1. Forsak3n (Bro is just good at everything)
2. Aspas (Duelist GOAT)
3. Johnqt (IGL that can absolutely frag)

He's good. Might need an attitude check as with many young Thai players but I believe that if he is put on a team with experienced players cough cough TALON ~ insane things will happen.

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Governor, Jitboys and Ban need to lock in and play their best game. Crws has to at least counter-strat and call good midrounds if they want to win. Surf, my boy looks lost half the time, but he's improving.

Overall, team has potential but biggest issues lie within communication and language barriers within the team.

But who actually cares about EMEA though?

TLN tops the group, I was being generous only considering them top 5, the reality is they are TOP 1. The loss they took against GEN.G and the close games they had were just for dramatic effect. I'll see you in the playoffs buddy.

aint nuttin to be happy about.

I don't see a problem with that.

If DFM doesn't troll and play scared like they did yesterday, DFM can beat GE just as easy ~ really depends on who are the better shooters on the day. Both have decent strats and reads on the game but I do feel like DFM's comms might be a little smoother since there isn't a language barrier. Either way, I think that game will be close, DFM has time to fix their shit and GE are heating up these past 2 weeks and honestly should've beat TALON before they could get their momentum on.

I've been looking at the Pacific groups and while unlikely, what happens if only 1-2 teams in a group meet the minimum requirements of 2 wins. Does the next best team still get to progress or is it the 4th best from the other group? Just curious how this works.

That also works.

• Zest/sScary share IGL duties, pull a PRX whereby there is main callers but no particular set IGL but I think distributing between the two is beneficials since both these dudes are experienced and have game knowledge.

• Yay plays the perma Sentinel role and flexes onto Jett/Chamber when needed

• Retla moves back to his comfort flash/Initiator role.

• Zest stays on Recon or plays Viper when double controller is needed (If Sova map, put this damn guy on Sova and retlA can fill Viper on those maps).

• Deryeon goes to primary duelist and plays Jett/Raze/Neon or whatever the team needs. Bro is sometimes missing a brain but he can still frag and is a selfless player.

Basically just copy GEN.G and the way their roles/playstyle works out. Even the most aggressive duelists like Meteor (GENG) and Surf (TLN) have been moved to the sentinel role and I think Yay has always had this patient playstyle so he'll slot in pretty quickly.

Zest (Recon/Viper)
Yay (Sentinel/Jett)
Deryeon (Duelist)
Retla (Initiator)
sScary (Controller)

No.

Hard to hype this clownfest tbf. I know that QUACK can get really passionate on the intense games and on his good days is absolutely a good caster.

Hard agree if they do want to keep him that's the role he should be put on otherwise just get some other damn players and make him a 6th or drop him entirely.

Exactly, just put DERYEON on RAZE and make Yay play Sentinel. Bro plays like a turtle anyway so just let him run with a new role. It's not like hes dumb either just his util timings are ass but perhaps his lurk timings are still good.

So do u think crazyguy can make good calls when the atmosphere is shit? When his teammates never listen to him and play on their own becuz of their egos? crazyguy calling was god-like in T2 because of juicy nephh and deryeon always believe in him

Nam stays mad.

They need a new coach/coaching staff. LEGIJA looks like he's been doing nothing all season long since BLEED looks the damn same. Bring some fresh ideas or something, like wtf?

sScary is fragging but his mid-rounding is getting read like a book. He's not baiting today and perhaps because the team chemistry has improved a little and he believes in his teammates but gahd damn they choke like hell. This team literally looks like they are on different planets at times with their comms. Feels like they were thrown into ranked together.

The roster needs to blow up and the org needs to decide on a direction to take. sScary and Zest are absolutely star players they should aim to keep but that comes with the trade off of a possible language barrier ~ but if sScary steps down as IGL and gives it to someone proficient then things might look different. If they want to keep their Singaporean identity then they should kick sScary and sign Egoist back and some other up and coming Singaporeans.

Well, they aren't? lol. Speak with facts not feelings buddy. They look ass with both iterations but CRAZYGUY won Ascension against T2 teams and a very different roster. Do I think he deserves a chance to prove himself again especially after working his ass off for Ascension? Absolutely! But if you have conflicting interests the decision is either to drop CRAZYGUY or drop SSCARY so choose your poison. Who's to say that CRAZYGUY didn't ask for sScary and Yay to be dropped instead? You listen to one side and make assumptions.

That's just all of APAC though, our region is like this as a whole. Full of young, egotistical kids who found their talents in a newfound game. This is definitely not a Thai-exclusive issue either so don't make it out like that. The whole region is fucked.

I am not denying toxic mentalities nor egotistical players. I am simply saying that the level of play in the Thai T2 scene is not bad and the two current top teams atm FS and MiTH actually play a smart and methodical game.

