if they lose vs dfm its joever alr better start packing

c9 paid 6 or 9 milions for perkz pretty sure XD and he was there for a year

stop with the coping already its been more than 2 years already and he was trash all of this time he is washed up he belong in tier 2 his current PEAK performance in t1 is average for everyone else y'all get this or not smh. He isn't a "goat", he isn't consistent , he rarely succesfully entries , has way more FD than FK as a duelist , on top of that if u put him on anythins else than duelist he looks like a typical D1 with good aim, hence why he is not flexible he,s one dimensional , he sticks to all the op angles and still loses there is no saving point for him, he was GOOD when the whole team was AMAZING and was playing AROUND HIM and its not like he was the main contributor the team was playing in a way to ALLOW him to get kills and play agressive whilst also being ahead of the meta for a while , ever since he went to a team that couldn't give him every resource and way of getting kills like envy/optic did bcs they knew how to abuse op chamber and jett at the time, he FAILED. individually he never achieved or showed anything special outside of one of the best teams at the time

well i guess but at least make the groups even number wise no? and i think its just bad that there are 4 really good teams in one group that will never meet before, like g2 sentinels would bring a lot of viewers same with loud nd nrg

But it's essentialy the same amount of games kinda no since they play 2times? but the point is that one group has 5 teams and one has 6 how is that fair when only 3 can move on from groups and now The likes of Sen G2 Nrg C9 will never meet before playoffs ppl watch those games just as much as any other format ppl just didnt watch like KRU vs MIBR when they were both last regardless i think it wouldnt be bad if the groups were EVEN both seed wise and number of teams like for example u get a group that gets last season's 1st 4rd 5th and 7th 9th 11th and the second group gets 2nd 3th 6th 8th and 10th 12th or som like that or generally a mix where one group doesnt have 1nd 2nd and 3rd but since they have 11 teams for whatever reason its not possible to make it even or fair for anyone making it somehow fair that its unfair for everyone lmao

Actually why are there groups? The format where everyone played everyone and it was just top 6 in overall score was way better especially since there are 11 teams and one group has 1 team less this is SO dumb

you're literally delulu you'll see, sure they might not cheer for na teams but they def will for geng prx

Typical scripted playoffs draw so that one region won't be bombed out instantly but didnt give emea teams no bad teams and all of them went to na they did win fair and square w each other but still a bit interesting draws

wp for sen dunno why nrg let split go thru knowing that sentinels win vs almost everyone on that map

who is saying anything about nrg? yeah they were 4th in masters tokyo and then 9-12th at champions lol. keep coping tho. also you're restarted lmao tenz world champ? where? when did he win anything apart from 1 masters XD! you're delulu he qualified for 1 champions and went 9-12th

Bro says Sentinels S tier when the last time they went to a international was 3 yrs ago and won other then that they went 12 and 8th in na last place in lock in didnt make it out of groups in champions placed 5th-8th mastes they only won 1 international EVER and it was 3 yrs ago XD (they usually bomb out) yeah indeed they never made it out of groups outside of 1 masters 3yrs ago where they won

when did Sentinels prove anything at an international lmao? 3 years ago? Also what other team apart of loud and eg were top 4? and u talking about apac like its an argument

Lmao Sen and prx S tier the only S tier part about sentinels is Sacy and Zekken

Emea whole kick off is like 5 days less because they dont need 5 more days of breaks like NA soyboys cope harder

but i checked his stats and i said where he placed out of like 80 players he was top 15 and then out of like 50 in playofss he was top8 u cant deny it even if he carried 1 map out of 3 or 4 which other player trully fully carried their maps? no one. they were either all decent or ardiss was way above sometimes s0m and crashies but victor and fns were horrendous especially igl'ing he did really bad

Bili Bili enjoyers are all gigachads
Same for Navi my bro
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oh yeah he was just top 15 player in the league while playing kj and sage and raze which he barely ever played before (in a new league with a new team in a new country across the ocean) top 8 in playoffs i agree that s0m was insane and deserved to get a team in tier 1 anytime of the day

potter and jawgemo are great but the rest aint it chief

tf do you mean when he was almost never the worst person in the team and many times he carried their asses like half of their maps he was first in the scoreboard and he was put on kj and sage too lmao and even on kj he had some maps where he was top fragging nrg fraud core only crashies was good

