NA's not looking so good

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all the teams feel underwhelming
i understand that they're all inexperienced as teams

but at this point São Paulo's just going to be mainly EU vs DRX
maybe with PRX and some south american countries getting a decent run

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Do not forget about 100T

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almost lost to liquid with 2 stand-ins

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u are ommiting the fact that both subs are t1 EMEA players.... 100t vs franchised EU
(at redbull)
4-0 series
8-2 Maps

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What stupid logic is that? Let's replace IGL and arguably best sentinel player in the world with mediocre players who are now playing in tier 2 oh yeah Meddo's team didn't even qualify for tier 2.

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copium

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They didn't have their IGL and Meddo is not even in tier 2 rn kekw, he is obviously good but bruh

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Nice copium, NA is down bad

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Hynix

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the fact that 100t is the best team in the region considering they've only replaced will with cryo is concerning.
yeah, cryo makes the team a lot better, but 100t wasn't that great to begin with

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wdym? They were pretty good at the Red Bull event, and I know that liquid had two subs but like they still didn't lose a series.

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queueK

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Cryo is a massive upgrade over will tbf

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C9 and 100T sweep the competition again ez

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aylez

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NRG and 100T got us dw

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In Finn Steiner we trust

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aylez

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as a fellow finesser, i wholeheartedly agree

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Hynix

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i forgo about nrg bruh im dumb
yeah i'm picking nrg as fav for NA

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Yes sir

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queueK

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I don't think EU will do much better either , most rosters are still new projects. It's natural, they'll get better with time

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SENneedstacpausetowin

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Navi will win everything tbh, and fnatic and liquid are too good to not beat most franchised teams

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thing is eu teams if you just look at what players they got they look all pretty good. we rly need to wait and see how all teams perform in sau paulo

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Nah this just means that NA ascension teams are cracked

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100T and c9 is the only real known quantity. I think its not even NA teams in general. Just a lot of these franchise team have little to no time to prep, they're gonna suck a lot.

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mainly EU vs DRX

Please explain this lol

EU looks like shit too, Parla took Navi (best team in Europe) to 5 maps

T2 NA is just going to be the strongest circuit in the world, unlucky

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T2 NA the strongest ?? until they beat established teams like c9 or 100 i will agree they are just beating people with less time to prep that theirs.

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Copium

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do we rly know if teams show up there A game right now? atm all the team newly formed and still work on it so. i guess we should wait for sao paulo to see what will happen. A lot of ppl think loud is gonna sweep all away

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EU and ASIA are the same, every league has 2 or 3 good teams others are garbage

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NA on average is on a higher level than EU lmao

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EG brings the NA average down below EU singlehandedly

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EG ain't losing to fucking bbl and koi

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patuj

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What are you talking about? KOI has Sheydos, Trexx, Koldamenta, starxo and Wolfen that is stronger than EG on paper.

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EG = NRG

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koi wouldn't beat turtle squad, mfs dogshit

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patuj

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So NRG is that weak? I guess Americas will just be dominated by BR and LATAM then.

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this is getting funnier and funnier

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patuj

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You lack the ability of reading? EG isn't same as NRG, and TH isn't same as KOI.

continue thread →

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gablin

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wdym koi destroys EG imo top 5 EU

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queueK

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EG losing to everyone when their best player is BCJ lmfao

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BBL I agree but koi's team is cracked out of their minds tbh

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fnatic lost to GEEKAY ESPORTS

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How is EU any better? Two of your franchised teams lost to a random Turkish team and your crown jewel in navi went to 5 maps against them

Not to mention heretics got absolutely bodied by C9 and 100T

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Bro tier 1 franchise teams actually in shambles ATM LOL

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brahianv

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NA did not beat any top eu teams they were always favorites to win the event.

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patuj

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"random Turkish team" arguably most stacked Turkish team that are one of the favorites for Ascensions. Like I don't get how going 1-2 against them or winning 3-2 is worse than going 0-2 vs TSM.

but yes most these franchise teams are fresh so they will have close games vs tier 2.

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i don't think anyone rated parla highly until they went against the franchised teams but i could be wrong

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patuj

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Even Sliggy said that in his opinion Parla is the best Turkish team when he did watchparty before the games

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I’m sorry but that really doesn’t mean much

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patuj

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How? He literally knows whats happening behind the scenes in scrims etc. And who are good and who aren't. Even if he hasn't been a coach for some months.

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I meant that “being the best Turkish team” doesn’t mean much

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nah you were right overall

if sl0ggy is such a prophet, why does no one want him lmfao. Maybe something to do with the dogshit TL roster he was running before he got dropped

EU coping zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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patuj

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Why? Turkey is the most competitive VCL league and Parla is arguably their strongest team or at least was at the time. And again how does this change anything? I asked you how losing or having close game vs Parla is any worse than losing to TSM 0-2 when both are teams of similar level?

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don't forget that C9 lost to fokus

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Danny

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EU fans are so mad that NA has a talent pool deeper than 2 teams

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queueK

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A T1 team losing 0-2 to a T2 team indicates bad roster building and clout based scouting not a deep talent pool

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Danny

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Yes man Tier 1 teams having a 100% winrate against tier 2 scenes definitely is not a sign of a weak talent pool…

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maximumszn

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Too early to judge, pretty embarrassing tournament for SEN and T1 but it is still offseason and too early to draw conclusions

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Ullyr

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Actually sanest SEN fan take.

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you're delusional if you don't think NA will still be the best region in franchising

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Eu has top 3 that is stronger than NA top teams, but overall Americas 10 are stronger than Eu 10 for sure.

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brahianv

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i agree but in the end the only thing that matter are the top teams nobody cares about the bottom half.

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Agreed but keep in mind NA is the most wealth region along with Japan I guess. They will always get better and reshuffle rosters for winnings. Considering NA tier 2 league is the most competitive and has 12 teams, I think NA will always be a banger region.

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Correction

SEN’s not looking so good

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Hollup, let 100T and NRG cook

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This just makes me more confident in NA as a whole tbh

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LMAOOOO mans basing this off of teams with zero practice
your world is about to rock when you see NA dominate in Berlin
typing this here so i can come back to it and make fun of you guys
EU is the only other region that'll have as many teams as NA does in the latter half of Berlin

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TBH i believe in ZETA too.

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every valorant tournament someone says “na bad, expect eu vs drx (drx lmfaooo)” and it never happens 🤷‍♂️

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100T stomps

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Flyjin

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opposite, the NA teams will wreck the eu teams

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NA: NRG, 100T
rest of americas: LEV, LOUD
all of them are gonna be in the top 10 global enough said, C9 and SEN yeah dont look their best but every regions got its good lookin and bad lookin teams.

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what makes u think emea is strong?
yeah on paper all of our teams have gotten like 10x better when it comes to individual skill but that doesnt mean it will translate ingame, will prob we underwhelming at first too.

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only sane European?

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Domination

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And EU is looking good?🗿Top team Navi almost lost to a tier 2 team on high ping🗿

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yeah and EU is looking great! Navi getting fucked by a tier 2 team until they started to get high ping!

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fnatic got the trophy, ez for boaster