TBD drops 52
Monday, September 29
9:00 AM EDT
Patch 11.05
TH ban Sunset; PRX ban Haven; TH pick Ascent; PRX pick Bind; TH ban Abyss; PRX ban Corrode; Lotus remains
Betting
$100 on
Paper Rex
returned
$148
at pre-match odds
1.48
PRX
odds pre-match
$100 on
Paper Rex
returned
$140
at pre-match odds
1.40
PRX
odds pre-match
Streams
VODs
Maps/Stats
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Ascent
PICK
55:36
Team Heretics
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1.38 1.58 1.17 | 233 245 223 | 20 12 8 | / 13 5 8 / | 11 6 5 | +7 +7 0 | 75% 83% 67% | 152 150 153 | 19% 19% 18% | 4 2 2 | 3 1 2 | +1 +1 0 | |
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1.25 1.43 1.06 | 279 350 208 | 22 14 8 | / 17 9 8 / | 9 7 2 | +5 +5 0 | 88% 83% 92% | 168 217 120 | 18% 23% 11% | 6 3 3 | 2 1 1 | +4 +2 +2 | |
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1.03 1.34 0.73 | 211 254 169 | 18 11 7 | / 17 7 10 / | 12 8 4 | +1 +4 -3 | 67% 83% 50% | 122 141 104 | 25% 23% 28% | 3 2 1 | 2 1 1 | +1 +1 0 | |
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0.85 0.81 0.89 | 169 135 204 | 13 5 8 | / 15 7 8 / | 9 7 2 | -2 -2 0 | 71% 67% 75% | 112 106 118 | 30% 24% 35% | 0 0 0 | 1 1 0 | -1 -1 0 | |
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0.76 1.09 0.43 | 150 185 117 | 13 9 4 | / 16 7 9 / | 10 6 4 | -3 +2 -5 | 75% 83% 67% | 94 108 80 | 27% 21% 38% | 0 0 0 | 3 1 2 | -3 -1 -2 |
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1.27 1.04 1.49 | 282 249 315 | 24 11 13 | / 19 10 9 / | 3 3 0 | +5 +1 +4 | 67% 67% 67% | 181 159 204 | 30% 32% 29% | 5 3 2 | 4 3 1 | +1 0 +1 | |
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1.16 1.30 1.02 | 224 235 215 | 19 10 9 | / 17 7 10 / | 7 5 2 | +2 +3 -1 | 75% 92% 58% | 155 191 119 | 47% 45% 50% | 3 1 2 | 2 0 2 | +1 +1 0 | |
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0.97 1.12 0.81 | 172 176 169 | 13 7 6 | / 17 7 10 / | 10 6 4 | -4 0 -4 | 71% 75% 67% | 111 99 122 | 47% 40% 56% | 0 0 0 | 2 0 2 | -2 0 -2 | |
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0.85 1.57 0.12 | 166 247 87 | 13 11 2 | / 17 5 12 / | 4 1 3 | -4 +6 -10 | 67% 75% 58% | 115 155 74 | 18% 20% 13% | 3 2 1 | 3 1 2 | 0 +1 -1 | |
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0.64 0.74 0.54 | 101 88 116 | 9 4 5 | / 16 6 10 / | 3 2 1 | -7 -2 -5 | 67% 83% 50% | 70 65 75 | 18% 10% 31% | 0 0 0 | 2 2 0 | -2 -2 0 |
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1.10 1.35 1.22 | 245 213 282 | 53 25 28 | / 44 24 20 / | 34 19 15 | +9 +1 +8 | 78% 82% 72% | 153 129 181 | 34% 32% 37% | 8 5 3 | 5 3 2 | +3 +2 +1 | |
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1.44 0.97 1.22 | 235 262 198 | 52 34 18 | / 39 20 19 / | 21 7 14 | +13 +14 -1 | 68% 68% 69% | 154 175 129 | 27% 32% 22% | 8 3 5 | 8 2 6 | 0 +1 -1 | |
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0.99 1.14 1.06 | 197 169 221 | 44 19 25 | / 38 21 17 / | 25 14 11 | +6 -2 +8 | 76% 71% 83% | 127 122 132 | 31% 29% 33% | 1 0 1 | 3 3 0 | -2 -3 +1 | |
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0.99 1.14 1.06 | 214 229 202 | 47 27 20 | / 42 26 16 / | 23 12 11 | +5 +1 +4 | 76% 71% 83% | 136 149 122 | 21% 26% 14% | 9 5 4 | 8 5 3 | +1 0 +1 | |