tbh it was victor and fns

yeah and they have zyppan raze

nrg could never
ardiis always has been

they wont even make it to masters lmao

hahahahah tbh he almost never was the worst player in the team no matter what he played but welp NA fans ofc would blame the import and won't praise him if he carries instead they will praise the na igl

they did lol nrg vs edg even twice pretty sure

he is still good on jett and kj his breach is also decent but navi needed an awper and they got him

indeed i think fns deserves to be a Tier 1 igl but ppl gave shit to ardiss for not performing at like a top 5 in the world level whilst their play style and na culture just didnt fit him yet he was still really good and ppl still gave him shit idk how he literally switched to a whole different region with a different play style into a whole new team and performed decently well no wonder he went back to navi where ppl give him what he wants and believe in him he doesn't have to prove anything but he still proves he is one of the best awp'ers and i'd even say his anchor ability is top notch aswell+ his banter is lovable great player to have for any team tbh

almost every agent is good in a certain scenario but ardiis is just cracked tbh he is one of the best awp'ers out there tbh which makes chamber look broken

Ardiis is still so underrated he is insane on op like one of the best awp'ers out there his flicks are the most insane out of any tbh even kang kang got gapped by him
Nrg put him on kj and shit everytime he played jett or smth agressive he performed

they're coping they cant just troll they are getting paid for being proffesionals
ofc they can take it light hearted and dont try hard but they also cant just straight up troll they would maybe win with g2 with like 13-10 if they werent trolling that's still nothing to be proud of, G2 would be 10-0'd by nrg

Mmmm love me some bo3' single elim 1 game in playoffs lmao win 1 bo3 in playoffs = masters madrid
lovely

tbh this format makes sense only if the play ins would be all bo5 then the map differential would be more accurate and less rng

yeah tbh skye/breach would be much better but gekko is def op af maybe its easier for them to combo flashes and to kill off util destroying their plant while also they know that g2 plays viper so kayo counters her

i said win diff lil bro which means they should have more game wins not maps

huh wdym seeding in any sport? they literally are only put in a different pool doesnt mean they dont compete fairly they have to play the same amount of games

Gekko is so broken on sunset its insane his ult and util has so much space to safely be used and picked up

Its not fair lol because it was never like that in the past even if your team was the best the whole year u would compete the same way with other in a NEW SEASON but this time out of nowhere teams get an advantage they could implement it first at a tournament instead of the fckn qualifiers and then your season is over for half a year like lmao

that is a valid point aswell honestly valorant formats are one of the worst out there out of any esport game how does riot does some god like format for worlds and even leagues but fck up so bad with valorant for no reason at all they could easily increas their air time make everything more spicy but not in a bad way yet they choose all the worst formats

mibr had a tuff group aswell but playins were the same but the format is honestly bad bcs It should always be win differential instead of map differential i'd agree it would make sense if it was bo5 and not bo3 u could argue map pool and bans fck every team more or less than seeding too much rng when it could been solved by a different format

artizN popped off BUT JIZZ did 68/49 /14 a +19 performance in bo3 and +5 on fk fd his skye was insane map 1 which propably saved sen's ass

13-8 13-9 for g2 and they make it over sen or they just need 2-0 no matter the round diff?

if g2 wins 2-0 mibr/g2 can still make it?

lmao sadly they didnt turn a new leaf

ArtziN pop off tbh

Classic the guard chokers from 10-8 to 10-11 losing a thrifty and a 2vs1 in the middle of the side like lmao

its incredible how they manage to throw winnable rounds like its nothing either line up or go 1 by 1 from the same spot in a 2v1

Disgusting to put in simply

yeah maybe but they got literally gapped by mibr there is no way their scrims were going THAT well on that map

yeah yeah im lost i meant c0m was the secondary/mid round igl for eg and is for lev he's a sova player mainly and his sova util is one of the best in the game with that being said he's def not overrated

demon1 was the best rookie in the world this is not a comparsion worth to be made im saying he CAN be demon1 which naturally implies he is not as good as him but his aim and explosiveness is just as good as aspas,demon1 or derke +oxy is younger and newer to the game + he still has school or just finished it he was in a team with 10 players to learn from and one of the best coaches that year demon is closer to being a complete player oxy is just starting to learn Also he's literally a rookie aswell since its his first time playing in the T1 league just bcs he had a year in T2 doesnt make him experienced at all and he never had the pleasure to play with the best teams out there to learn with or from lol even in other esports players like that are considered rookies