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«faking being non-binary to play in gc»

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veronika

https://x.com/dawnmoer/status/1987951591148630402?s=46&t=F47mEJsy6iM0BheeLwWOWg

the way i understood this post, is that she knows of a gc player faking being non binary to play, and when i think of it there kinda is no way to stop it, but idk if people actually do it

EDIT: i did not post this in bad faith and was simply curious, i have nothing against non binary people or anyone else :)

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Laundry
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ik you have good intentions for actual discussion but this is gonna turn into a shitshow being on vlr

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veronika
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i didnt want that i was curious what others thought, is there a way to remove a thread?

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Effluxi
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Ask mods very nicely

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JonahPork
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I have a feeling I know exactly who it is but throwing around accusations and accusing the wrong person would be bad

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cirruss
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same

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nutab1e
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d0wnm0er does not tweet with the best intentions

#5
MrBlooBloom
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the industry is cooked regardless, no idea how serious orgs are still investing in this

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1dan1x
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Okay lets think about it.

be c1s man (doesnt matter as long as youre trans or non binary)
hit imm3/radiant (okay)
failed t2/3 career (okay)
see dying GC scene (?)
put "any/all" in bio (how could you differentiate between genuine ppl and those who arent)
only use he/him (idk if those are accusations or true things, I would love to have more context)
"i am nb" (well again could just be a non binary person)
anykey verified (how would you verify it? you also dont just ask for hrt records for trans ppl not thats even necassery to be trans, same thing for nb)
play in GC (thats what GC is)
become top 3 team (okay)
profit (okay)

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229fn
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afaik anykey verification involves you sharing any social media accounts as well as your discord or a government ID and then they can either have you get a note from a doctor or you can go through a voice interview

i'm not exactly sure how it all works since i'm not far enough through to be anykey verified yet but he probably went through the voice interview if i had to guess

you can be trans without HRT and nb people don't use HRT

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1dan1x
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thanks for explaining

#8
glittering_yard
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This is a common problem and in one of her replies she said

“its one of Your Favorite Player(s)“

So i guess its someone on YFP gc team

#9
Laundry
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it's highly implied k0rupt, only player in NA GC rn outside of SRG and bob with any T2 career

#11
poggpigg
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k0rupt

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segbench
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the person being referenced here was already called out on twitter by their ex. the ex said they dated for 3 years, called the player out by name, and said they were 100% faking.

if these twitter heroes are going to make the accusations, name the person. otherwise, it's just clear they are doing it for attention.

#10
Ross
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Welcome to the new western ideology, it’s dumb.

#13
1dan1x
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Welcome to the new western ideology, it’s people.

#12
Linardinssssss
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StarBound

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Effluxi
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I mean I understand it's prob self-ID based as it kinda has to be but surely if it's like, known known around the scene there's still scrutiny.

I wish people'd stop being coy about shit in general tho either say your stuff if you have shit or fuck off if you don't tbh

#16
DBStudios
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I love how people only say this after years of these kind of people dominating the scene that riot encourages btw. These kind of people like the original poster probably also supported flor being able to play in their league before (not saying flor fakes being NB but the fact that they are NB is what riot encourages)

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Kaust
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What is anykey? Also how does one verify this stuff even (I genuinely don't know pls don't cancel me thanks)

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229fn
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#25, anykey is an organization that is meant to confirm the gender identity of players

#68
Kaust
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Thank you for the clarification good sir o7

#18
seven_glazer
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bizerra was based tbh

#20
veronika
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what did bizerra say?

edit: i searched around a bit but it seemed to have only been directed at srn, or she's changed her views because i found this tweet of hers from july, so she doesnt seem transphobic
https://x.com/bizerravlr/status/1936832315088392616?s=20

#21
grisx23
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I mean there will always be people doing this because there is more money to be made in gc than tier 2 and its so much easier

#22
ButterflyEffect23
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there are people actively doing this right now, however it can be tricky to find a 100% evidence

#23
foythvlr
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it is possible and there is a record of people doing it but its not easy to pretend you're someone you're not

like every other case before and probably every case of someone trying to take advantage by lying, you will get caught. prob the twitter post got some credible evidence of someone lying and reported it

#24
veronika
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yea if someone confessed to faking it and it got leaked that would be bad, but if they are actually non binary its not an issue

#28
foythvlr
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most of the times someone gets caught its by a self-report because the person thinks they can get away with it and start bragging to friends lol

also most of the time (if not all the time) its someone completely irrelevant to the scene

#29
veronika
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oh okay yea that makes sense

#27
Asto3
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WHO IS ????