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0.72 0.98 0.84 | 184 170 199 | 41 21 20 | / 45 27 18 / | 18 10 8 | -4 -6 +2 | 71% 65% 79% | 114 101 130 | 16% 17% 16% | 3 2 1 | 10 6 4 | -7 -4 -3 |
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0.82 1.61 1.22 | 235 182 298 | 57 19 38 | / 47 25 22 / | 11 5 6 | +10 -6 +16 | 68% 62% 74% | 155 113 190 | 35% 36% 35% | 12 5 7 | 8 5 3 | +4 0 +4 | |
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0.96 1.17 1.07 | 207 185 228 | 47 19 28 | / 46 23 23 / | 22 12 10 | +1 -4 +5 | 70% 72% 68% | 138 133 142 | 41% 49% 36% | 6 1 5 | 3 0 3 | +3 +1 +2 | |
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0.79 0.94 0.85 | 173 142 200 | 35 13 22 | / 49 22 27 / | 26 12 14 | -14 -9 -5 | 70% 69% 71% | 114 87 137 | 33% 44% 28% | 4 1 3 | 6 4 2 | -2 -3 +1 | |
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0.98 0.71 0.83 | 153 183 119 | 33 19 14 | / 44 20 24 / | 14 4 10 | -11 -1 -10 | 73% 79% 68% | 99 118 83 | 28% 28% 28% | 4 3 1 | 2 2 0 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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1.08 0.49 0.77 | 183 208 158 | 36 20 16 | / 51 21 30 / | 14 6 8 | -15 -1 -14 | 65% 62% 68% | 122 139 108 | 20% 25% 14% | 8 5 3 | 10 3 7 | -2 +2 -4 |
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PICK
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1.20 1.08 1.29 | 284 253 311 | 21 8 13 | / 17 9 8 / | 9 5 4 | +4 -1 +5 | 82% 80% 83% | 181 165 195 | 40% 30% 50% | 3 2 1 | 1 0 1 | +2 +2 0 | |
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0.91 0.85 0.95 | 198 217 184 | 15 8 7 | / 16 9 7 / | 8 0 8 | -1 -1 0 | 59% 40% 75% | 132 141 124 | 34% 35% 33% | 1 0 1 | 4 1 3 | -3 -1 -2 | |
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0.89 0.47 1.24 | 213 178 244 | 16 6 10 | / 16 10 6 / | 4 1 3 | 0 -4 +4 | 73% 50% 92% | 136 104 163 | 11% 16% 8% | 2 1 1 | 4 2 2 | -2 -1 -1 | |
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0.86 0.50 1.16 | 147 107 181 | 12 4 8 | / 14 9 5 / | 5 1 4 | -2 -5 +3 | 64% 50% 75% | 91 67 111 | 21% 33% 17% | 3 2 1 | 2 1 1 | +1 +1 0 | |
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0.86 0.30 1.33 | 184 99 256 | 16 3 13 | / 15 9 6 / | 5 2 3 | +1 -6 +7 | 73% 60% 83% | 120 60 170 | 32% 18% 38% | 1 0 1 | 1 1 0 | 0 -1 +1 |
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1.55 0.92 2.30 | 292 178 429 | 25 8 17 | / 16 10 6 / | 4 1 3 | +9 -2 +11 | 86% 75% 100% | 169 103 249 | 40% 44% 36% | 4 2 2 | 2 1 1 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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1.10 0.63 1.65 | 184 112 271 | 14 4 10 | / 15 11 4 / | 9 5 4 | -1 -7 +6 | 73% 50% 100% | 121 76 175 | 34% 40% 32% | 2 0 2 | 0 0 0 | +2 0 +2 | |
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0.90 0.82 0.99 | 161 177 142 | 13 8 5 | / 14 9 5 / | 5 1 4 | -1 -1 0 | 68% 67% 70% | 97 102 93 | 28% 33% 21% | 2 2 0 | 0 0 0 | +2 +2 0 | |
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0.88 0.78 0.99 | 176 155 202 | 13 6 7 | / 17 10 7 / | 9 4 5 | -4 -4 0 | 77% 75% 80% | 119 101 140 | 39% 50% 33% | 2 1 1 | 3 3 0 | -1 -2 +1 | |
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0.76 0.75 0.77 | 173 159 191 | 13 6 7 | / 18 11 7 / | 6 3 3 | -5 -5 0 | 55% 33% 80% | 109 107 112 | 27% 36% 17% | 2 2 0 | 5 1 4 | -3 +1 -4 |
