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Mortadelo

He’s gonna be on stream talking about the off season in like 15 min. Do you guys want me to update this with a summary?

It’s in Spanish but here’s the link https://www.twitch.tv/sergiofferra Also Here https://www.twitch.tv/lembo6

I'm gonna try to be as accurate as possible with the translations and providing contexts, everyone else feel free to correct me and ask

Participants:
Anonimotum
Lembo (Spanish leaker)
Marco (UCAM CEO, loves to leak shit)
SergioFerra (KOI streamer that has been retransmitting their market and leaking stuff)

General:

-Anonimotum can play around and give hints but can't be specific because he has a contract to give the exclusive on Sheep Esports, the others are free to say anything
-Anonimotum not sure if there will be reports today, has 4/5 reports half written but will depend on the deals getting completed
-Anonimotum answering a rumor that TH got offered 750k for Woot: The market is not at that point, for that amount of money you can sign 5 players and make the craziest superteam in the world
-Anonimotum hasn't seen or believe there will be any offers for players of over 200/300k. There's buyouts around that amount but no one will pay them
-Many fake rumors about players for hidden interests, agents, etc

EMEA

-Flickless has been doing advanced try outs with 2 VCT teams out of this 4 VIT/FNC/TL/NAVI. Buyout smaller than xeus and several teams that have proven to Marco they have the money

-TH: No changes

-FUT: Not looking into FUT, doesn't think they will move much but hasn't researched much

-VIT: Wanted Bonkar, but bonkar wanted to stay in NA. Faded was the 2nd option from the begging, they were waiting for TSM to get eliminated
Derke less likely to end up in VIT, VIT offering less money and FNC does not want to sell Derke to EMEA. NRG seem likely (not said by anonimotum)
VIT is waiting for answers from many top players other than Derke
Sayf not guaranteed to stay, most likely yes but not guaranteed, will probably know things soon. Depends if VIT manages to close top signings they are planning or not will help the decision
This weekend is key, they could close 1 or 2 signings

ANONIMOTUM DISCLAIMER: He never said Sayf is leaving, stop threatening people and behave

-FNC: Kaajak has tried out a lot with FNC, but everyone wants him and is gonna be expensive af
Anonimotum asked if Derke is the only move for FNC and has refused to answer (make of it what you will, could just be playing around)

-KC: KC and KRU were always the 2 main options for Saadhack, at first he liked the KRU project more, but eventually KC offered a bit more money and Enghh was key. Also wanted a change of air, he felt like he already completed Americas. Fanbase was also important. Had good interest in another EMEA team for a couple days btw
Anonimotum: KC has an interest in someone KOI is not gonna like. (I infer is Minny) but they're going slow
Marco: Believes they will have 5 different nationalities on the team (he believes the Minny thing won't go through)
Marco says great interest in Elite, but anonimotum says he is not as sure anymore it will go through

-M8: Many teams fighting for Natank, don't know if they'll be able to retain him
SergioFerra and Lembo say the screenshot about Scream screaming with M8 is fake. He might still be trying out but the screenshot was fake. Neither of the 2 believes he will get signed

-NAVI: Waiting for Happy
Hiro was a power move, they overpaid to get him soon and be able to convince other players easier. Also helps convince Happy to leave m80 even if they ascend, not sure if it will be enough tho.
Hiro had offers from KC too, but NAVI pays a lot more
SergioFerra: Hiro will be top 5 best paid players in EMEA
Ange1 stays (unless someone pays his buyot xD)
Trying out natank

-KOI: Grubinho and Sheydos(flex) stay.
Speculation: Insinuated Minny is not 100% done, but SergioFerra said the other day they had a 3rd player 100% which I suppose it's Flyuh
Sergio says he believes kamo will end up staying, but doesn't truly know
Reports coming soon
Another team is very interested in Kamo

-TL: Moving but nothing specific has been said. They are trying out around 20 people and they're gonna try to close people by blocks

-GX: Click is the favorite for the duelist but not done yet. Anonimotum says he is not sure he will be the signing. Xeus seems another candidate, but his buyout is more than 80k.
A lot of teams have tried to sign Cloud but he decided to stay. GX CEO says an orange team, a yellow team and a white and blue team. (FNC/NAVI/TL I suppose)

Apeks: Wasn't specifically spoken about, only that many many teams want Kajaak

Americas:

Marco said Aspas buyout is higher than 250k but everyone doubts it will be paid
Lembo: Oxy was G2's first option but it has switched, Jawgemo is the main option now. NRG is the main org for Derke in NA. Bang has been trying out for SEN
Anonimotum: Don't believe C9 will let OXY go. 2 teams were interested in Derke in NA. Bang has 3 offers in NA
Run out of time, will talk about it more in depth another day

APAC:

There is a buyout higher than Aspas in APAC

End of the Thread. It's been 3h, I've tried to be as accurate as possible with the summary and the translation. Again feel free to correct me on anything, I just wanted to inform y'all because I thought it's good content. Ask any questions if you guys want.

And follow Anonimotum , Lembo, Marco and Sergio

#2
IHaveAnswers
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Yes

#3
BNJMN_21
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Yes please

#4
xaib
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yes

#5
n1cf
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yes please if hes gon do an q&a type of thing can you pls ask him about turkish teams pwease

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Mortadelo
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He’s gonna speak with SergioFerra I suppose he’ll read chat at some point but don’t think I’ll get him to read me. They’ll probably speak a little on every team

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PamelaChu
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Eres un crack Mortadelo voy a verme el strim en 2x xD

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cloudberry
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That would be pretty cool if you can make it happen. If not, though, then no worries. Up to you

#10
Mortadelo
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Well I’m gonna watch it anyway so yeah

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cloudberry
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👍

#7
catNmouse
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Yes

#8
leboi
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anonimotum stream or talk tuah podcast

#11
Mortadelo
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He’s gonna hop on someone else’s stream

#12
catNmouse
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sergios stream right

#15
Mortadelo
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Yeah

#13
awaky
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can you send the link of the stream here?

#16
Mortadelo
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https://www.twitch.tv/sergiofferra

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awaky
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thanks

#14
Er3ngenes1s
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give the twitch pls

#17
Mortadelo
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https://www.twitch.tv/sergiofferra

#18
anyr
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new leaks tonight or no ?

#21
BigTiddyMilf
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Yes, please do.

#22
Syr0m
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goat

#23
catNmouse
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Hoping there are americas news

#24
catNmouse
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anything about narrate?

#25
Mortadelo
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Well that was already a given, can't have Saadhack and narrate

#161
PamelaChu
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I bet Saadhak has a EU passport or is able to get one.

#164
Mortadelo
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Doesn’t work like that, even if he does once he has been regional in Americas he will always be an import everywhere else

#82
Rocky54
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He probably already signed with Sen

#26
catNmouse
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Did lembo say anything so far?

#29
Mortadelo
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They're all commenting team by team

#27
catNmouse
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Ok 750k for wo0t is crazy wtf 💀

#28
Mortadelo
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Yeah people make up some weird stuff kekw

#32
catNmouse
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I love wo0t but not even aspas is worth that much, people should learn from what happened to yay 💀

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saebr
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how much was the buyout for yay?

#35
catNmouse
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1 million

he got dropped cause they couldn’t afford him

#38
xaib
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wait this 1 million buyout is public info?

#41
catNmouse
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Yes, money issues literally the only reason they dropped him, this was when players were getting overpaid so it’s no surprise he got offered that much and c9 couldn’t keep him so they just dropped him completely

#39
saebr
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fr ?! that's absolutely crazy. i'm surprised that this year's buyouts are all <200k since that buyout is so high, but i suppose that just shows how good yay was

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Aminbg02
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im kindaa dumb but c9 hadd to pay yay 1mill right or who hadd to

#30
love_trial
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i feel like at some point the players are just spreading rumors themselves to buy themselves better leverage lmao

#31
anyr
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no derke to Vitality 🙏

#33
catNmouse
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If fnatic doesn’t want to sell derke to emea, looks like NRG or G2 only good americas options

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Huitzilopochtli
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I would love to see derke in na

#163
Congo1
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Weird

#36
BTM_Wipr
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@Mortadelo we gonna need a summary they speak too fast for me bro, I can't understand shit

#37
Mortadelo
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That's what I'm doing bro. I'm writing down everything they say that's relevant. They're also giving their thoughts on moves and stuff but I can't type that much xD

#43
BigTiddyMilf
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You're doing great brother

#44
BTM_Wipr
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yeah whatever you can do it's enough ! thanks

(I saw zyppan minny kaquka in the chat too we are not the only leaks addict lol)

#40
anyr
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whats the thing with Sayf
he wants to leave if Vitality doesnt sign good players ?? ☠️☠️☠️

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Mortadelo
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Probably just wants to make sure it's a competitive project idk, no clue

#45
siphonval
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thanks for doing this

#46
zombzino
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do u know if they're gonna cover americas soon? also thanks for doing it its very appreciated

#47
Mortadelo
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Haven't specifically said it but I think so

#48
cyk
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There is a buyout higher than Aspas in APAC>

Primmie?

