This guy took a pay cut to join aspas and chase wins, but how realistic is it that this MIBR squad even places in the top 3 of any event?
PRX, T1, FNC, VIT, and NRG are guaranteed to beat them in internationals 90% of the time. And teams like GenG, GX, KC, Navi, G2, DRX, and LEV are able to upset them like 45% of the time.
So what would MIBR chances even be?
z0kk0n really took a paycut to join the greatest player of all time who plays the same role as him, goes to show he's really not that guy
so if he stays at sen, hes chasing the bag, but if he joins a team that he thinks has potential, hes chasing wins?
Zekken literally turned from a star duelist in Sen, to Aspas's pet , like even if MIBR wins a tournament ( which is a pretty hard "IF" ) his value as a player won't be the same as it used to be when he was in SEN carrying the team. When Tenz played smokes, he was still TENZ and playing Tenz style, but it feels like Zekken is a completely different person right now playing a very tamed Zekken.
Markengar [#8]Zekken literally turned from a star duelist in Sen, to Aspas's pet , like even if MIBR wins a tournament ( which is a pretty hard "IF" ) his value as a player won't be the same as it used to be when he was in SEN carrying the team. When Tenz played smokes, he was still TENZ and playing Tenz style, but it feels like Zekken is a completely different person right now playing a very tamed Zekken.
well he’s on astra
scorn47 [#3]where are you getting these chances from
out of his ass
Markengar [#8]Zekken literally turned from a star duelist in Sen, to Aspas's pet , like even if MIBR wins a tournament ( which is a pretty hard "IF" ) his value as a player won't be the same as it used to be when he was in SEN carrying the team. When Tenz played smokes, he was still TENZ and playing Tenz style, but it feels like Zekken is a completely different person right now playing a very tamed Zekken.
we haven’t even seen a HALF yet bro
Markengar [#8]Zekken literally turned from a star duelist in Sen, to Aspas's pet , like even if MIBR wins a tournament ( which is a pretty hard "IF" ) his value as a player won't be the same as it used to be when he was in SEN carrying the team. When Tenz played smokes, he was still TENZ and playing Tenz style, but it feels like Zekken is a completely different person right now playing a very tamed Zekken.
he'll be completely different on omen
astra is a very tamed agent
Why are we assuming he’s getting paid less?
SEN are not a particularly loaded org
Markengar [#8]Zekken literally turned from a star duelist in Sen, to Aspas's pet , like even if MIBR wins a tournament ( which is a pretty hard "IF" ) his value as a player won't be the same as it used to be when he was in SEN carrying the team. When Tenz played smokes, he was still TENZ and playing Tenz style, but it feels like Zekken is a completely different person right now playing a very tamed Zekken.
tenz was almost always on omen tho, yk omen has the tp's that can aid an aggressive playstyle
chinesesalesmen [#13]out of his ass
Precisely.
My ass is usually correct tho
foythvlr [#2]MIBR is better than all mentioned
Avg brazil fan blinded by aspas’s stats
jerry34 [#4]PRX insane sneak
-patmen +invy is the only move that they could have ever done to improve their team in any way. And they made it happen.
I dont like PRX that much, but they are scary
foythvlr [#2]MIBR is better than all mentioned
based on what??? how mibr better than champions NRG or PRX?
jerry34 [#4]PRX insane sneak
invy is one of the best players in pacific (the best region)
he will smoke every team from other regions
Wolfed [#24]based on what??? how mibr better than champions NRG or PRX?
Trust me bro
aquaa018s_alterego [#6]so if he stays at sen, hes chasing the bag, but if he joins a team that he thinks has potential, hes chasing wins?
If he stays at sen, he is loyal
If he leaves to another team where he doesnt have to take a pay cut to join a player that is better than him on the same role, and has to fold and change roles, he is a normal player.
catNmouse [#7]holy VIT sneak
Potential world beaters, i highly doubt they are gonna work out, but im js using them since they are a super team on paper
foythvlr [#2]MIBR is better than all mentioned
legit 9-5 against an NV with Inspire who whiffed point blank and keznit who is lost, no they aren't lmao.
Markengar [#8]Zekken literally turned from a star duelist in Sen, to Aspas's pet , like even if MIBR wins a tournament ( which is a pretty hard "IF" ) his value as a player won't be the same as it used to be when he was in SEN carrying the team. When Tenz played smokes, he was still TENZ and playing Tenz style, but it feels like Zekken is a completely different person right now playing a very tamed Zekken.
Downvoted for telling the truth. People cant handle based takes.
