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WHY DOES FROST HATE KOREANS

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telegrxm

lowkey everything i'm seeing from him is subtly hostile towards korean teams or korea whilst mind you he is responsible for literally all the beef that he's ever had with korean teams

most recent things:
https://x.com/GlobalEsportsIn/status/2014513663051509815?s=20
'wow this team is literally funded by a korean city and i think we diff them in every regard and theres no way they win'

https://x.com/VALO2ASIA/status/2014606677778288980?s=20
'no korean team thought he was good enough?????' (either a) implying they all stupid or b) implying the literally every korean player they might've signed instead is worse

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delighted
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t0rmi

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telegrxm
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delighted new identity for this season isn't popping off

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delighted
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I'm losing my shit bro I am so fucking done with the esport so mush so that I applied for an internship and got accepted

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telegrxm
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employment before spending another second on vlr.gg fair enough 😭

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EpicGamerGamingEpicly
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?? udotan is korean and no korean team picked him up so yea hes calling the korean teams stupid whats wrong with that

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telegrxm
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guy who has falsely accused korean teams of scrim sharing and the works now also calling them stupid (nothing has happened to warrant anything)

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EpicGamerGamingEpicly
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fuck youre right hes racist we should kill him NOW

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vibemerchant_25
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udotan not getting picked up did happen though and even if his earlier beef was unwarranted it doesn't mean his comments on udotan aren't valid. Besides it's a completely harmless beef it just makes the matches more interesting to watch. Don't get ragebaited too much on the internet my guy

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i forget reading comprehension is lost on everyone so if somebody tidily constructs an argument they look like they have a 10 foot cross ready to crucify their enemies on

meanwhile while typing this out my expression and feelings the entire time were literally :I

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inuis
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frost just pot stirs and your falling for obvious bait

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Fletch
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Why do you claim to have "tidily constructed an argument" when you have provided 2 clips and then made a severe assumption against frost's character by implying he is a racist? I'm sorry but by no metric can you call this an argument. More so you have an opinion about frost and you found weak evidence to justify yourself feeling this way.

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InYourDreams
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I agree udotan is such a good talent but none is poaching him nor trying to buy him

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bearmans
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exactly my thought. not a single tier1 team looked onto him last year. so GE took action.

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WjFROST0
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Touch some grass man, go outside

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seven_glazer
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0/8

read moar pls

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uwukitten
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on a side note, I can guarantee you at least 90% of korean players are racist

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hoboclap
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GenG would never

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serot
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on a side note, I can guarantee you that at least 90 percent of EMEA is racist
like what the fuck are you saying bro, crazy unsubstantiated allegations

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uwukitten
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the trio of Japan/China/Korea are generally racist and you know it, fym unsubstantiated allegations πŸ˜‚ try being brown or black in any of those countries and you'll face a thousand times more racism than you would in europe

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serot
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I was traveling through china with a black person in my group last summer and nothing happened
Arguably the far right presence in europe against immigrants makes it MUCH more racist

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InYourDreams
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Not 90 but 50 % surely

#93
serot
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That's like prime nazi germany numbers
What do you think korea is bro?
I don't know what kind of tinted glasses you lot have on but you would be hard pressed to find a single country that racist
Seeing chronically online netizens and dumbasses be racist is one thing but try talking to some real people

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InYourDreams
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It’s really server dependent brother and also I haven’t said anything regards of Korean being racist bruh fucking Zellsis worded escalation on assumption stop being on adrenal

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JonahPork
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You can dislike what he says but you can never say he’s wrong

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telegrxm
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the korean teams are scrim sharing
(he's lying and pussies out when told to actually provide evidence, doesn't apologise and is happy to let korean teams get dubbed scrimsharers)

the korean teams are stupid
(stop losing to the actual tier one rosters then)

i'm good at my job
(chokes against rrq and has been smoked internationally at every opportunity)

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daboi
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uk mfs hate every other race

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kyro1
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nah gang your actually a moron

why would frost EVER bring evidence to the public to witch hunt the players and ruin careers its a behind closed doors matter

paper rex is his kryptonite not korea

hes not in the server bro 😭 talon was a roster made on minimums

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telegrxm
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he doesn't have to announce anything

the pacific region seems to have the highest budget out of all of them and riot isn't a shadow org which you need to write formal letters to and mail via carrier pigeon

he doesnt want to ruin careers but appropriates slander of the people he says are doing wrong, publicly suggests they're doing wrong

and yet for a supposedly 'closed doors matter' he has done literally NOTHING behind closed doors, and if he has then obviously nothing has come from it because he LIEDD

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your genuinely just a dimwit. yes riot holds private investigations, yes frost has provided evidence to riot, slander??? please what slander is there the fact that he's accused drx of scrim sharing? thats slander now? you can't accuse people now? its not like termis career or reputation has been hurt from this 😭 i cant tell if your ragebaiting thats the level of stupidity here

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'slander' in an obviously hyperbolic sense but it's been a year and nothing came of public accusations levied onto not just drx but also geng and t1

you can't measure the effect on his career if nothing has changed about it for the last like 5 years but bring termis name up and there is undoubtedly going to be mention of the scrimsharing which has apparently been known for over a year but hasn't had anything done about it

i dont think termi is the god coach who is immune to criticism because realistically yes there's a lot to criticise but you're being disingenuous if you think his reputation hasn't been hampered

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serot
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ban and governor (koreans) were both on the roster when fr0st made those claims no?
both clips you link are also perfectly fine
fr0st could be wrong but I don't think he is lying about what he thinks is happening

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vibemerchant_25
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out of curiosity what is your opinion of boostio and his public slander of the entire chinese region?