#49
regalicera
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También dijeron que Saadhak cree que ha conquistado todo lo que hay en Americas y quiere un nuevo desafío

#50
Mortadelo
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lo añado

#51
catNmouse
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did they specify which emea team saadhak was also interested in or no?

#52
regalicera
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No they just said that there were "some"

#53
Mortadelo
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Nope, he did try out with KOI 1 day, but I'm not sure if that's what they meant

#54
Scar98
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me he perdido el stream y no está el vod por ahora así que gracias bro

#55
Mortadelo
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Sergio no lo sube hasta acabar pero el de Lembo si que esta si te sirve

#56
catNmouse
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Hiro being a top 5 most paid player in EMEA is crazy ☠️ FNATIC really does change your life huh

#57
Denjisideals
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GE?

#58
beani
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much appreciated ty!

#59
Nachtel
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the buyout higher than aspas in APAC is 100% yay lol

#60
Mortadelo
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I doubt it, yay's market is not a thing. I think it's more likely to be texture, something, or someone actually good idk. But Ig could be yay
The way he said I also interpreted it as if it weren't impossible for someone to pay it (China). But that is more me speculating

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BTM_Wipr
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" SergioFerra: Hiro will be top 5 best paid players in EMEA" this gonna steer some shit, cause 4 out of 5 players of TH should be be paid more than him for sure xd. and I don't think they are and I don't think even any player at TH is paid more than him.

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Mortadelo
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Being better doesn't mean you get paid the most tbh. TH players contracts are from last year. I suppose next off season they will have to renew and then it's when it will get dangerous xD

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Scar98
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TH still have rookie contracts, they are not paid a lot

#63
catNmouse
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Did stream end?

#64
ErCharlie
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No

#65
catNmouse
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Are they still talking about off season?

#66
ErCharlie
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Yeap. They are clarifying something about Vitality atm.

#67
anyr
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neo (vitality owner) got angry about anonimotum on twitter ☠️☠️

#69
catNmouse
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tf did bro do ☠️

oh i see, some idiots blew what he said out of proportion

#70
ErCharlie
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Because some fans were spreading things that are false

#71
Mortadelo
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Yeah I think people panicked spread misinformation about what he said about Sayf. I'm trying to be as accurate as possible on this thread

#68
Mortadelo
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Yeah, I hope the way I wrote it was clear enough. I think it was fairly accurate but idk

#72
nobody___100
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hiro of bumea, ange1 gonna need some hard carrying

#74
kamisavitar
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APAC has a higher buyout💀💀
Ig its Something? Or Buzz? For Hyunmin

#76
Dieg00
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Something and texture likely

#78
nobody___100
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dawg
100% its yay

#86
kamisavitar
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Nobody wants yay

#83
ASTEROIDCHILD
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im like 80% sure its primmie, talon want to make him the superstar brand of the org and already contracted him for another 3 years

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kamisavitar
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Could be
PRX Primmie
And T1 Something

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Warlordwibz
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it's probably something, EMEA are first world countries, they have money. You can't put APAC level buyout for something (EMEA player).