Zekken folded instantly to aspas’s cock. Literally switched his role, AND took a pay cut.
hoboclap [#21]Avg brazil fan blinded by aspas’s stats
gladly blinded by his consistently insane stats proving he's the best in the world
Revlo [#31]legit 9-5 against an NV with Inspire who whiffed point blank and keznit who is lost, no they aren't lmao.
They are
Marii [#10]Bro made up math in his head
Obviously im not serious abt the % chances. Its just to get my point across.
tv0rusluke [#11]FNC sneak they got v0k0j lil bro
Kajaak can backpack the whole team
foythvlr [#2]MIBR is better than all mentioned
last time I checked this so called MIBR got smoked by t3xture and penny
foythvlr [#35]They are
should've won 13-2 tbh, nrg or g2 dont give up 5 to this NV
ronaldinhoooooooooooo [#12]i thought he joined bc the contract was crazy??
Nah he took a pay cut
delighted [#38]last time I checked this so called MIBR got smoked by t3xture and penny
Who
foythvlr [#41]Who
t3xture is GEN.G's best player, who gapped aspas in toronto
Revlo [#39]should've won 13-2 tbh, nrg or g2 dont give up 5 to this NV
NRG almost gave a map to C9
delighted [#42]t3xture is GEN.G's best player, who gapped aspas in toronto
dont care about irrelevant people sorry
foythvlr [#44]dont care about irrelevant people sorry
allg when DFM make it to an international and meiy smokes aspas don't come back crying
foythvlr [#43]NRG almost gave a map to C9
c9 genuinely gaps NV, NV is so bad.
delighted [#45]allg when DFM make it to an international and meiy smokes aspas don't come back crying
Who
Docta [#17]Why are we assuming he’s getting paid less?
SEN are not a particularly loaded org
Im 99% sure he took a pay cut. There is absolutely no way MIBR are paying Aspas, mazino, verno, and zekken their usual salary with no winnings and no sponsors.
I know they got a gambling sponsor recently, but zekken joined before then, so he must have taken a pay cut initially.
Jajajajajajjah [#33]waste of talent i guess
top5 world duelist to top100 controller
Yup, folded instantly to aspas.
hellfire [#34]gladly blinded by his consistently insane stats proving he's the best in the world
Carried to his only champs win btw
In Toronto, he also had the worst ever rating for a duelist player in franchise history btw
hoboclap [#48]Im 99% sure he took a pay cut. There is absolutely no way MIBR are paying Aspas, mazino, verno, and zekken their usual salary with no winnings and no sponsors.
I know they got a gambling sponsor recently, but zekken joined before then, so he must have taken a pay cut initially.
You underestimate gambling money and how big MIBR as an org is
foythvlr [#44]dont care about irrelevant people sorry
Has an mvp while aspas doesnt even have a win in franchising btw
Docta [#51]You underestimate gambling money and how big MIBR as an org is
Never underestimated gambling money. I said BEFORE they got the sponsor, he took a paycut. Also, MIBR are a small org with no other success in any game.
hoboclap [#50]Carried to his only champs win btw
In Toronto, he also had the worst ever rating for a duelist player in franchise history btw
and went on to have the single best champs performance ever
hellfire [#54]and went on to have the single best champs performance ever
both 1st and 2nd actually! he almost broke the record in the next game
hellfire [#54]and went on to have the single best champs performance ever
So hes mid.
Worst ever rating in franchising + best rating at champs = 0
hoboclap [#52]Has an mvp while aspas doesnt even have a win in franchising btw
dont care about fluke tourneys sorry
foythvlr [#57]dont care about fluke tourneys sorry
And aspas still doesnt have a single trophy in franchising, and even including before franchising, he doesnt have a single mvp😔
irrelevant trash team farmer, cant win when it matters
Funny how yall believe he took a “paycut” lmaoo do you even guys know how much he received as a sign in bonus?
catNmouse [#9]well he’s on astra
Oh yeah wanna talk about Astra? did you see how Ethan played Astra last game? making one ways, stuns and sucks to fight and get kills, He was holding B by himself , meanwhile Zekken stayed in one corner, PRAYING FOR VERNO AND MAZINO to save him from the rush. Astra isn't a tamed agent, it is a playstyle thing and Zekken's play style is playing for his team only, which isn't wrong but all i'm saying is , THIS ISN'T THE ZEKKEN WE KNEW. He is afraid of taking duels and trying to make any plays. People downvoting don't understand that i'm not hating on Zekken, I feel bad that this is the Zekken we will see for the rest of the season.
hoboclap [#58]And aspas still doesnt have a single trophy in franchising, and even including before franchising, he doesnt have a single mvp😔
irrelevant trash team farmer, cant win when it matters
hoes mad
hoboclap [#58]And aspas still doesnt have a single trophy in franchising, and even including before franchising, he doesnt have a single mvp😔
irrelevant trash team farmer, cant win when it matters
okay man you can’t be saying all that while your team choked a 11-6, 11-4 and 10-1 lead to not make champs 😭
Bhrubby [#59]Funny how yall believe he took a “paycut” lmaoo do you even guys know how much he received as a sign in bonus?
