This guy took a pay cut to join aspas and chase wins, but how realistic is it that this MIBR squad even places in the top 3 of any event?
PRX, T1, FNC, VIT, and NRG are guaranteed to beat them in internationals 90% of the time. And teams like GenG, GX, KC, Navi, G2, DRX, and LEV are able to upset them like 45% of the time.
So what would MIBR chances even be?
gladly blinded by his consistently insane stats proving he's the best in the world
Carried to his only champs win btw
In Toronto, he also had the worst ever rating for a duelist player in franchise history btw
both 1st and 2nd actually! he almost broke the record in the next game
legit 9-5 against an NV with Inspire who whiffed point blank and keznit who is lost, no they aren't lmao.
allg when DFM make it to an international and meiy smokes aspas don't come back crying
And aspas still doesnt have a single trophy in franchising, and even including before franchising, he doesnt have a single mvp😔
irrelevant trash team farmer, cant win when it matters
okay man you can’t be saying all that while your team choked a 11-6, 11-4 and 10-1 lead to not make champs 😭
Yeah i never said GenG were insane in 2025 did I? Their tilt stopped them from winning toronto and making champs.
And somehow, they STILL have a win and a 2nd place finish while aspas has nothing in franchising.
you mean the guy who couldn't keep his sh1t straight against a team like RRQ that got owned by MIBR are we for real
yeah the same guy that diffed asspiss in toronto and caused him to have the worst ever rating in franchise history for a duelist
you mean the same guy that got diffed by jemkin who then got diffed by Aspas later on we all know that performance was a team issue and when they fixed that they got top 5 in champs where were GhostG in champs?
aspas? the same guy who NEVER won a trophy in franchising or even got higher than top 3?
aspas? the same guy with no MVP?
You've basically decided that aspas is going to carry every team he's on to a win?
Well explain me this, why didn't lev 24 win champs, why didnt 25 mibr win.
Not saying getting top 4 is bad. Just saying, why couldn't these teams win, its not like aspas wasnt carrying them before.
And mibr 26... You've basically done a vitality 25 all over again, and we know how that party went.
Superteams dont autowin. Teams that work together and know how yo play the way they want TOGETHER win.
You can carry regionals, but you cant carry international wins
Why do u need to know who I am? Do u know every person u talk to on this site
-patmen +invy is the only move that they could have ever done to improve their team in any way. And they made it happen.
I dont like PRX that much, but they are scary
invy is one of the best players in pacific (the best region)
he will smoke every team from other regions
z0kk0n really took a paycut to join the greatest player of all time who plays the same role as him, goes to show he's really not that guy
so if he stays at sen, hes chasing the bag, but if he joins a team that he thinks has potential, hes chasing wins?
If he stays at sen, he is loyal
If he leaves to another team where he doesnt have to take a pay cut to join a player that is better than him on the same role, and has to fold and change roles, he is a normal player.
loyal my ass the team was falling off a cliff and they were never going to rebuild with players of zekken’s skill level. it makes sense for physical sports cause you can have a 15 year long career at the highest level, in esports its like 7
Potential world beaters, i highly doubt they are gonna work out, but im js using them since they are a super team on paper
Zekken literally turned from a star duelist in Sen, to Aspas's pet , like even if MIBR wins a tournament ( which is a pretty hard "IF" ) his value as a player won't be the same as it used to be when he was in SEN carrying the team. When Tenz played smokes, he was still TENZ and playing Tenz style, but it feels like Zekken is a completely different person right now playing a very tamed Zekken.
Oh yeah wanna talk about Astra? did you see how Ethan played Astra last game? making one ways, stuns and sucks to fight and get kills, He was holding B by himself , meanwhile Zekken stayed in one corner, PRAYING FOR VERNO AND MAZINO to save him from the rush. Astra isn't a tamed agent, it is a playstyle thing and Zekken's play style is playing for his team only, which isn't wrong but all i'm saying is , THIS ISN'T THE ZEKKEN WE KNEW. He is afraid of taking duels and trying to make any plays. People downvoting don't understand that i'm not hating on Zekken, I feel bad that this is the Zekken we will see for the rest of the season.
tenz was almost always on omen tho, yk omen has the tp's that can aid an aggressive playstyle
Downvoted for telling the truth. People cant handle based takes.
