So you are saying you will rather destroy the entire existing VCT ecosystem just to give South America its own region for visa issues? At this point it’s easier to just move the americas venue or split the league into two regional conferences that compete in an international qualifier.

I also think you don’t understand what happened when we gave China a region. They literally didn’t get their own region until the game released in China. Simply put the reason mainland China is getting better is in part due to the influx of player talent and money that comes with releasing a game. The rise of China is not mainly due to getting an official region, more so the official release of the game in the mainland led to orgs forming teams and investment to begin to flow. Even if riot kept its hands off the Chinese domestic scene, as long as they allowed qualification for internationals through some route we would inevitably see Chinese teams rise to the top with the power of domestic money and sponsorships.

Using this as a justification for fragmented regions supposedly being better is honestly nonsense. If anything the regional resources of existing regions are being split into smaller chunks and the quality of the regional fragments is lowered as well.

The Korean subregion doesn’t dominate because of any sort of resource advantage. Yes they have the visa and venue advantage, but APAC teams can all scrim each other relatively easily besides Oceania. Visa issues also are relatively uncommon. The real resource is just the size of the talent pool and that isn’t gonna change if you give them a region. Korea just has one of the world’s strongest gaming cultures to begin with. Point is, giving out new regions doesn’t magically make a region better off. If you put Korea and japan in the same region the Japanese teams aren’t suddenly going to get any better. If Japanese tier two is as held back by their region as you imply then why can they not make ascension?

The posts you point to do not prove anything. If anything, they prove that Europe already has a massive advantage in playerbase and in subregional player talent pool with the amount of flexibility they have to join teams. If you give it its own region while splitting others you are pitting still linguistically divided smaller regions against an extremely flexible and unified EMEA playerbase.

You just completely dismissed my very relevant league of legends example. Yes it’s not valorant and valorant doesn’t have regional dominance, but I’m sure if you implement the EXACT MISTAKES that league JUST STOPPED MAKING then the same result of regional dominance would occur. Riot runs consolidated regions because they work. League is moving away from fragmentation and towards consolidation already. Instead of learning from that you choose to make the same mistakes. Riot has teams of seasoned professionals working on these issues and it’s honestly outlandish that a nobody like you thinks that you have all the solutions. Riot doesn’t have a perfect system, but they have been running esports for almost two decades now. The mistakes they made are being learned from.

Skye gekko harbor all have low pick rate
Breach has been bad for a while

Ok now we might be trolling

Less util is always more fun for the viewer experience imo
Aim is by far the most entertaining thing to watch

Also forgot to mention that your so called separate champions stage doesn’t change anything. It’s not like you can run the regionals while the champions stage is ongoing, so for all intents and purposes it is just a long ass group stage for champs. You still need to fly out players and reserve some sort of venue even if it is smaller. It’s basically the same as the champions we have with a longer format.

Your best agent looks like clove
Stop filling and instalock clove every game

So you are arguing that talent dilution basically isn’t real? Making regions smaller does not make them more competitive at all. This is just a numbers game. Less people represented by a region means less talent for the region to draw from. On top of that if you expand the team slots for a certain region like SA, it’s not really helping their case as much as you think. Being able to sign more players is a moot point because what SA suffers from isn’t the inability to sign new talent. Expanding team slots just ensures that the top talent is redistributed across more teams rather than concentrating them into a select few.

The only reason China is behind right now is because they are facing multi national regions as a single nation with a lack of existing strong fps experience in esports. We have already seen EDG win champs, and yet other regions right now are only competitive with highly multinational teams or because they have a longer history in certain genres. China will catch up since they can scrim and easily recruit from APAC. And their growth as a region is easily unmatched in valorant so far. You want to weaken all of APAC and AMER by splitting the regions.

My mistake on the team viability part because I read the EMEA split proposal as part of your comment. Still a null point because it is canceled amount by the fact that keeping EMEA a single region is literally just giving them the CN treatment. Americas is gonna have to compete as a divided region vs the densely populated EMEA superteams by nature of having only the best of the best players crammed into a pathetically small 8 teams. If they play their cards right EMEA and CN can field multiple superteams year round with their incredibly deep talent pool.

The system you propose is remarkably similar to what league of legends had just a while back. And look what we have there. Americas was split into two regions, and both of them ended up being complete trash. Riot decided to merge them to make them more competitive. APAC was split into multiple fragmented regions and all of them failed to be properly competitive. They got merged to become more competitive. Meanwhile a unified European league and a powerful Chinese league achieved good results year after year. The only exception to this being Korea, where a strong esports culture and love for the game itself led to the formation of the most dominant league to date.

Your proposal is tried and tested, and the results were trash. That’s just the truth of the matter.

Tier one professionals only on this list

Streets clearly forgot forsaken and jawgemo neon

Keiko is an aimer. Most of his best clips on raze have less to do with raze and more to do with his aim. This is why I stressed agent mastery over player overall skills. This is something I guess half the comment section missed. Keiko is easily a better player overall, but asuna is a better at utilizing raze util to the fullest.

Zekken raze is great but asuna raze movement is world class. Say what you want about his other gameplay choices. I think in terms of raze movement his satchel usage is only behind jinggg at the pro level. I was debating Zekken or jawgemo for neon but went with jawgemo since I think his movement is just slightly better overall. Was a close call and I don’t mind if you rate Zekken neon higher,

Lwk forgot about this guy since 2g are so ass

I think KK neon was more him being an aim monster than being on neon. His other agents are just as good as his neon stat wise imo. His movement wasn’t outstanding, just passable.