#75
catNmouse
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KOI is building alot of hype ngl

#77
ErCharlie
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Sergio knows how to hype around Koi pretty well hahaha

#79
Rocky54
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What I get from this is Navi probably gonna be trash 😂

#81
Mortadelo
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Well I kinda get the opposite, they have the most or close to the most money in EMEA

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Rocky54
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Not about money I'm talking how far they going next year I don't see potential you over paid for hiro who is mid and dropped suy while keeping ang1
The only way I see them going far if they singed Cracked duelist like xeus or izzy

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Mortadelo
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Fair enough

#80
toofan1
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There is a buyout higher than Aspas in APAC

??who tf

#99
welikefortniteandvalorant
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probably one of the guys on ur team brotha. somebody who has a great texture :D

#146
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Either that or one of yay and scary cuz bleed

#84
thenutoriousPRO
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how is HIRO one of the highest paid players

#88
catNmouse
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navi speaks money bro

#90
espeon
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this offseason might be the craziest yet

#92
catNmouse
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Looks like there won’t be any reports today, all good

#93
Mortadelo
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I don't think so but it could still be if something gets closed.
He has also been very busy with the stream today

#95
Congo1
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i have heard 0 news n suygetsu. wonder whats up there. coule be a great fit for vit

#97
Mortadelo
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Could, no clue

#98
Congo1
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wish i understood spanish

#100
Congo1
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yo why they arguing so aggressively lol

#101
Mortadelo
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Not arguing just both wanted to speak about the same thing. They're talking about spanish community support to Fitinho

#102
Congo1
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i have read some delusinal opinions in chat on that topic lol

#103
Mortadelo
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Oh for sure, people overrate and underrate our players at the same time, no in between

#104
Huitzilopochtli
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ty bro for ur infos, im hyped for click that guy is insane

#105
Liem
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we need a german guy in emea t1 please

#106
Huitzilopochtli
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yeah and hes seriously rly good

#107
Huitzilopochtli
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mortadelo, do u think they will give us anymore infos today?

#108
Mortadelo
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I'm still updating a couple things, but overall no, they're closing soon

#109
Huitzilopochtli
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ty bro, ur infos are very appreciated

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catNmouse
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Looks like bang might play for them in red bull

#111
LouBag
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thank you

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Mortadelo
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That's it for today. It's been 3h, I've tried to be as accurate as possible with the summary and the translation. Again feel free to correct me on anything, I just wanted to inform y'all because I thought it's good content. Ask any questions if you guys want.

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minte
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thank you goat

#114
BigTiddyMilf
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Thank you!!!

#115
Huitzilopochtli
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from ur own perspective, how likely do u think gx sign Click? and how likely do u think Derke goes to NA/NRG (seen in this way, an expensive emea buyout might be a medium price for Na?)

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Idk, if I had to guess who it's gonna be with the information we have rn I would say Click. But I can't give you a %

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Liem
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Click also trialed for Navi so this might be an option too

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Mortadelo
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Yeah but I kinda feel like NAVI has better options. But yeah, a possibility

#117
x_knowitall39_x
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thanks a lot buncha cool info

#118
asdtk
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True spanish GOAT bro. Thank you!

#121
Congo1
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i have confidential information that they are frauds and Vit Derke is a done deal

#127
Mortadelo
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That would be a crazy superteam ngl

#125
Liem
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goat

#116
Johan
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Mortadelo la cabra 🐐

#119
annoybrocc02
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VIT SUYGETSU would be so sick

#120
Denggysaurus
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Has hiro really performed at a level where he deserves to be top 5 paid in EMEA?

#122
Congo1
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maybe not top 5 but he deserves a high salary for sure

#124
Mortadelo
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That's just how the market goes sometimes. For example, the TH guys probably deserve more, but they hace contract, until they renew they won't be making that much

#123
thenutoriousPRO
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losing bang would be badddd, very few good smokes rn
unless we could get zander or maybe jawg
maybe even demon1

#128
EseemedRes1180
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Scream screaming with m8 was funny lmao

#129
Mortadelo
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Scrimming* corrector. In my defense I was typing fast xD

#130
Aayan
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Super excited for KC Saadhak, will be cheering for him fs (exception for fnatic cuz im biased)

I'm guessing the APAC buyout is yay, he said on stream that his buyout was beyond ridiculous

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cloudberry
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If KC is looking to sign Minny then I'm assuming that means they're putting avez on recon

Also damn I didn't realize teams were fighting over nataNk. Is he really that big of a prospect?