Zekken folded instantly to aspas’s cock. Literally switched his role, AND took a pay cut.
Obviously im not serious abt the % chances. Its just to get my point across.
Why are we assuming he’s getting paid less?
SEN are not a particularly loaded org
Im 99% sure he took a pay cut. There is absolutely no way MIBR are paying Aspas, mazino, verno, and zekken their usual salary with no winnings and no sponsors.
I know they got a gambling sponsor recently, but zekken joined before then, so he must have taken a pay cut initially.
Never underestimated gambling money. I said BEFORE they got the sponsor, he took a paycut. Also, MIBR are a small org with no other success in any game.
MIBR have been running for like 10 years, and why do you think you NEED to have the money to pay someone immediately? MIBR coulda had that sponsorship signed already and they j didn’t announce it before the zekken announcement
So you are just assuming. YOU know nothing about money im guessing.
Being ran for long doesnt equate to anything. Their biggest success was top 4 at champs. In csgo, they had some top 3 and 4 finishes, but only at IEM’s and a single major in 2018.
They were not a successful org in the slightest until the 1xbet sponsor.
Winning does not equate to more money automatically, most of the prize money goes back to the players, even if the org gets a cut. Sponsors are the backbone of an organization and MIBR def have the current sponsors to back large contracts
I know. But to get sponsors, you need to be somewhat successful, why else do you think their valorant team got a sponsor after getting 4th?
My brotha as long as an org has visibility they will get sponsors, 100T has done jackshit in esports and one gambling sponsor got them a CS team lol
The HUGE difference between those two orgs is content.
100 Thieves have some of the biggest content creators in NA, valkyrae, nadeshot, courageJD, and even fucking Drake has a piece of them.
Who does MIBR have? Sacy? Thats it?
Funny how yall believe he took a “paycut” lmaoo do you even guys know how much he received as a sign in bonus?
No, but MIBR are a small org with nowhere near enough money to sign and keep their current roster (before the 1xbet sponsor)
He took a pay cut to play with aspas initially, and then he prob got payed normally when they got the sponsor.
With that logic, let me guess, you’re one of those folks who also believed Bleed was a “rich” org to afford yay and all that? People have no idea of the actual money, vcs, incentives, assets, companies and orgs have.
??? Bleed was literally an org that js took loans buddy😭✌️
They werent known in any other game.
Also please explain how MIBR were wealthy enough to sign their current team BEFORE the sponsor. Since you know so much more about money and companies, this should be easy. Mind you, MIBR have no success in any game aside from their top 4 at champs.
Vitality isn't that good. mibr don't fk around like newer teams nerves can get em...I get nervous just going to university everyday imagine at pro level?
These mfs don't know a single thing about MIBR and think they are poor, did you not know that they were bought by 100M?
Thats why they are paying a lot to their players?
MIBR has never been more rich.
If you looked at a single reply, I KNOW THEY HAVE A SPONSOR.
Zekken was in talks BEFORE the sponsor. This means he was WILLING to take a pay cut.
T1 are objectively a very good team. Munchkin is a top 3 igl in the world, and he is a very good fragger.
Stax is just a good scan ini that can clutch
Izu is one of the best yoru’s in the world
Buzz is one of the best duelists in the world
And meteor is the best pressure fragger and senti in the world
VIT on paper is a good team, but i do doubt they will do well.
T1 is good on paper, and they were good on paper all of last year. Yet they fluked after first tourney of the year. There has not been a significant enough of change to quantify the possibility that they will be good again. I am extremely happy and willing to be proven wrong.
Vitality have done terrible recently, and these roster changes does not change that opinion.
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They are just good. good on paper, and in the server (at least off season)
you will see, I dont like them as a team, but even I admit they are insane.