He’s an Aimer and a great player, but he doesn’t do anything crazy that’s agent specific. Just a monster mechanically.

This is solving some problems by creating a couple new ones.

1. Talent dilution increases the more regions exist. More rosters than ever would be completely infeasible under import rules. Building a viable team becomes especially hard in countries with a lack of domestic talent. Countries with highly promising players get screwed over since their talent has less room in region to shine, especially with the proposed 8 teams per region.

2. The eight team per region design makes for a pathetic league system. Masters 1 is already universally considered Mickey Mouse for the pathetically small size of the tournament. Viewers already complain about the lack of matches to watch in valorant and this won’t help that on the regional level. Yes, this can be mitigated with bigger internationals like you implemented. However, regional viewership is still important. International tournaments don’t fit everyone’s time zones, but your regional games always will. Fan engagement for bad teams is healthy for a sustainable esports ecosystem, and if all the viewership is concentrated at the top level, the bottom will rot.

3. Champions stage is not viable. This would drag out champions to an unsustainably long timescale. Champions takes nearly a month already. Adding a round robin would put this past any reasonable timescale. Viewership for group stage will suffer. The only option would be to either run games together on two streams or run BO1s at the cost of making all the games at the event feel cheaper. Venue will be downgraded, probably with no live crowd.

4. China will dominate. The largest country in the world with the largest playerbase, vs regions that were smaller before but now even smaller, with talent diluted across them instead of concentrated. They can scrim every team in Asia, snag players with monster salaries, and maintain the largest talent pool while every other region breaks up.

BY AGENT MASTERY NOT BY OVERALL PLAYER CALIBER

Raze:

1. jinggg
2. asuna (hot take ik)
3. zekken
4. jawgemo
5. whzy

Neon:

1. dambi
2. t3xture
3. miniboo
4. forsaken
5. jawgemo

Jett:

1. demon1 (prime)
2. aspas
3. t3xture
4. something
5. seoldam

Yoru:

1. izu
2. derke
3. marteen
4. kaajak
5. buzz

Waylay:

1. jawgemo
2. kamo
3. w00t
4. meiy
5. zekken

I expect disagreements but note that this is not stat based, its based on my eye test judgement of their util and movement on duelist agents

I would agree but DFM will win it this time

stats aren't everything because stats says more about the team and other external factors besides agent mastery
jinggg literally has a double satchel for every position on every map
his moment on raze is the best at the pro level by far and its not even close
he is constantly dropping insane numbers on the agent
keznit just runs at them and aims, doing nothing special with the agent

jawgemo does nothing special on yoru
low assists and mid stats
much better on raze neon waylay imo since his playstyle works best with movement entry

Fortnite is one of the most mechanically intensive fps games out there. CS isn't even close. Anyone who has played fortnite at a top level can tell you this. Even ohnepixel himself agrees that fortnite's required mechanical skill is insane.

You really can’t prove any of that unless you actually put her in a tier 1 environment and she is the best player on her roster in tier 2 imo

One bad game like furia isn’t the worst team in the league

Go to any regional event and filter stats by sova or fade players, then check the bottom 3 rated players. She probably plays better than them at least. If I recall correctly Sarah peaked like 1k RR which is higher than a good number of franchised players right now.

Mel igling skills only proven at the GC level, which isn’t saying much. Considering how hard they are getting stomped in challengers I’m not sure if her calling is up to standard for tier 1.

Idk, I’m pretty sure most tier 1 pros have good collaborative mindsets by nature of having the drive to become one of the best players and by constantly working in team environments where opinions frequently clash. If you aren’t mature enough to handle the opposite gender I doubt you would be able to have the maturity to handle a team environment in general.

Digital footprint

Gyen would be him if he was just confident

ChatGPT does lie and does so to my face frequently

If you aren’t mature enough to handle a girl on your team without acting weird or if the girl can’t handle being with men then neither deserve to be professionals

Primmie has been extremely underwhelming tbh but I don’t think he is a bad player, just overhyped

Not that I know of but in general there are far less female players in top ranks so you can’t really draw any conclusions since the sample size is so small

damn i gotta get mine

m4 is a random dude with zero credentials that acts as an armchair analyst

if he isn't ragebaiting he is just a sad and pathetic person

whzy is legit him that's not a life round
he is a duelist that can easily go toe to toe with KK or outperform him

why are you hatewatching the entire blg roster

bro snuck 3 ok teams into his trash team list

Zellsis may be a great teammate but NOBODY is underrating his aim. His aim is lwk mid asf and we all know it.

Yeah sideshow is ass. All he brings is poorly inserted politics and bad takes. Man is basically always wrong about everything.

Did you ever stop to consider that maybe the games they win hard are because he plays better?

Lakia was co-igl when he played before so I’m assuming he takes over full time

If they do bad I won’t be mad but as a fan you need to have faith

Boom were just frauds that got exposed and C9 are the chokers of all time. Plenty of teams make playoffs and perform the same or even better.

Yeah give it another year and he’s fs gonna be gone

It’s bo3 all the same why are we pretending there is some massive difference between a playoffs game and a group stage game

They aren’t probably. Most likely Lakia for Munchkin next year because he leaves for military service.

The ts copers get more unhinged by the day

They already beat talon and talon already beat T1 so they only gotta beat PRX who just lost to ZETA and DRX to get top 2

DFM win champs you aren’t believing enough

THIS RAFT WILL NOT SINK 💯💯💯