No, but MIBR are a small org with nowhere near enough money to sign and keep their current roster (before the 1xbet sponsor)
He took a pay cut to play with aspas initially, and then he prob got payed normally when they got the sponsor.
hoboclap [#56]So hes mid.
Worst ever rating in franchising + best rating at champs = 0
tf is this math my man
catNmouse [#62]okay man you can’t be saying all that while your team choked a 11-6, 11-4 and 10-1 lead to not make champs 😭
Yeah i never said GenG were insane in 2025 did I? Their tilt stopped them from winning toronto and making champs.
And somehow, they STILL have a win and a 2nd place finish while aspas has nothing in franchising.
hoboclap [#63]No, but MIBR are a small org with nowhere near enough money to sign and keep their current roster (before the 1xbet sponsor)
He took a pay cut to play with aspas initially, and then he prob got payed normally when they got the sponsor.
With that logic, let me guess, you’re one of those folks who also believed Bleed was a “rich” org to afford yay and all that? People have no idea of the actual money, vcs, incentives, assets, companies and orgs have.
Bhrubby [#68]With that logic, let me guess, you’re one of those folks who also believed Bleed was a “rich” org to afford yay and all that? People have no idea of the actual money, vcs, incentives, assets, companies and orgs have.
??? Bleed was literally an org that js took loans buddy😭✌️
They werent known in any other game.
Also please explain how MIBR were wealthy enough to sign their current team BEFORE the sponsor. Since you know so much more about money and companies, this should be easy. Mind you, MIBR have no success in any game aside from their top 4 at champs.
hoboclap [#53]Never underestimated gambling money. I said BEFORE they got the sponsor, he took a paycut. Also, MIBR are a small org with no other success in any game.
MIBR have been running for like 10 years, and why do you think you NEED to have the money to pay someone immediately? MIBR coulda had that sponsorship signed already and they j didn’t announce it before the zekken announcement
Docta [#70]MIBR have been running for like 10 years, and why do you think you NEED to have the money to pay someone immediately? MIBR coulda had that sponsorship signed already and they j didn’t announce it before the zekken announcement
So you are just assuming. YOU know nothing about money im guessing.
Being ran for long doesnt equate to anything. Their biggest success was top 4 at champs. In csgo, they had some top 3 and 4 finishes, but only at IEM’s and a single major in 2018.
They were not a successful org in the slightest until the 1xbet sponsor.
hoboclap [#71]So you are just assuming. YOU know nothing about money im guessing.
Being ran for long doesnt equate to anything. Their biggest success was top 4 at champs. In csgo, they had some top 3 and 4 finishes, but only at IEM’s and a single major in 2018.
They were not a successful org in the slightest until the 1xbet sponsor.
Winning does not equate to more money automatically, most of the prize money goes back to the players, even if the org gets a cut. Sponsors are the backbone of an organization and MIBR def have the current sponsors to back large contracts
Docta [#72]Winning does not equate to more money automatically, most of the prize money goes back to the players, even if the org gets a cut. Sponsors are the backbone of an organization and MIBR def have the current sponsors to back large contracts
I know. But to get sponsors, you need to be somewhat successful, why else do you think their valorant team got a sponsor after getting 4th?
hoboclap [#73]I know. But to get sponsors, you need to be somewhat successful, why else do you think their valorant team got a sponsor after getting 4th?
My brotha as long as an org has visibility they will get sponsors, 100T has done jackshit in esports and one gambling sponsor got them a CS team lol
Docta [#74]My brotha as long as an org has visibility they will get sponsors, 100T has done jackshit in esports and one gambling sponsor got them a CS team lol
The HUGE difference between those two orgs is content.
100 Thieves have some of the biggest content creators in NA, valkyrae, nadeshot, courageJD, and even fucking Drake has a piece of them.
Who does MIBR have? Sacy? Thats it?
Vitality isn't that good. mibr don't fk around like newer teams nerves can get em...I get nervous just going to university everyday imagine at pro level?
hoboclap [#75]The HUGE difference between those two orgs is content.
100 Thieves have some of the biggest content creators in NA, valkyrae, nadeshot, courageJD, and even fucking Drake has a piece of them.
Who does MIBR have? Sacy? Thats it?