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I think Elite is more likely than Minny tbh. But regardless, I would also assume Avez is ini/flex

And yeah man, natank is insane, also he has even tried out as IGL, which I don't think will be the case, but my point being he has that capability and must be great comm wise/mid round

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cloudberry
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I know avez can flex (I mean, come on, look at his agent history) but the reason I think he's recon is because Saadhak is probably flex

Also nataNk might be the next Scream if that's the case

#139
Mortadelo
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Yeah their roles will be totally fine. Also Saadhack joined right after they closed Avez, which probably means he approves of him, and that means a lot

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cloudberry
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Damn that's sick

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that’s cool, will be fun to see saadhak and avez help each other out with calling

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PamelaChu
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Saadhak va a estrimear en francés ahora? 😂

#134
Huitzilopochtli
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hes very flexible and can shoot quite well but i was suprised aswell, they couldve opted for T2 "Natanks" like Wackie or YaboiLewis, who are also very flexible and much more affordable

#137
cloudberry
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wackie 100% needs a team (same with waddle) but unfortunately there's only 60 slots in tier 1 per region (which sucks, because there's probably several hundred people that deserve it)

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Huitzilopochtli
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Wackie is such an incredible and flexible players, its seriously such a shame, i can also see him going to NA and like playing Asunas role (imo hes much better and comfy on those agents)

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cloudberry
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I can definitely see him being an import, yeah. Hopefully there were some good scouts watching the EMEA Ascension group stage

#138
Huitzilopochtli
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Mortadelo, have u heard any rumors abt Lime? bcs it would be a shame if he cant join T1 (he was insane this season and best player in Dach stat and impact wise and even Neilzinho wanted him in TH originally but they went with MiniBoo bcs Lime needed a buyout, but now he should be free agent)

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Aayan
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Lime was really good yeah I hope to see him in tier 1

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Mortadelo
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He has definitely had tryouts, I've hard KOI tried him out for example, but I don't think he's an option anymore. If I'm being totally honest I don't think he'll get picked up, but if he doesn't it'll be because there were better options this time. Competition for duelist is insane

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Huitzilopochtli
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ive seen he had tryouts in Liquid, maybe they pick him up? bcs Keiko been playing lots of smokes lately and Lime is seriously insane (Demon1 level)

#153
Mortadelo
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Maybe but I doubt it

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frappzlul
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"Theres a buyout higher than aspas in APAC" its yay /j

#148
cloudberry
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You're probably right. BLEED's probably tryna make as much money as they can off of him 😭

#150
brahianv
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is not y0y everyone already know this guy is a fraud

#149
Ryukzerr
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Man how is liquid so confidential are leakers being held a gun at their head lmfao?

#151
whoaskedbruh
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the leaks comes from the agent most probably. so until there an agreement nothing to leak (at least anonimotum won't leak anything not confirmed )

  • Liquid hired a new coach I think he still under the process of trialing I guess
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Targu1n
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all the leaks we get are based on trials (most of the times from players who didnt end up making it tbh)
but ye liquid are in early stages so its not worth leaking since theyre essentially playing 10 mans atm for trials

fnc gonna do 10 mans too, so looking forward to their leaks once screenshots get out

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whoaskedbruh
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am talking about real leaks not trial bullshit, cause right now all teams are doing trials (maybe Derke wont trial with GX cause you know he wont go there for example but most cases a player in the market will trial everywhere he can, so it's doesn't mean shit)

#157
Targu1n
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ye a lot of those leaks come exactly from there

Im not in the loop with current reporters (aka Anonimotum) so idk exactly how they operate nowerdays, but in the past one of the best and most reliable methods for getting and confirming leaks was talking to other players who were in the trials

players who feel cheated out of a spot can be quite willing to talk

#154
ErCharlie
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Vaya cabra eres Mortadelo la verdad

#158
Miseryz
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y0y

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cyk
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Thanks for your work

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CGX
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@Mortadelo can you elaborate on this :

M8: Many teams fighting for Natank, don't know if they'll be able to retain him
SergioFerra and Lembo say the screenshot about Scream screaming with M8 is fake. He might still be trying out but the screenshot was fake. Neither of the 2 believes he will get signed

when u said Neither of the 2 believes that ScreaM won’t get signed, do they mean he’s not joining Gentle Mates (M8) or that he won’t get signed by any EMEA Tier 1 org

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They meant it as if they believe M8 has better options. Which I guess also means everyone else does too

Me personally I think he's gonna need a year in tier 2 before someone gives him a chance aswell

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Im assuming the buyout higher than aspas is primmie. The CEO already said that he is going to keep and nurture primmie.

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why is GE being so secretive or there is no leaks and only trials are going on?

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I suppose they don't have as much info on APAC

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