Honestly, as a Thai, I can see it and agree with most points he made. The mechanical skill is there no doubt but with that comes the ego and stubborn-ness and also downright stupid plays. I think this may also be similar in other Southeast Asian countries where this mindset is prevalent in the gaming sphere. There is also a culture of seniority as with most Asian countries, you have to listen to the "eldest" or most experienced. Anyone could see that Jitboys was by far the best player and also a very smart one at that regardless of his mechanic

I think emotions need to managed and the toxic environment was harbored due to successive losses and having no clear point to blame. Perhaps b0i is too direct and cares only about facts not feelings which affected the players and while I don't think b0i is an insane coach nor player, he still comes from a successful region and has played with top players with top mentalities and knows that a certain professional standard must be held. I think the Thai mindset is also of "Who are you to come in here from NA and boss us around" and then people just refuse to listen. There is no use shitting on people and calling them stupid, if you disagree with how they played civil discussions should be held.

Do you even watch the Thai scene? Just wait till Ascension.

This team has a language barrier and that's painfully obvious. The fundamentals are just ass and when things get rough they're just bashing their heads against a wall. It's time for TALON to become THAILON again. Both Ban and Governor are honestly good individually but something isn't clicking.

sScary it's time to come home. You've sabotaged the competition just as planned, now TALON are guaranteed to not place 11th right?

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They'll pick them up once they advance deep and show stability.

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sScary did not throw shade or hint anything towards other players. He said that their was an issue with team chemistry and that he would transition to the IGL role. He said the whole team looked shaky and played far below the potential. Nowhere did he explicitly call out or hint towards anyone else. Seems like CRAZYGUY is throwing a tantrum on his streams/social media and getting fanboys to boycott his ex teammates.

That's what I don't get. Teammates beef and one of them gets kicked ~ not really a snake move imo.

The org has to pick between sScary or Crazyguy and they made their choice.

Dodonut my Thai qween

There is clashing egos on both sides. Ultimately BLEED picked the player with more Tier 1 Valorant Experience. If you listen to one side only, then you will form a one-sided opinion. Neither side will admit fault and both will claim eachother have egos. That being said, sScary has not explicitly said anything whereas crazyguy has hinted heavily towards the other party. One way or the other, one of the parties have to be removed when the disagreements are unsolvable.

He aint playing if sScary is on the team that's for sure.

sssssssScary fr. However, ultimately if the team chemistry isn't there, something has to change and its either sScary/Yay or Crazyguy/Egoist it seems and I guess management ultimately had to make the tough choice. It's best they do something early so they still have time to iron things out but now sScary has all the pressure along with not speaking fluent English and trying to IGL along with a new Korean addition who also speaks very basic English. This team is either gonna be absolutely amazing or flop so hard.

sScary goes back to TALON and pulls the greatest money heist in history.

If BLEED does well after this, sScary made the right decision. If they play worse or equal, then sScary will get hate for wanting to kick CRAZYGUY. At this point, who knows. I know that sScary and Yay are pretty close but I am a fan of crazyguy. I wish the best for both of them an I hope crazyguy gets signed back to T1 asap.

Have no context or any idea why EGOIST was benched other than perhaps not wanting to work with sScary? I don't think his performance was lackluster either so I 100% it is because they intended on shifting Deryeon to full time sentinel duty and bringing in Zest/Retla to play as the initiators/flex which both are pretty comfortable with. Zest seems like a good upgrade at least on paper but retlA has been on and off BLEED and MY/SG teams so much its hard to believe he's an upgrade aside from his flexibility in agent pool.

Wait actually? Double roster change? Not my GOAT Egoist.

The team definitely has some communication issues since you can see Deryeon satchel in without any supporting util numerous times and then expect someone to push through a smoke to trade him. However, while their game looked sloppy, Yay also just looked lost in general. He never really got great lurk timings nor impact and every time they attacked site with him he was either the first or second to die. Even his defensive half on Jett looked pretty bad but I'm happy he managed to pull it back on the attack at least a little bit.

Yay, Deryeon and Egoist are all fluent 1st language English speakers. English is one of the national languages of Singapore and everyone speaks it fluently (though they may speak Singlish which might be a little hard for Yay to understand). Crazyguy is also very fluent so around 90% and has played on international teams numerous times.

The only player who isn't fluent is sScary but he's had alot of time to gel with the team now and work on his English. This isn't a language barrier issue.

He was never gonna survive on a Pinoy roster and not speak the language. This international TALON is a new chance for him to prove and dedicate himself.

So when's this happenin?