But I mean at the end of the day you’re arguing that MIBR doesn’t have the money to pay its players, clearly gambling sponsors are paying well, so it’s very likely that theyre able to pay their players large contracts
1gdez1 [#76]Vitality isn't that good. mibr don't fk around like newer teams nerves can get em...I get nervous just going to university everyday imagine at pro level?
What the fuck are you even trying to say bro✌️
delighted [#45]allg when DFM make it to an international and meiy smokes aspas don't come back crying
ok bro
DFM make it to an international
Revlo [#46]c9 genuinely gaps NV, NV is so bad.
https://www.vlr.gg/post/5884223/americas-kickoff-predictions
sudden change of heart, huh?
Hyxagon [#80]https://www.vlr.gg/post/5884223/americas-kickoff-predictions
sudden change of heart, huh?
LMAO
These mfs don't know a single thing about MIBR and think they are poor, did you not know that they were bought by 100M?
Thats why they are paying a lot to their players?
MIBR has never been more rich.
Hyssopus1 [#82]These mfs don't know a single thing about MIBR and think they are poor, did you not know that they were bought by 100M?
Thats why they are paying a lot to their players?
MIBR has never been more rich.
If you looked at a single reply, I KNOW THEY HAVE A SPONSOR.
Zekken was in talks BEFORE the sponsor. This means he was WILLING to take a pay cut.
Hyxagon [#80]https://www.vlr.gg/post/5884223/americas-kickoff-predictions
sudden change of heart, huh?
yes? thats why they're called predictions lmao
Ross [#85]Brother put T1 and Vitality, thats hillarious.
T1 are objectively a very good team. Munchkin is a top 3 igl in the world, and he is a very good fragger.
Stax is just a good scan ini that can clutch
Izu is one of the best yoru’s in the world
Buzz is one of the best duelists in the world
And meteor is the best pressure fragger and senti in the world
VIT on paper is a good team, but i do doubt they will do well.
hoboclap [#86]T1 are objectively a very good team. Munchkin is a top 3 igl in the world, and he is a very good fragger.
Stax is just a good scan ini that can clutch
Izu is one of the best yoru’s in the world
Buzz is one of the best duelists in the world
And meteor is the best pressure fragger and senti in the world
VIT on paper is a good team, but i do doubt they will do well.
T1 is good on paper, and they were good on paper all of last year. Yet they fluked after first tourney of the year. There has not been a significant enough of change to quantify the possibility that they will be good again. I am extremely happy and willing to be proven wrong.
Vitality have done terrible recently, and these roster changes does not change that opinion.
Once fRod wakes up slaps mazino on smokes and treats zekken as a pure flex, while we then see tex flop and they pick up a better sentinel maybe we see them place top 3 internationally and that too consistently
Ross [#87]T1 is good on paper, and they were good on paper all of last year. Yet they fluked after first tourney of the year. There has not been a significant enough of change to quantify the possibility that they will be good again. I am extremely happy and willing to be proven wrong.
Vitality have done terrible recently, and these roster changes does not change that opinion.
...
They are just good. good on paper, and in the server (at least off season)
you will see, I dont like them as a team, but even I admit they are insane.
Raize1 [#88]Once fRod wakes up slaps mazino on smokes and treats zekken as a pure flex, while we then see tex flop and they pick up a better sentinel maybe we see them place top 3 internationally and that too consistently
definitely.
zekken on pure smokes is the worst decision anyone could have ever made. Zekken was literally a top 2 duelist in americas, and before then he was a top 5 flex
Why are we glazing Vitality so quickly? I think they'll be very good at worst but an international trophy contender is going too far right now
charleser [#91]Why are we glazing Vitality so quickly? I think they'll be very good at worst but an international trophy contender is going too far right now
on paper they are the best EMEA team. I only put them on there to further my point.
I do think they will bomb out personally, but they have insane potential
hoboclap [#90]definitely.
zekken on pure smokes is the worst decision anyone could have ever made. Zekken was literally a top 2 duelist in americas, and before then he was a top 5 flex
lowk shondex clears Tex.
just need to see
Aspas (Duelist)
Zekken (Flex)
Mazino (Smokes)
Shondex (Sentinel)
Verno (Recon [IGL])
hoboclap [#52]Has an mvp while aspas doesnt even have a win in franchising btw
you mean the guy who couldn't keep his sh1t straight against a team like RRQ that got owned by MIBR are we for real
Punish3rlp [#94]you mean the guy who couldn't keep his sh1t straight against a team like RRQ that got owned by MIBR are we for real
yeah the same guy that diffed asspiss in toronto and caused him to have the worst ever rating in franchise history for a duelist
Holy Vit sneak Chron is a fraud we're gonna see that this year.Also sure I agree Fnatic, PRX, GenG, NRG, and G2 beats MIBR at least that's how I'll predict their match but if LEV can reach top 3 in champs in 2024 and MIBR can reach top 5 in champs last year who am I to doubt them but it's too early to say right now we have to wait and see how they do against NRG first. To be honest Zekken on Flex makes more sense if they play double duelist with him Zekken can take first engagements more than Aspas and unlike Artzin who kept dying I think Zekken can win a lot of them that would give Aspas more freedom to play like he wants too but who knows what frod is cooking
hoboclap [#95]yeah the same guy that diffed asspiss in toronto and caused him to have the worst ever rating in franchise history for a duelist
you mean the same guy that got diffed by jemkin who then got diffed by Aspas later on we all know that performance was a team issue and when they fixed that they got top 5 in champs where were GhostG in champs?
