what did we forget abut them?

isnt ur region its a singular organization,put another na team there and it doesn't even peak higher than champs 2023
we all know val that,maybe if NA didnt suck ass at cs it would have functional scene too

just like val being carried by sen

cs manages these numbers with 0 clout teams,indeed if cs had a org like sen it wouldn't even be a competition tbh
brazil has the clout but sadly they are dogshit rn,just speaks to how passionate cs fans are when if val was in the same situation cs is it would have been dead already,almost everyone expect pure val fans agree cs is more entertaining to watch,even val pros

i think we all know why,a certain org made that event popular alone no one else

no shit he was worse then than now,but he wasnt shit compared to his competition back then

i just went trough his stats in 2020-2022 and i cant seem to find him being shit for 2 years,his stats say he was dominating almost every game even then
where did u pull this narrative exactly

its a 1.6 clone not go

bruh none of them are making it to top tier anymore,ange1 and fns were tier pretty irrelevant tier 2 payers in 2020,and now they are both like 40

kangkang "the op god" would get shut down against tier 3 cs teams,hence why he decided to grind a shitty looking rip off version instead,no one in their right mind prefers "crossfire hd" over cs if its not cause they feel like its easier to have a career there,just like many cs players switching to val

neither do u lol,he had more time but decided to switch,i wonder why

cause he knew he didnt have it in cs as he said himself,why are we making excuses when he literally said that

im pretty sure he grinded cs way longer than val

zekken came from cs too

obv not every pro is ex cs lol,but a lot are even if they didnt have a career

he played cs before val and said this lol

“I feel like I can carry a part of his dream in my professional Valorant career,” he said. “I’m not as good as other people at CS:GO, but Valorant makes sense for me.”

https://www.oneesports.gg/valorant/edward-gaming-zmjjkk-name-meaning/

i guarantee most pros who came from tac fps titles who are not zoomers probably started with cs or played it at some point

he is ex cs

most NA pros switched to valo cause cs was dead,or they knew that they could go further in val

hw does this have 2 frags,site full of npcs,he was never the weakest link in any team he played and he never played in guild what are u saying

i dare u to check the ppl i argue with,plenty of users are saying that

air time and amount of games,there was 24 teams in total playing this major and the format makes normal group stage games matter way less

yes i guess players,teams,state of the game,even politics sometimes etc,but its not as bad and braindead as vlr with the constant 0 effort bait threads and copypaste jokes since its way bigger and doesn't have this type of small community with the same users in every thread

nah,theres plenty of diversity there too
the threads are 10x better on average but rn its fun to argue with val fans getting triggered after thinking they 1 upped cs

why would i when nobody will disagree with me there

4th year in this modern era of games is not a small milestone for a esports title,cs growth from 2019 to this is wayyyy bigger

"soon™"
for the past 4 years https://imageproxy.ifunny.co/crop:x-20,resize:640x,quality:90x75/images/c00205d58f25b80f46834f56d6023633ad0edfa329396b43ecbaf5910dc33109_1.jpg
actually crazy if u think about, game has been out almost half a decade,and ur still making up hypotheticals in ur head,the goal posts just keep moving
"trust me bro riot knows what their doing"
"wait for china!!!"
"the gap is closing any second now"
lmfaoo

u just exposed how much smaller val is and didnt even realize it lol,thank u for pulling up the past viewership it helped a lot
adding that corny signature at the end of ur yapping doesnt help

insane that paris major with the shittiest playoffs of all time next to rio major peaked higher than optic vs loud in champs 2022,just another detriment to how much bigger cs really is,put those orgs in a val grand final and its a solid 500k peak,and "outsiders vs heroic" peaked higher than champs 2023 lmfao,never seen someone proud of this embarassment

also "first cs2 major hype" and "costreams" lmaoo,running out of arguments,sen making their first masters since 2021 with a title contender team is a bigger narrative than the first major on a upgraded engine no ones even hyped about anymore,keep embarassing urself more

tell me 1 reason it could be happening without sen,im sure if riot can get sen to atleast semis in every event the gap will be closed

hahahahaha copee king of shit takes,its not 100% true go see navi and faze social medias and lmk where u can find that clout cause i cant see it there,insane cope saying either of them have more than sen to discredit cs shitting on val again,both games had open co stream right if im not mistaken so if cs even beats val in casual streamers watching thats a bad look,i tought val was more popular in the mainsream but i guess not

its ppular in general,if u watched the major there was a shit ton of chinese fans in that crowd even with no chinese teams to watch

both have less clout than sen btw,and xqc had like 40k on twitch so if u wanna - that from the viewership go for it,even kyedae had more
cs has ppl watching simply for the game,no region war gimmicks or sen and still shat on madrid peak and had the 3rd highest peak,dead game btw btw https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/pgl-major-copenhagen-2024

stop smoking that brazilian brick weed king

the "first cs2 major" is still performing better than any val champs,and lets be 100% serious for a second do u actually think this being the first major on cs2 has some type of insane pull
and look at champs 2023 wiewership lol,without sen this game isnt rivaling cs in wiewership,this games whole popularity is literally dependent on 1 team doing good,and have u seen the major crowd,theres almost more chinese fans than danes there cs is popular in china too despite having no Chinese teams val could never have that type of passion for the game

"first cs2 major" its not that special

yeah this is def going to be the vlrs trump card for the next 10 years,sen carried the shit out of that viewership

yeah the chinese work culture is crazy,its like this in league too

thats what im saying,they could never reach the same level in cs

who were those young players? Anyone can look most val payers cs careers and see they didnt have the same potential in cs

fns and ange1 were c tier igs their whole career

i dont think he was hardstuck plat when he was abut t play pro but g2 didnt allow it lol

first to 16

brazil really cant talk when ppl were literally trying to spit on navi in the rio major and just in the latest r6s major in brazil a vp player got spit at and thrown things at too lol

they werent some ppl in the crowd they were literally paid/pressured to go there and do that by that guy lol,but its def uncharacteristic for a esports event lmao

it had nothing to do with the crowd its some streamer who owns a popular cs gambling site who had some beef with a gambling site that g2 is partnered with

if that makes u sleep better

neither are this shit for me,and i actually actively follow both,maybe league can be as cancerous too

sure man

cause they can barely even fill their current venues,theres def a difference in the crowds too,cs crowds are way more hype

its very easy to understand when u dont try to misunderstand it on purpose