As a Thai, I want to agree and I feel like it's really not hard to make a competitive Thai roster with the amount of talent we have. I think the main thing is just the coaching staff is a little lacking but the mechanics will always be there. However, if TALON does perform this season then ultimately it was a good decision for the org but of course terrible for the Thai fanbase. VALORANT looks like another FPS where Thailand can be competitive just like we have been in RB6, APEX, PUBG among a few others so I would love to have a Thai team to rep. Thailand has always historically been the FPS powerhouse in Southeast Asia but in Valorant it looks like Indonesia is just too damn good.

Governor has the SEA aggression which Yay does not so he slots in very well + existing synergy with Ban and the fact that he can finally play 2nd duelist on this team. Lenne is a hardworker and I wish all the best for him and truly hope he succeeds as an IGL.

I would've liked this to be a Thai majority team but if this can ultimately lead to an internationally competitive roster then so be it. However, if TALON starts underperforming, then the Thai fans have valid reason to be mad at the Thai representative. Regardless, I truly hope FULL SENSE or MiTH can make a miracle run at Pacific Ascension so we can have a proper Thai org in T1. TALON is still an international org and business at heart so they don't really have the incentive to rep the Thai banner.

Is he mid? Or was the team just mid/bad overall. Individuals can easily shine when put into a different environment and roster.

Don't speak about my GOAT Patiphan. Bro went to OW, won a tournament and dipped, played a season of Val and imploded my team and then dipped.

Jokes aside, I think Patiphan genuinely looked decent on the flex role but the team itself looked disjointed. Whether it is due to him coming in or not, we won't know but if the team just limited him to a few agents and didn't try to switch up mid-season, then TALON could've looked decent. I know he has been struggling a bit with his mental health (and physical health in regards to his wrist) for a while so I think the decision to just sit back a bit is great.

P.S. Yay would wind the twerk battle easily, bro got that GYAT.

Ominous talks out of his ass half the time anyway. He probably thought they played against a T2 Indian team and beat them. Besides, he's the analyst not a coach. Had me thinking it was LEGIJA for a second. Still, definitely not racist, he would say the same thing about any T2 team from a minor region.

Indians never beating the cringe allegations

This is a coaching/strat issue more than anything. Yay needs to play with confidence and he can't do that when he's playing roles he's uncomfortable on (of course, I still don't understand the Yay pickup since his hero pool literally aligns with Deryeon's Jett/Chamber speciality). BLEED aren't bad players but this team is not gel-ing the way it should and everyone looks lost and uncomfortable besides perhaps Egoist since he's on sentinel duty.

I still have faith in Crazyguy's IGLing but their gameplan still looks pretty basic and disoriented. I think they have solid mid-rounding too.

Yay - Duelist only ~ if he still can't perform with good supporting util then that's just a player issue at this point (Besides, how bad can his Raze be).
sScary - Controller ~ sScary is known for his lurking playstyle, have him on viper/omen lurk literally makes the most sense
Egoist - Sentinel ~ this dude is solid through and through and he'll only grow with more T1 experience.
Crazyguy ~ IGL/Recon ~ this dude is cracked mechanically but I think today was an off-day and the team looked pretty bad so I can understand how tough it is to still perform while IGLing a losing game.
Deryeon - Flex ~ The guy can flex to controller/initiator as well as 2nd duelist if they need.

It's like, this roster is mechanically cracked but there is just no cohesion or creativity in their strategy. They scrape by with heroics half of the time.

Perhaps biased, but how about you sign garnetS since he's a FA. He can play every duelist under the sun and he has the raw aggression that BLEED seems to want but they aren't able to execute. He also speaks very passable English, more than enough to communicate on an international team. I think BLEED should spend the bag in getting a very good coach and let LEGIJA be AC or just try something different.

garnetS - Duelist
sScary - Controller
Egoist - Sentinel
Crazyguy - IGL
Deryeon - Flex (Jett/Chamber)

Thai fans are petty (me included) for dropping the Thai roster for an international team but their Afreeca TV performance was literally with less than a week of practice. You can still see some traces of shaky comms but overall TLN's trading really impressed me here. Lenne's IGLing and reads have also impressed me and I can see how dedicated he is to this role + I'm happy Crws can finally sit back and play the game without worrying about calling (albeit this game was not really great for him stats-wise).

Ban finally getting to play duelist again and KAYO which is practically a duelist. Governor showing us why he's a ranked demon (we'll see how he performs against opponents that actually shoot back) but as long as he stays confident we'll be chill since his duelist hero pool is also very diverse. Jitboys and Crws ~ what can I say say, they're both such solid players with Jitboys having insane mechanics and Crws having that giga-brain. Last but not least, as long as Lenne can keep calling well and stay calm whilst pulling his own weight then this team looks solid.

I want AAA to do well, they have players I really like.

Real.

Just a fun little tournament with BO1's, hard to gauge the performances of either team but excited to see BLEED in Franchise for sure. Multinational teams are always fun to see and root for and happy to see that while PRX only has one MY player, BLEED comes in as an SG org with 2 SG players.