Punish3rlp [#99]you mean the same guy that got diffed by jemkin who then got diffed by Aspas later on we all know that performance was a team issue and when they fixed that they got top 5 in champs where were GhostG in champs?
aspas? the same guy who NEVER won a trophy in franchising or even got higher than top 3?
aspas? the same guy with no MVP?
Zyro007_ [#97]Bro GX LEV KC NAVI has 45% chance u watch vct from p0rnhub or wot
GX were a consistently good team at the end of last year. They were world beaters, but nerves got to ara and he couldnt perform.
NaVi are just a good team this year.
LEV with neon are a dangerous team that could do some real damage at even internationals
KC, this team WOULD have been good if Lewn and sheydos turned their monitors on.
also you dont have vct knowledge if you blindly glaze MIBR.
hoboclap [#101]GX were a consistently good team at the end of last year. They were world beaters, but nerves got to ara and he couldnt perform.
NaVi are just a good team this year.
LEV with neon are a dangerous team that could do some real damage at even internationals
KC, this team WOULD have been good if Lewn and sheydos turned their monitors on.
also you dont have vct knowledge if you blindly glaze MIBR.
First of all they have to make it to the internationals to beat MIBR😭
Doinurmum [#106]VIT hmmmm hmmmmm
Yeah u r right. I should not have added VIT. They are looking like DOGSHIT in their game against ULF. Even with their sub i can tell they will lose every game against a better team. 😔
hoboclap [#100]aspas? the same guy who NEVER won a trophy in franchising or even got higher than top 3?
aspas? the same guy with no MVP?
Please check again who had the Champs MVP where is T3xture's champs Trophy btw? still waiting same guy who made it to top 5 of champs with a team like MIBR while your GhostG was nowhere to be seen? lol got owned by RRQ sh1t team
Punish3rlp [#109]Please check again who had the Champs MVP where is T3xture's champs Trophy btw? still waiting same guy who made it to top 5 of champs with a team like MIBR while your GhostG was nowhere to be seen? lol got owned by RRQ sh1t team
Pancada was the true mvp btw.
also, shit team and MIBR in the same sentence? what universe are you living in where MIBR was a bad team?
Artzin was a good role player that frags, all be it inconsistently.
Cortezia is a very good senti and one of the best even in his rookie year last year.
Verno was just a very mechanically skilled scan ini with good game knowledge, and was a pretty good IGL at the end of the year.
And Xenom was the only weak link.
Also, MIBR was owned by KRU and LEV in stage 2 group stage. The only reason they made champs was because Americas has a different tie breaker than other regions. (they barely qualified over C9 LOLLLL)
hoboclap [#110]Pancada was the true mvp btw.
also, shit team and MIBR in the same sentence? what universe are you living in where MIBR was a bad team?
Artzin was a good role player that frags, all be it inconsistently.
Cortezia is a very good senti and one of the best even in his rookie year last year.
Verno was just a very mechanically skilled scan ini with good game knowledge, and was a pretty good IGL at the end of the year.
And Xenom was the only weak link.Also, MIBR was owned by KRU and LEV in stage 2 group stage. The only reason they made champs was because Americas has a different tie breaker than other regions. (they barely qualified over C9 LOLLLL)
oh the T3xture that got diffed by Meiy and got owned by DFM LOLLLL got owned by a team that was one of the worst team last year at least MIBR won when t3xture wins a champs then we can talk right now he's getting owned by a player like Meiy
Punish3rlp [#111]oh the T3xture that got diffed by Meiy and got owned by DFM LOLLLL got owned by a team that was one of the worst team last year at least MIBR won when t3xture wins a champs then we can talk right now he's getting owned by a player like Meiy
“Diffed by meiy” acting as if thats a crazy insult✌️😭 meiy is one of the best duelists in the world but has his talents wasted in DFM.
Also aspas can only talk when he wins an official mvp✌️😭
hoboclap [#112]“Diffed by meiy” acting as if thats a crazy insult✌️😭 meiy is one of the best duelists in the world but has his talents wasted in DFM.