Once fRod wakes up slaps mazino on smokes and treats zekken as a pure flex, while we then see tex flop and they pick up a better sentinel maybe we see them place top 3 internationally and that too consistently
definitely.
zekken on pure smokes is the worst decision anyone could have ever made. Zekken was literally a top 2 duelist in americas, and before then he was a top 5 flex
lowk shondex clears Tex.
just need to see
Aspas (Duelist)
Zekken (Flex)
Mazino (Smokes)
Shondex (Sentinel)
Verno (Recon [IGL])
Why are we glazing Vitality so quickly? I think they'll be very good at worst but an international trophy contender is going too far right now
on paper they are the best EMEA team. I only put them on there to further my point.
I do think they will bomb out personally, but they have insane potential
GX were a consistently good team at the end of last year. They were world beaters, but nerves got to ara and he couldnt perform.
NaVi are just a good team this year.
LEV with neon are a dangerous team that could do some real damage at even internationals
KC, this team WOULD have been good if Lewn and sheydos turned their monitors on.
also you dont have vct knowledge if you blindly glaze MIBR.
Holy Vit sneak Chron is a fraud we're gonna see that this year.Also sure I agree Fnatic, PRX, GenG, NRG, and G2 beats MIBR at least that's how I'll predict their match but if LEV can reach top 3 in champs in 2024 and MIBR can reach top 5 in champs last year who am I to doubt them but it's too early to say right now we have to wait and see how they do against NRG first. To be honest Zekken on Flex makes more sense if they play double duelist with him Zekken can take first engagements more than Aspas and unlike Artzin who kept dying I think Zekken can win a lot of them that would give Aspas more freedom to play like he wants too but who knows what frod is cooking
Yeah u r right. I should not have added VIT. They are looking like DOGSHIT in their game against ULF. Even with their sub i can tell they will lose every game against a better team. 😔
this is still one of the worst threads i’ve seen on this site
op’s arguments are pure guesses made to push his agenda against mibr because he doesn’t like aspas
it’s insane how vlr gives attention to this kind of crazy people, maybe that’s the fun of this site
"op" this aint reddit bro✌️
"crazy" when you know im damn right LOL
MIBR aint winning anything this year, let alone a regional trophy
https://en.amazingtalker.com/questions/1782
“op” has nothing to do with reddit, it’s just an abbreviation, dumbass.
no one is clicking on the link bro✌️
also, OP is used nowhere else except reddit
it's like I'm talking to a brick wall. MIBR had 4 rookies GEN G had 3 masters champions you can't change the fact that T3xture had a better squad still got owned by a team Aspas went +22 against with 4 rookies t3xture went -15 btw dropping a stinker against RRQ in their last game of the season I just don't know what your point is you talk as if T3xture has been doing insane stuff or anything lol Aspas clears him in personal stats Aspas also clears him in trophies since Champs trophy is bigger than Masters you just have no point so you're making it seems like that MIBR squad was somehow stronger than the GENG that had 3 masters champions really?
so Toronto doesnt exist? Aspas got hard diffed by t3xture LOL
Also, Yes, GenG choked. I never said they didnt. All im saying is MIBR was in the same situation as GenG, but only got into champs due to Americas being the only region that does tiebreaker differently.
And, T3xture and the others did fall off, i agree. They dont have the hunger anymore it seems, but in 2024 and before playoffs toronto, T3xture was a better duelist.
if you say that t3xture was the best duelist in Masters shanghai yes he was but after that he wasn't in Champs 2024 it was KK. Aspas dragged LEV to top 3 losing only to TH and EDG. my point is T3xture needs Gen G or a similar team to pull out numbers while Aspas was doing it in Loud he did it in LEV and he's doing it in MIBR so no t3xture was never the better duelist he was in Masters Shanghai but that's it
Kaplan initially had the idea of putting zekken on smokes this year, but it was zekken's decision to either smoke for narrate or aspas. Anybody with a right mind would choose the latter.
Kaplan wanted to experiment this year, what you see reddux is playing now (omen , yoru ) probably Zekken would have been in that spot. he wanted to try the sen 2024 formula of moving tenz to omen kinda shit.
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