roster and tryna remake endeavor story in valorant (with already est roster obviously) or im just on an ultra high copium rn we'll see.

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I think they keeping the fil line up or make an indo - fil line up cuz i like to see it

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wha-

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bro JP CARRIES viewership so they better rethink this decision

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The current one is the best ngl
L franchising

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so is oce never gonna join val lol?

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this is sad

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Global Esports let's goo! Can't wait to see Kappa dragging the team down.

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No way kappa plays 🤡, most he can do is be a fill in sova for academy team for few weeks

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Or he could get promoted to waterboy of the main Valorant squad.

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-Kappa + Psynath/tesseract

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Seulgi Prediction Post
Update: New information has made it clear that all the teams i leaks has not been acquired of yet. The article has been changed to reflect new information

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ATLEAST Prx made it

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Smh my head not enough Korean teams

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We should be happy other teams got a chance in the Korean league

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DRX
DAMWON
ONSLAYERS(i think Gen.G or Nongshim will assume this roster)
ZETA DIVITION
Northeption
Crazy racoon
Paper Rex
XERXIA
Global Esports
Team secret

I think this is the best
3 korean
3 japanese
1 Singapore
1philippines
1 india
1 thailand

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Yeah i'm fine with this

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for sure xerxia deserves a slot in this tournaments they are 3rd most experienced org from apac. (sea+korea+SA)

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prx, drx(vs),xerxia,zeta,ts this slots should be fixed

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yeah it would be scary if there 1 indonesia superteam, because we have such a many talent

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Imagine Nakya, Kush, Lmemore, Tehbotol, Fl1pzjder, etc. in one team

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yeah RITO have a good sense to not ruin their partnership with indonesian superteam just dominating the franchise league

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I would definitely prefer more regions than just 3...Like have NA - SA instead of Americas, and SEA+PACIFIC with ASIA by itself (KR, JP, CH) imo...But having 3 regions only probably a test drive for RIOT as well, see how things will go i guess!

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rip oce val :D now for oce to have a chance international they have to play challengers league and then have to beat every asia team not in partner from other challengers just to have a chance in a league they need to top to play masters or champs, great pathways :D

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We going the League of Legends route of pretending the OCE scene doesn't exist from the look of it.

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Rip bruh

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are u serious xerxia is qualified every global tour this year and last year they got top 8 in champion with x10 team and then they gonna not qulified for the leauge?

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No OCE ID TH VN, common riot L

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Let be honest here, Xerxia is not strong at all as a brand.

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I second this. XERXIA is a new esports org/brand (lack of branding as a result) with a "relatively" small budget and support team compared to some of the other teams here (I know riot will be providing funds and as such this might not be as relevant as it would normally but admittedly, XERXIA has a lot of fans purely because of the players, not the org, and I'm sure there would be support no matter what org the players will play under).

What I do like about XERXIA (Aside from their logo and jersey, I heckin love pink btw so they deserve a slot for that solely), is they 'appear' to have a more international mindset and vision that could hopefully mean for an incentive and higher likelihood of shifting operations to S.Korea but again, the inexperience shows in their marketing team and social media - It all looks a little too unpolished for my liking and that sort of move seems too unlikely and turbulent.

I think what people are forgetting is that the ASIAN league is headquartered in Seoul, S.Korea and is where the matches will be played. It is simply easier and more convenient logistically to use orgs already established in Korea with proper facilities and bootcamps (Not to mention connections that may involve legal rights, visas etc. that all require knowledge from locals).

What I can envision, is a merging of orgs (Likely a Thai org like XERXIA and a S.Korean org). Perhaps, one of the lesser known Korean teams would prefer to capitalise on the Thai market and valorant fans, and choose to shift their focus towards that. This way, although they may not receive the full benefits due to the effect of the merging, they can tap in on a completely different market to the Korean one.

Again, everything in this post is leaks and speculations, so don't draw your conclusions yet people! Plenty can still change in the coming months.

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This

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same same, how tf did TALON qualified, none of their matches was broadcasted except some t2-3 tourneys, meanwhile RRQ qualifies to both PH and APAC challengers and they still didnt make it??

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Well Talon is a big org and part of the PCS Franchise

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imagine overrated KR region (except DRX) got 5 potential to franchising its really embarrassing.

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WHAT THE FUCK IS GLOBAL ESPORTS? SMALL.

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Wtf global esport

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It is an Indian org bro it had overwatch fortnite korea dota cs sea rosters + they have huge fundings + 55k watching on youtube for qualifying event because of skrossi+ their rosters got into apac 3 times in a row and defeated damwon gaming , which defeated sentinels+ they even attended istanbul as VIP's you remember that guy cheering for optic less go optic whom tarik reacted they were ge management+ they have a ready to set up bootcamp in seoul so yeah they represent south asia and are a good org so why not?

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damwon beat sentinels??

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Still holding on to that one lcq win huh. Forgot you got 13-0’d by paper Rex in the same qualifier?

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Hahaha literally ask any Koreans they will tell you that val is not even on the national esports radar there. 5 kr orgs what a fucking joke - I hope ow2 properly kills kr val and riot will be forced to take its head out it's ass (this is not kr hate, only riot hate)

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ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ ㅄ

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Laughing at salty jap ... Honestly cannot blame, y'all are the only ones who didn't get fucked over ig

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youre not japanese fake flag

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2 Kr
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4 SEA
1 Cn
1 Oce
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Hello everyone! A secondary update has been made to clarify on a bit of information that could be misinterpreted:

BLEED did not apply.
Not ALL LCK orgs could make it in. Some can be denied, others could shift to other regions: this shouldn't mean to automatically assume KR gets 5 slots. They are just candidates. Slot allocations can differ. Below are changes in the text to clarify on this & the prefaced message:

"Depending on the slot allocation, some of the other organizations in contention to possibly take a slot could be"

"Out of the verified organizations, a possible Pacific league could look like: "

"...being the five Korean orgs rumored to each have likely chances to advance."

For other, clearer clarifications that I could not fit in this article for the sake of everyone, you can feel free to check them out here: https://twitter.com/SeulgiVLR/status/1572398341081960448

Love to have clear communication with you guys. Thank you for putting up with me as I try to get information out in the best way possible, and I am sorry for not making some of this clear in my inaugural version of the article.
STILL KNOW THIS IS TENTATIVE AND COULD EASILY BE MUCH DIFFERENT IN FINALIZATION

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thank you!

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Thank you

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So today is the reveal day, right?

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Yes, Today will be sad day for some region.

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Any idea what time?

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23.00 GMT +8 or 8.30 PM Mumbai time, if the rumour is right.

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Korea rocks , rest of APAC shocks

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that korean teams should take onic/boom/xerxia rosters

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Optic Gaming did not get the franchise slot. Source - Valorintel.

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G2 also out of franchising coz CEO was party with Andrew Tate.

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100T have got the slot for NA.

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FINAL UPDATE! APAC ORGS ARE OUT

DRX
GENG
T1
ZETA
DETONATION
GLOBAL ESPORTS
RRQ
PAPER REX
TEAM SECRET
TALON ESPORTS

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT :)

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