Also aspas can only talk when he wins an official mvp✌️😭
he won an official fking MVP in Champs 22 were you deaf back then or blind what is your definition of official MVP how do you think T3xture won MVP in Masters shanghai also we all know Meteor was the better player in the tournament and without Meteor your favorite team has been irrelevant btw still is losing to DFM lol
Punish3rlp [#113]he won an official fking MVP in Champs 22 were you deaf back then or blind what is your definition of official MVP how do you think T3xture won MVP in Masters shanghai also we all know Meteor was the better player in the tournament and without Meteor your favorite team has been irrelevant btw still is losing to DFM lol
if you say meteor was better the whole of the event, then pancada should have been 2022 mvp, and sacy should have been finals mvp.
(but even with your logic, t3xture was better the whole event and throughout the year)
t3xture was the best duelist of 2024, even in the opinion of ardiis, FNS, and others
hoboclap [#114]if you say meteor was better the whole of the event, then pancada should have been 2022 mvp, and sacy should have been finals mvp.
(but even with your logic, t3xture was better the whole event and throughout the year)
t3xture was the best duelist of 2024, even in the opinion of ardiis, FNS, and others
Aspas won the 2024 best duelist award as well so I don't see why do you think that the MVP T3xture won was official and the Aspas won wasn't also FNS says that Aspas is the Goat and the best player do you believe his opinion too on this one
Punish3rlp [#115]Aspas won the 2024 best duelist award as well so I don't see why do you think that the MVP T3xture won was official and the Aspas won wasn't also FNS says that Aspas is the Goat and the best player do you believe his opinion too on this one
The awards dont mean shit bro, everyone knows this.
Riot pushes agendas heavy
Also, being the goat of longevity doesnt mean shit if you cant win
hoboclap [#116]The awards dont mean shit bro, everyone knows this.
Riot pushes agendas heavy
Also, being the goat of longevity doesnt mean shit if you cant win
the same award you were glazing that T3xture won now don't means sh1t so it seems things means a lot when it pushes your agenda other than that they are useless ironic you accused Riot of pushing agendas also you are acting like T3xture won thousands of trophies in his career lol the only trophy he won was when he had Meteor who was a demon back then too don't reply because you just proved you're a hypocrite who is arguing for the sake of arguing accept it you just hate Aspas for nothing that's why you're too blind to accept that he is the best Player stats proves it Trophies are a team thing because if trophies determined who was the goat then Ethan is the goat
hoboclap [#28]If he stays at sen, he is loyal
If he leaves to another team where he doesnt have to take a pay cut to join a player that is better than him on the same role, and has to fold and change roles, he is a normal player.
loyal my ass the team was falling off a cliff and they were never going to rebuild with players of zekken’s skill level. it makes sense for physical sports cause you can have a 15 year long career at the highest level, in esports its like 7
Punish3rlp [#117]the same award you were glazing that T3xture won now don't means sh1t so it seems things means a lot when it pushes your agenda other than that they are useless ironic you accused Riot of pushing agendas also you are acting like T3xture won thousands of trophies in his career lol the only trophy he won was when he had Meteor who was a demon back then too don't reply because you just proved you're a hypocrite who is arguing for the sake of arguing accept it you just hate Aspas for nothing that's why you're too blind to accept that he is the best Player stats proves it Trophies are a team thing because if trophies determined who was the goat then Ethan is the goat
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this is still one of the worst threads i’ve seen on this site
op’s arguments are pure guesses made to push his agenda against mibr because he doesn’t like aspas
it’s insane how vlr gives attention to this kind of crazy people, maybe that’s the fun of this site
Asto3 [#120]this is still one of the worst threads i’ve seen on this site
op’s arguments are pure guesses made to push his agenda against mibr because he doesn’t like aspas
it’s insane how vlr gives attention to this kind of crazy people, maybe that’s the fun of this site
"op" this aint reddit bro✌️
"crazy" when you know im damn right LOL
MIBR aint winning anything this year, let alone a regional trophy
hoboclap [#121]"op" this aint reddit bro✌️
"crazy" when you know im damn right LOL
MIBR aint winning anything this year, let alone a regional trophy
https://en.amazingtalker.com/questions/1782
“op” has nothing to do with reddit, it’s just an abbreviation, dumbass.