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1.61 1.75 1.28 | 238 263 182 | 15 11 4 | / 8 5 3 / | 11 5 6 | +7 +6 +1 | 88% 83% 100% | 156 189 77 | 31% 37% 11% | 0 0 0 | 1 1 0 | -1 -1 0 | |
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1.51 0.89 2.98 | 239 139 481 | 14 6 8 | / 10 8 2 / | 13 6 7 | +4 -2 +6 | 88% 83% 100% | 159 87 331 | 40% 67% 29% | 2 1 1 | 2 2 0 | 0 -1 +1 | |
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1.40 1.77 0.50 | 273 317 170 | 17 14 3 | / 10 6 4 / | 2 1 1 | +7 +8 -1 | 71% 75% 60% | 186 228 84 | 35% 44% 11% | 3 1 2 | 1 0 1 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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1.06 0.96 1.29 | 217 208 238 | 13 9 4 | / 11 8 3 / | 9 4 5 | +2 +1 +1 | 76% 75% 80% | 149 148 151 | 25% 30% 15% | 0 0 0 | 4 3 1 | -4 -3 -1 | |
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0.89 0.56 1.67 | 190 150 286 | 12 6 6 | / 13 10 3 / | 4 3 1 | -1 -4 +3 | 65% 58% 80% | 114 91 172 | 14% 13% 15% | 1 1 0 | 3 3 0 | -2 -2 0 |
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1.02 1.95 0.64 | 196 423 102 | 11 7 4 | / 14 5 9 / | 6 1 5 | -3 +2 -5 | 88% 100% 83% | 142 286 82 | 38% 42% 31% | 2 1 1 | 0 0 0 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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0.92 0.93 0.92 | 214 238 204 | 14 5 9 | / 14 5 9 / | 6 2 4 | 0 0 0 | 59% 80% 50% | 136 132 137 | 42% 71% 33% | 1 0 1 | 1 0 1 | 0 0 0 | |
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0.73 0.01 1.15 | 130 30 173 | 8 0 8 | / 12 5 7 / | 4 1 3 | -4 -5 +1 | 47% 20% 58% | 98 31 127 | 47% 33% 50% | 3 0 3 | 2 1 1 | +1 -1 +2 | |
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0.66 0.01 1.04 | 172 33 231 | 9 0 9 | / 15 5 10 / | 7 2 5 | -6 -5 -1 | 59% 40% 67% | 112 23 150 | 16% 50% 14% | 2 0 2 | 1 1 0 | +1 -1 +2 | |
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0.66 0.71 0.64 | 211 234 202 | 10 3 7 | / 16 5 11 / | 4 2 2 | -6 -2 -4 | 76% 100% 67% | 150 178 138 | 15% 25% 12% | 3 1 2 | 2 1 1 | +1 0 +1 |
Head-to-head
Past Matches
If someone drops 52 here I will make out with BabyWizard
EDIT: WE DID ITTT https://www.vlr.gg/561955/verno/#8
TH 2-1 PRX
paper rex cannot beat good teams. ppl thought they were good after beating xlg, gx, and gold2 🤣🤣🤣
couldn't even beat FNATIC with a last-minute sub situation 🤣🤣🤣
most overrated team of all time.
ig prx is the most overrated team of all time with a masters trophy meanwhile teams like g2 and maybe th to an extent have infinite cocksuckers despite not winning an international trophy
Tarik&Ludwig is an invitational (also has way less prize pool. but you knew that).
EWC required qualifying through VCT Stage 1 - VCT Stage 1 was also used for Masters Toronto. If you are comparing EWC with Tarik&Ludwig, you are putting Masters Toronto at the same level as Tarik&Ludwig.
Please use your brain before typing.
the ones who overrate prx is yall motherfuckers, yall actin like prx is prime real madrid
They just had a bad match you call them overrated calling G2 gold 2 well you showed your knowledge lmao
now what dawg? gonna cry now??🤣🤣🤣 oh poor baby WHO CANT BEAT WHO?
who is overrated now, brother?
ChOkE lIkE tHaT????
what a joke. 🤡🤡🤡
pprx cant beat good team and you put 1-2 for TH, did u have mistake or what:(?
