https://x.com/Derke/status/2064056403019575485
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context about yetujey: https://youtu.be/C0eEJSk_Iew?si=NxF9zMqGUPvXpSx5&t=2528
derke tweet about cheating
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Do you understand the concept of "ethics, morals and fair play? "
The reason a thing called the legal system and rules exist?
Fck integrity, if it’s not illegal, i’m getting that bag. We should all do steroids
Wonder why rules exist huh
Because this thing called "cheats" Are not allowed...
I wonder why EVERY game that tests skill has such rules
ok but the fact that you can do it at all is a huge oversight
it's an insane advantage
an advantage available to everyone isn't an advantage, its a missed opportunity
ok but it's an advantage that nobody should even have in the first place
and it's not always available to everyone, it's not guaranteed that you're playing a 1v1 post plant as an attacker
such braindead logic - its like saying diving in soccer or playing basketball like okc is an advantage and everyone should be doing it.. just because something isn't explicitly in the rules doesnt mean its fair
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No point in explaining it to serot since hes stuck up on the idea that players should do it. Ethical plays are a thing of past apparently
this idea that its okay to do unethical things as long as theyre not violating laws is exactly how we have billionaires and corporations exploiting laws to create monopolies and avoid taxes while the average person gets screwed by them
acting like every single person ever isnt trying to get as much tax writeoff as possible
are you seriously telling me if you could pay 5 percent less in taxes exploiting a minor legal loophole you wouldnt do it?
yeah because that's the same thing as rich people funding pacs and campaigns of officials that then pass laws cutting their taxes specifically
(the average middle class person cant afford the top lawyers in the country that will find them these exploits but thats not relevant to our discussion because most pros know about the exploit they just choose to be sporting players)
Almost like its a sportsmanship thing of "we will play to the rules of the game to be fair to ourselves and everyone else"
looking at your opponents isn't against the rules lol
both teams are allowed to do it, its perfectly fair
I agree it shouldnt be allowed in the rules but if its allowed you cannot be blaming people for abusing it
Lemme know when you can do it in ranked.
This game, is treated like Ranked at the highest level.. Its Competitive
What it effectively is, is wall hacks in a specific situation...
It doesn't matter that both teams have it available. Because its inherently breaking the very concept of the competitive shooter
you are comparing exploiting a minor loophole in competitive rules to murder
lost your mind lol
Do you know the meaning of "ethics, fairplay, and sportsmanship" ?
playing smart within the rules is perfectly fine
if everyone decides to do it, then it just becomes an acceptable meta
then u could have mind games where you fake keyboard and mouse movement to stick the bomb safely
Its at best a gray area and at worst just a refined version of wall hacks in a specific situation
cheathan AND cheatujey should be suspended for game 1 of london playoffs/stage 2 whichever comes first no exceptions
derke talking about this is like the imposter from among us pressing the red button for a meeting
he's right that the teams stages should not face each other
or if they do, there should at least be a barrier to where you can't see what they're doing while sitting (like CS did in budapest last year)
tbf he has a point and the whole teams facing each other is so stupid and there's reason why other games outside of couple don't do that
they could just add a short divider wall behind the monitors to block vision of keyboard and mouse
does derke ever learns to shut the fuck up god damn i like the guy but every time hes complaining about something
brother not only won but continues to complain about something that literally didn't even matter in the end? idk what derke is smoking but yetujey played every post the EXACT SAME WAY the entire time. if he couldn't figure out that yetujey was not going to swing him that's his problem. like no one cares. last time this happened was with nrg vs fnc at champs and it actually gave them the wrong information, they still won the round anyway
is it the last clip? cause i saw a clip of larok doing the same to derke in breeze, idk what larok said cause he comms turkish but derke had to defuse and larok was looking at derke giving information to lovers rock
derke is saying that yetujey looked at him across the stage (in the middle of the 1v1 like how does that make sense) and saw he wasn't defusing. idk how that is even possible
Well I’m judging without looking so I could be wrong but how could he possibly look and play at the same time unless if one of his teammates call it out?
It’s also not serious in the long run since they won, and imo Yetujay had that round in the bag either way
He looks to see if Derke is moving on his keyboard/mouse to see if hes defusing or not. Ethan did it on champs too
its not that hard to imagine.. you literally look at their hands to see if they're hitting wasd. you also have 4 teammates that are out of the round that can do it for u
How did he know that he looked? Perhaps he was looking too and lost the battle of cheat so he complained
VIT Derke
@Derke
Hello VCT!
There has been a few occasions this year, and even previous one where a player during a 1v1 post plant clutch starts to look at his opponents keyboard and mouse to read their movement if they’re defusing or not for an example
As this situation has happened multiple times to us and other teams. I’m sure everyone has seen at least one clip of it happening and I still didn’t see any attempts to fix the situation, it doesn’t happen in other video games cause they don’t sit across each other like we do here.
I also don’t want to bring any hate to the players or whoever does that, I just think that it can impact some of the important rounds and hopefully it gets addressed
Not much to be said about this tbh when Leo Faria immediately addressed the issue under his tweet and said exactly what they're implementing to fix the issue and how
I mean ignoring wether this is valid or not surely you could move your mouse alot while defusing to fake not sticking it
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