Punish3rlp [#117]the same award you were glazing that T3xture won now don't means sh1t so it seems things means a lot when it pushes your agenda other than that they are useless ironic you accused Riot of pushing agendas also you are acting like T3xture won thousands of trophies in his career lol the only trophy he won was when he had Meteor who was a demon back then too don't reply because you just proved you're a hypocrite who is arguing for the sake of arguing accept it you just hate Aspas for nothing that's why you're too blind to accept that he is the best Player stats proves it Trophies are a team thing because if trophies determined who was the goat then Ethan is the goat
stats prove that he had the worst performance ever for a duelist in franchise history, other than that it says he is 3-4 place when he isnt carried by pancada or sacy.
Also, arguing for the sake of arguing is the whole essence of this site buddy, if you dont like the engagement bait, click off you neurodivergent ape.
Asto3 [#122]https://en.amazingtalker.com/questions/1782
“op” has nothing to do with reddit, it’s just an abbreviation, dumbass.
no one is clicking on the link bro✌️
also, OP is used nowhere else except reddit
hoboclap [#124]no one is clicking on the link bro✌️
also, OP is used nowhere else except reddit
😂
hoboclap [#123]stats prove that he had the worst performance ever for a duelist in franchise history, other than that it says he is 3-4 place when he isnt carried by pancada or sacy.
Also, arguing for the sake of arguing is the whole essence of this site buddy, if you dont like the engagement bait, click off you neurodivergent ape.
3 and 4 is better than not even qualifying for the event without Meteor carrying Stats also prove Aspas is the best Duelist you literally hand picked one tournament three out of the 5 guys in Gen G team are Masters champions what stopped T3xture from qualifying for Champs? while Aspas was not only putting numbers but dragged his squad of new players to 5th in champs so you can keep crying about him getting carried
Punish3rlp [#126]3 and 4 is better than not even qualifying for the event without Meteor carrying Stats also prove Aspas is the best Duelist you literally hand picked one tournament three out of the 5 guys in Gen G team are Masters champions what stopped T3xture from qualifying for Champs? while Aspas was not only putting numbers but dragged his squad of new players to 5th in champs so you can keep crying about him getting carried
you do realize Aspas only made it to champs because Americas tie breaker is different than the rest of the regions? and GenG didnt make champs because their tiebreaker is not the americas version.
If they were swapped in the regions, GenG would have made it while MIBR misses out.
Also, dont say new players like Verno, cortezia, and artzin are bad players, they are insanely good LOL
it's like I'm talking to a brick wall. MIBR had 4 rookies GEN G had 3 masters champions you can't change the fact that T3xture had a better squad still got owned by a team Aspas went +22 against with 4 rookies t3xture went -15 btw dropping a stinker against RRQ in their last game of the season I just don't know what your point is you talk as if T3xture has been doing insane stuff or anything lol Aspas clears him in personal stats Aspas also clears him in trophies since Champs trophy is bigger than Masters you just have no point so you're making it seems like that MIBR squad was somehow stronger than the GENG that had 3 masters champions really?
foythvlr [#2]MIBR is better than all mentioned
This is called cope
foythvlr [#130]It is the truth
You've basically decided that aspas is going to carry every team he's on to a win?
Well explain me this, why didn't lev 24 win champs, why didnt 25 mibr win.
Not saying getting top 4 is bad. Just saying, why couldn't these teams win, its not like aspas wasnt carrying them before.
And mibr 26... You've basically done a vitality 25 all over again, and we know how that party went.
Superteams dont autowin. Teams that work together and know how yo play the way they want TOGETHER win.
You can carry regionals, but you cant carry international wins
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#131]You've basically decided that aspas is going to carry every team he's on to a win?
Well explain me this, why didn't lev 24 win champs, why didnt 25 mibr win.
Not saying getting top 4 is bad. Just saying, why couldn't these teams win, its not like aspas wasnt carrying them before.
And mibr 26... You've basically done a vitality 25 all over again, and we know how that party went.
Superteams dont autowin. Teams that work together and know how yo play the way they want TOGETHER win.
You can carry regionals, but you cant carry international wins
Not reading all that sorry aspas wins
foythvlr [#132]Not reading all that sorry aspas wins
You've become glittering_yard but worse. Why
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#131]You've basically decided that aspas is going to carry every team he's on to a win?
Well explain me this, why didn't lev 24 win champs, why didnt 25 mibr win.
Not saying getting top 4 is bad. Just saying, why couldn't these teams win, its not like aspas wasnt carrying them before.
And mibr 26... You've basically done a vitality 25 all over again, and we know how that party went.
Superteams dont autowin. Teams that work together and know how yo play the way they want TOGETHER win.
You can carry regionals, but you cant carry international wins
whoever compares mibr 26 to vit 25 is on the spectrum
CaxTonYT [#136]What being an andhbhakt does to a person
Bro i legit have no idea who you are
Kaplan initially had the idea of putting zekken on smokes this year, but it was zekken's decision to either smoke for narrate or aspas. Anybody with a right mind would choose the latter.