#30
yukky
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MELYA!

THAT HAS TO BE A FAKER!

#31
veronika
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i dont know alot about her, why do u think she's faking?

#32
Kebone
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can someone tell me who is this referring to please cause im confused

#33
AlexSMTx
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I always thought about this cuz what is stopping anyone from saying they are nb just to get a paycheck and profit from gc scene

#34
veronika
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yea, and its appropriating other peoples identity aswell which isnt good, idk how you could stop it though

#35
asdfgh
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women suffering the consequences of their counter productive empathy once again,majority of women are in favor to keep the criteria to "qualify" for gc vague and impossible to enforce to please even the most ridiculous "marginalized" groups and make everyone feel included and now it resulted in a bunch of loser men farming them for money lol

#36
foythvlr
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its funny how you say that like people who do fake identities aren't generally very irrelevant to the scene and most of the time doesn't even have an org

#38
asdfgh
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bro you know damn well half the ppl with "identities" there dont have a single reason to play there expect for easier competition

#39
foythvlr
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did you ever talk to one to know? or are you just assuming?

fact is, from the actual relevant players who have queer identities, most if not all of them have been out for so long it's kinda hard to think they are faking it the whole time without being caught. every case of someone being outed as faking it was someone who never really been that big on the scene and there's a reason for that

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asdfgh
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im talking about the relevant players with "queer identities" too,what is exactly the reason they play in gc,when flor already demonstrated there is nothing stopping them from getting picked to real teams if they are good enough

#44
foythvlr
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Again, did you ever talk to one to know the actual reasons?

Mixed scene players themselves are mostly rejecting GC players, for starters. This is common knowledge. lol

#45
asdfgh
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like apeks and now eg are rejecting flor,and what is "mixed scene"

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foythvlr
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Mixed scene is the literal name riot gives to non-gc since it theoretically accepts men women and others
Apeks was the only instance of acceptance so far. What even EG got to do with this lol

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asdfgh
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im pretty sure both eg and envy are considering florescent,you ppl literally created this delusion urself because mel didnt get a spot in a challengers team 4 years ago now apparently all the teams are "rejecting" gc players even if they are insane when its clearly not the case if the player actually has talent to play in the real scene

#50
foythvlr
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there are literally 0 actual evidence or even credible rumours for that apart from vlr manifestation lol how the fuck are you "pretty sure"

#59
segbench
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i'm pretty none of the teams you mentioned are considering her. stop making shit up bc of who you see ppl duoing with.

#37
veronika
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i went and counted, and from what i know there are 4 people amab playing at gc champs, so i think "farming them" is abit rich. and even still, biological men have no biological advantage in valorant, ive heard abit about slightly faster reaction time on average, but thats so genetic and trainable that i think it doesnt make a difference

#40
asdfgh
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i have had so many disgustingly long arguments about this subject here so im not gonna do that again,all im gonna say is that biological men have greater spatial abilities in general and its a studied subject

#42
hfgsdhgfd
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You don’t know what you are talking about

#43
asdfgh
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i know exactly what im talking about,and thats why im not bothered to argue about it with emotional feminists,i know exactly how its gonna go

#46
Marii
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I remember this happened with Keenc and he carried eg to a gc Americas win

#53
chinesesalesmen
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eg mention

#52
Azzelastia
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😹😹😹😹

#54
femboyhater
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Is it starbound

#56
chinesesalesmen
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k0rupt they are talking about

#58
aiminverylabs
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k0rupt maybe

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