TH 2-1 PRX
1st map Lotus TH 10-13 PRX
2nd map Ascent TH 13-7 PRX
3rd map Bind TH 15-13 PRX
leaked script
there is delusion, there is whatever the fuck happened on Lotus and there's this
Like 100% Heretics wins this shit. If they are locked in they are winning, if they arent they are going to get shit on
most intelligent heretics enjoyer
there are no korean players on prx
lost 12 rounds in a row last map 😹😹😹
byebye throwRX
im done support these fuckers
let's go poo brothers
TH 2-0
Alhamdulilah for Shanks. Heretics can shit talk again and get their revenge 😂😂
TH bans a diff map. Let's say Bind. PRX bans Haven
TH picks Corrode PRX picks Lotus
TH bans Sunset PRX bans Ascent
Decider Abyss
both teams perma ban abbys no way they play decider abyss, th corrode isnt good and prx corrode is alr (could be decider but low chance of th picking it), highly doubt th bans bind, theyre bind is decent although this new comp isnt looking that great. if prx dont insta ban, th prob pick ascent since prx ascent weak and th ascent has looked nice in ewc and early champs so far.
map pool prob gonna be
ascent
lotus/bind
bind/corrode
hopefully shankuna works his magic
It's gonna be more like :
TH bans Abyss
PRX bans Corrode
TH picks Lotus
PRX picks Sunset
TH bans Bind
PRX bans Corrode
Ascent remains
My take..
TH ban Bind
PRX ban Haven
TH pick Ascent
PRX pick Sunset
TH ban Abyss
PRX ban Lotus
Decider Corrode
Remember TH 1st and 3rd theory 👀 PRX & MIBR confirmed 1st and 3rd?
EDIT: I meant MIBR, not NRG. But it's not gonna happen now.
PRX BAN ABBYS (PERMABAN)
TH BAN BIND (PRX 100% WR)
PRX PICK SUNSET (71% WR VS 67% WR) PRX 1-0 TH
TH PICK ASCENT (40% WR VS 75% WR) PRX 1-1 TH
PRX BAN HAVEN (4-13 VS FNATIC)
TH BAN LOTUS (NOT CONFIDENT)
DECIDER CORRODE (0% WR VS 67% WR) PRX 1-2 TH
PRX 1-2 TH ALL SCRIPTED
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Locked in th win 2-1, if not locked in they lose 0-2 with combined 5 rounds all depends on what kind of day theyre having
last game they played reeked of blatant throwing like with something pushing with an OP
they lost me 5 grand by losing a 9-1 lead against stand-in fnatic. This is Valorant Champions not some random pugs. Disgraceful gameplay
if prx play like they did before fnc prx 2-0 th
if prx play like they did against fnc th 2-1 prx
So if PRX plays like a team that almost lost to GX 2-0 and almost lost to G2 2-0 they will win? lol
Prx 2 0 TH
(Bind:13-4, Corrode 13 11)
Something and Patmen gonna go nuclear. Patmen gonna get 20+ both maps and Something gonna get 35 on the second.
Prx narrowly beat th 2-1, just to get demolished by drx and drx go on to win champs.
PRX (8-2) – Dominated most teams, only L was a late choke vs FNC on Lotus. Still look sharp: early fights, mid-rounds, and something's entries = space.
Heretics (7-3) – Can beat (G2/T1), but super volatile (lost to BBL/MIBR). Good prep team + get 1 extra day. Inconsistent though.
No recent H2H (only PRX 2-0 TH at Toronto – low value + some more way back).
Key players:
- PRX: something – drives tempo, cracks sites
- TH: MiniBoo – big first-blood threat
Map lean:
- Lotus → PRX favored
- Corrode → TH win con
- Ascent → 50/50 (depends if PRX gets entry value)
PRX still safer pick – Alecks owned the FNC loss, said fixes are coming. If PRX convert 5v4s + control tempo, they edge it 2-1. But TH can def steal it if they hit their prep.
I don’t think PRX will pick Lotus again after losing to Zeta, RRQ, and FNC. Instead, they’ll opt for new map comps to showcase their pocket strategies. My bet is they will pick Sunset then let Lotus to be the decider or be picked by TH
they shan’t fulfil, a 13-3 & 13-5 is destined upon them 🙏 hasta luego hereshits 🙏
I have travelled across multiple universes and not a single one of them had TH winning
Tbh th might do it both team looked good but not perfect kinda like stoppable force against movable object
Heretics , another coinflip , i don't want you to win just play as you usualy play
If th pulls this off I'm pretty sure they could get champs. Last year flashbacks lmao
Whoever wins goes to grand final, if heretics played like they did in the last 2 match its easy 2-0 for PRX.
He's had a bet with FNS, cancelled it after Alfa was out, but I've seen him rooting for PRX before they played FNATIC still, Check his twitter.
