ok i'm not arguing with the ppl you listed but if you look at the players who are in challengers rn, so may of them have been in the scene since beta too, even if they aren't the biggest names. but regardless, i just want to see envy get in bc hastro deserves it. that org was investing so much into val from day 1 and built that optic roster. riot fucked up so bad with how they selected teams for VCT Americas and i want envy to get the last fu

i know everyone is focusing on what will envy do with cane and ion not able to play in vct immediately but i still feel like it won't even matter bc the biggest narrative will be how much of a FU it will be to the competitive scene that a bunch of cracked ranked players were able to dominate an entire region of ppl who have been grinding the competitive scene for years

none, they are winning ascension idc

nah i def agree with you 100%, that's why i tried to say overdoing it just a little... i think it's fun when things get switched up and metas don't stagnate for too too long provided the switchup doesn't happen right before huge events. i just hated how easy it was to play tejo in post plant, like targeted high dmg molly that can't be destroyed, you get 3 uses per round, you don't even need to have sight of the bomb site to use it, etc. i don't mind util in post plants but at least make it challenging in some way to deny defuses.

agreed, there was def a time where it felt like every new agent they released was unplayable on launch but it's gotten much better over the last few. i'd prefer new agents being a little bit op at first so we get to see them played more often. tejo might have been overdoing it a little though.

most players are not getting 20K a mo. i promise you. the majority of players in Americas are getting much closer to 5K a month than 20K.

i like how every jersey has a different personal design above the name for the different players too

7/28
5pm
FLYQ v Hakikimori
SR v AI
Aussie v Equinox
Ghost v Alliance

730pm
:3 v Tenax
Wadada v ^-^
YFPX v YDZ Black
Teevee v Mac N Cheese

no1 needs to defend every other team in T2 challengers bc no1 here even talks about any other team besides envy and you KNOW that's true. it's impossible to even have this conversation in good faith bc no1 here has the self awareness to realize how they aren't being remotely objective. i don't see any threads that pop up for the other T2 teams that lose... it's just that the community has a massive hate boner and feels the need to talk about how shit SRG is literally only bc they are women lol and you know it's true. bc if it only had to do with the game, the other teams who were 0-3 or 1-2 would be getting the same flame.

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i get it. you see women lose a pistol and you whip out your fleshlights.

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yeah, tier 2 players are just bad tbh. i think ur right. it's the only explanation. t2 is honestly so weak rn and i can already tell by how you talk abt the game ur probably pretty good. it would be so funny if you made a team and then showed all these frauds what's up. DEF DO IT!

ok but they are getting better. it's like every single year, everyone just keeps moving the goalposts. first it's they can't get out of opening two rounds of qualifiers. then it's they can't win 3rd party tournamnets. then they can't get past round of 32, and 16, and then they can't qualify for challengers. and then they can't beat challengers teams... and then it's that they beat a challengers team but they don't beat enough for you guys.

these are players who never thought they'd have an opportunity to play pro and were yeeears behind in terms of basic fps fundamentals. and they improve but y'all just ignore the very obvious improvements.

nah this is the normal convo, you aren't going to get him to provide you actual examples lol. no team ever wins in val for this community -- they just say the team threw less. only 3 or 4 players are allowed to be good at a time around the world. everyone else is just dogshit. there is no nuance or middle ground. ppl like this have no clue what good or bad valorant is... they just like to say teams are trolling.

how u surprised lol way more ppl like her than u. if ur gonna be an asshole, then deal w ppl telling u to jump

you're way more annoying than her casting

derrek gave the reason in his post match interview

you've posted 60 times in the last 43 minutes. go jork it or eat a salad or something holy fuck

lmao end of mibr honeymoon the most obvious timeline. they are so done.

with all intended disrespect... if you read the prior msg and this is ur takeaway, u might be the biggest fucking dumbass in the world.

greg popovich, bill belichiik, coach k... 3 of the greatest coaches in history never stepped foot on a court/field as a pro. so tell me more.

nah very valid criticism after 12 rounds. the way you ppl overreact to literally 0 sample size is hilarious.

ok just saying when u posted this it's literally 8-4 on the most defense sided map in the game where a lot of teams are saying if you get 3 or 4 ur good. what are you even reacting to right now?

1-0 split 2, eat a dick twerp

lol no1 in your life as ever asked you "to go on" be for real

bro names a bunch of places where there are no riot arenas besides brazil and says run your league there please

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if this guy thinks this is bad, can you imagined how offended he would be if he heard the ACTUAL things players say about the other team to pump each other up during the match? the pearl clutching is extraordinary.

god damn sorry gramps. god forbid someone try to make this fun. you can tell this dolt watches major league baseball and paint dry.

your poor mother

remember when you called everyone else dumbfucks 3 messages prior :DD

i can't imagine how rough it must be to win over half of the champions league trophies in the last 10 years.

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genuinely who the fuck cares lol

if you don't think it's disrespectful, then drop it and see what happens

neither will you twerp

your mom is the main reason

bottom 3 international event easy

you can tell when someone is going to live in their mom's basement for the next 20 years of their life from a vlr thread lol. stay incel fuckass jajajaja