Final_boss_ [#138]Kaplan initially had the idea of putting zekken on smokes this year, but it was zekken's decision to either smoke for narrate or aspas. Anybody with a right mind would choose the latter.
Wait really? Zekken on smokes?
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#139]Wait really? Zekken on smokes?
wait really? Zekken smokes? (do not smoke, kids)
Punish3rlp [#128]it's like I'm talking to a brick wall. MIBR had 4 rookies GEN G had 3 masters champions you can't change the fact that T3xture had a better squad still got owned by a team Aspas went +22 against with 4 rookies t3xture went -15 btw dropping a stinker against RRQ in their last game of the season I just don't know what your point is you talk as if T3xture has been doing insane stuff or anything lol Aspas clears him in personal stats Aspas also clears him in trophies since Champs trophy is bigger than Masters you just have no point so you're making it seems like that MIBR squad was somehow stronger than the GENG that had 3 masters champions really?
so Toronto doesnt exist? Aspas got hard diffed by t3xture LOL
Also, Yes, GenG choked. I never said they didnt. All im saying is MIBR was in the same situation as GenG, but only got into champs due to Americas being the only region that does tiebreaker differently.
And, T3xture and the others did fall off, i agree. They dont have the hunger anymore it seems, but in 2024 and before playoffs toronto, T3xture was a better duelist.
hoboclap [#141]so Toronto doesnt exist? Aspas got hard diffed by t3xture LOL
Also, Yes, GenG choked. I never said they didnt. All im saying is MIBR was in the same situation as GenG, but only got into champs due to Americas being the only region that does tiebreaker differently.
And, T3xture and the others did fall off, i agree. They dont have the hunger anymore it seems, but in 2024 and before playoffs toronto, T3xture was a better duelist.
if you say that t3xture was the best duelist in Masters shanghai yes he was but after that he wasn't in Champs 2024 it was KK. Aspas dragged LEV to top 3 losing only to TH and EDG. my point is T3xture needs Gen G or a similar team to pull out numbers while Aspas was doing it in Loud he did it in LEV and he's doing it in MIBR so no t3xture was never the better duelist he was in Masters Shanghai but that's it
foythvlr [#137]Bro i legit have no idea who you are
Why do u need to know who I am? Do u know every person u talk to on this site
CaxTonYT [#143]Why do u need to know who I am? Do u know every person u talk to on this site
because YOU ars talking like you know me. "You've become glittering_yard but worse" lol Who the fuck do you think you are
foythvlr [#144]because YOU ars talking like you know me. "You've become glittering_yard but worse" lol Who the fuck do you think you are
U are so fucking pathetic lol all of this for a player who doesnt give a shit
CaxTonYT [#145]U are so fucking pathetic lol all of this for a player who doesnt give a shit
What the fuck are you talking about
foythvlr [#146]What the fuck are you talking about
Are u genuinely this stupid? Or just trying to act tuff
CaxTonYT [#147]Are u genuinely this stupid? Or just trying to act tuff
?????? YOU are the one who replied to ME saying i "became worse then glittering yard" but i have no idea who you are. This isn't even about aspas. You are just saying unrelated stuff that makes no sense
Final_boss_ [#138]Kaplan initially had the idea of putting zekken on smokes this year, but it was zekken's decision to either smoke for narrate or aspas. Anybody with a right mind would choose the latter.
just speaking shit for the sake of it why would Kaplan do that
TheAceGamer30 [#149]just speaking shit for the sake of it why would Kaplan do that
Kaplan wanted to experiment this year, what you see reddux is playing now (omen , yoru ) probably Zekken would have been in that spot. he wanted to try the sen 2024 formula of moving tenz to omen kinda shit.
Zyro007_ [#151]What happened bro ??????
they hit the jackpot 10% i predicted (zekken decides to win and takes a shit ton of adderall)
hoboclap [#152]they hit the jackpot 10% i predicted (zekken decides to win and takes a shit ton of adderall)
Holy cope
hoboclap [#152]they hit the jackpot 10% i predicted (zekken decides to win and takes a shit ton of adderall)
cope
TheAceGamer30 [#149]just speaking shit for the sake of it why would Kaplan do that
do we have an explanation for anything kaplan does bro
hoboclap [#156]bump for catnmouse
bros gonna have the best laugh
ngl i had them losing 3 bo5s before the furia game just because i knew those guys were destined to win
catNmouse [#158]bros gonna have the best laugh
ngl i had them losing 3 bo5s before the furia game just because i knew those guys were destined to win
i always knew my math and hate was right.
foythvlr [#2]MIBR is better than all mentioned
Qualify to internationals first buddy 😹
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