Basically PRX would be losing 2 games in a row and be out of the competition since he wore their t-shirt.
this is just average prx fan being pessimistic dumbass. fake fan is the one shitting on them
Valorant should be played only with sheriff it seems. Every team is converting the ecos, can't win buy rounds. Same thing every tournament every year.
round 17. 4v2. advantage for PRX, but still managed to lose the round. fvcking scripted. LMAO
Valorant so rigged esport... idk.. every match same scrypt... won enemy map -> lose yours -> tbh in 3rd map.. often its 1 side lose so hard like 3-9 and then very ez win
9-7 to 9-12
9-1 TO 9-13
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9RX
9 AWARE
9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX 9RX
okay prx if you pull the same stuff on lotus you did yesterday this flair is coming off
welcome to vlr crypto casino esports
damn its so fixed its insane
"pro" team get 2 rounds defense on ascent own pick when the odds on 5 0 score was 1.2
and then win on defense on BIND like its NOTHING
that "clutch" was so funny PRX didt even shot back
kekw
only degenerates they might think that this its all 4 real
its so funny that you can literally spot csfrog gambler degens like this, it happened on a match thread in Toronto too
Woot doing a Kaajak then back to Lotus decider map. Ah sh1t here we go again. Last Lotus of TH they only got 3 rounds and Last Lotus of PRX was yesterday's PTSD. the script writers absolute cinema
3 Thrifties, 4v2 vs Sheriff, 3v2 Post Plant against low w00t, Jinggg's whiff against w00t. Absolute disasterclass in late rounds, i hope Heretics win it all. So these bums can go back farming regional.
PRX is done for this tournament. From looking unstoppable, suddenly these nerves. Haven't looked convincing a single round the last 2 games. Something isn't composed at all.
Nah they gonna return to normal now, stomping TH something like 4-8 this half and Ezpz
Just as I type that in 1-4 they started shooting back like they used to. I hope this reply doesn't reverse reverse jinxes them again.
Always thought davai was just another magisk. . but he solid asf
Might be PRX most important player
benj became a frog jumping around and did not even launch his ult that 12th round KEKW
just free riens and that's it
i hope he finds a better team in the future
the fact that people keep saying EWC was a legit win for them is crazy, we all know that shit was ran by the saudi mafia.. and this champs performance proves it
I’d put it on a similar level to winning SOOP or Red Bull Home Ground. Cool, but lower-level
It was legit but it was with ping delay and nobody can tell me he wouldn't grind harder for a major than for EWC even tho you might win good money there. I mean did you see cheating at EWC? I didn't. And if someone go illegal with the Saudis def. no Spanish org. I just saw plenty of good matches but you can't rate it as a major because of no lan server standards as simple as that.
This tournament has been INSANE with the momentum shifts. I don't know what to think about this. I am just here to enjoy. Wow that's insane
https://preview.redd.it/meet-potential-team-v0-beon12mw3llf1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=95aaaf6e4a8fc44d3286df17a9ae7d1b900fc03b
(credit to u/Mythalieon for the meme)
looks like my flair won't be coming off
Heresh1t didn't change their Lotus comp and got 1 more round than their last Lotus against GX with 3 rounds only
what a trash team.....they can only talk shit and crying in socials
just free riens and that's it
RieNs Wasted Potential. He won't achieve his peak with this team.
Wheeew I thought TH gonna smoke us but thank God we didn't choke that much like against leaf and friends.
we ♥ u TH anyways
Team tHrowers classic, good to see worst org of the tournament finally eliminated
Patmen and d4v41 really stepped up on attacking side when Jing and something cant find their frags, really commendable.
Not to mention Forsaken’s multi fragging in defense
Track.by.track. LFG!!
wo0t, Reins o7
Wo0t played crazy but I'm glad PRX won this. I just hope that some fans would be more chill. Bantering, hyping each other up and trashtalk is part of esports. Yesterday kaajak meant PatMen made something dumb and called him so and some PRX kpop-style hardcore fans in FNS chat didn't want to see it as normal and started insulting him but today when Pat insulted MiniBoo just with an plain insult they wrote "so funny" etc. - kinda hypocritial.
But yeah... GG!
Agree, trash talking in a match is normal. Outside of the arena these players are talking to each other like normal human beings.
Btw.: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2BouYSboAAyfHF?format=jpg&name=large
PRX and TH both just wholesome directly after the match.
PRX went from losing 12 rounds in a row yesterday to winning 12 rounds in a row today , overcoming yesterday's mistakes. GGWP!
TH, the most arrogant team but a shitshow when it comes to performing.
Good thing they won tiktok tourney where most teams didn't even wanna go, otherwise their careers would be over by now.
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