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telegrxm
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i thought he was kinda stupid for the take but he didn't keep doubling down months later and nobody mentions it anymore lol

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Mebi
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That's more like because Boostio himself fell off and just isn't relevant anymore.

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kyro1
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korea hates frost.
frost was talking about t1 who went with academy coach instead of him
and nothing wrong with being confident about beating a team bro

the witch hunt yall do for this man is so funny hes just a loud mouth which doesn't mesh with korean culture aint no racism or anything like that in this "beef" if anything its termi and co who would fit that description with some of the comments they made.

also i think frost is pissed off about the DH acquisition

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telegrxm
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t1 academy won literally everything they could last year meanwhile frost gets beheaded internationally and scrapes into international tourneys by the skin of his teeth just to get grouped (but its okay because sometimes he takes a map off of prx maybe i dont know)

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kyro1
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yeah bro frosts rosters consistently outperform expectations but hes ass you right. kdg has a horrible track record in overwatch meanwhile frost has won majors in other games and is more proven in valorant makes sense

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telegrxm
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frost can''t be a butthurt baby who can't tolerate when his shit slinging isn't reciprocated with the same level of irrepressible anger because he was good at overwatch a thousand years ago

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kyro1
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frost never played or coached overwatch???? how is he butthurt?? 😭😭 you are out here accusing him of being a racist hes saying gms dont know what they are doing (he was literally a gm)

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InYourDreams
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He is stupid don’t continue the argument further

#38
telegrxm
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ugh the guy mentioned some random bs from the past i dont know what kdg is from overwatch i dont know or care for whatever makes it relevant to frost

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vibemerchant_25
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dawg you literally accused us of not having reading comprehension this is some mad irony

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telegrxm
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baseball player misses a curveball so according to you he's the equivalent of having no arms 😭✌

#54
hoboclap
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Ah yes, they will take the more expensive option in frost rather than a coach from THEIR OWN ORG that literally beat everyone in tier 2 korea.

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kyro1
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t1 are rich and frost probably would take less to get to work with that roster

#59
hoboclap
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"probably"

why take the risk? also frost doesnt speak korean. they will need to hire a assistant coach that can translate

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kyro1
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its not a risk bro you find that out in discussions not after you sign them 😭

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hoboclap
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no i meant why take the risk signing him if he cant communicate with the team and why not just sign the safer option of the academy coach

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kyro1
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stax, munchkin, buzz, izu speak english im not sure if meteor does but still thats not really a risk

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hoboclap
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im pretty sure they would still much rather get a coach that can speak their mother tongue.

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I think its more a of a mutual respect thing, korea def doesnt hate frost, hes been getting a decent amount of korean fans this past year but he does still have more fans that dislike him. Can you blame them tho? He came out and basically accused drx and termi for scrim sharing and eventually admitted it himself that it probably wasnt drx. Its really not about racism but more about mutual respect. Im not surprised tho, koreans tend to be a bit cold to some foreigners, sorry yall its a work in progress

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kyro1
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no i dont blame koreans at all its a language and cultural barrier ofc they would be stand offish towards someone like frost

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InYourDreams
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I think if he is knowing all this then prolly he does have a source within Korean t2 scene that is providing him all the info
Also valid criticism regarding udotan not getting picked yet and Xavi not in the league earlier because of team s0cr0t

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telegrxm
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knows all this
refuses to prove anything

masterful gambit frost your enemies are defeated

#24
InYourDreams
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He has already given up my guy don’t continue to nitpick lol

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gordonramsay
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theres no point in posting this here, everyone already took the side of fr0st and just assumes the worst about anything korean related lmao

#25
telegrxm
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lowk ur right if siding with frost makes games more interesting then it's no wonder that people will keep doing it, reason just doesnt matter bro what am i doing

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Foxy9glazer
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i hate how frost is always trying to stir shit up, just leave pacific alone bro ur not in americass with your highschool drama

#30
xineFso
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Love him or hate him you gotta admit the korean teams scrim sharing allegation is real and everyone knows it there were even tier1 coaches and players backed him up

***The teams are just not DRX (and he had stated it)

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telegrxm
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why does it have to be real if nobody can prove it 😫

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gordonramsay
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to be fair, scrim sharing isnt a "korean" exclusive thing, thats just what kinda bothers me. Nobody cares until its the koreans lmao

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xineFso
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Yeah lowkey but i doubt it’s even remotely considered usual amongst tier1 teams nonetheless, it’s still real and hes not lying

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gordonramsay
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there were already leaks about it happening in emea and americas, its def still happening just on the lowkey. Korea might just be blatant about it

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EseemedRes1180
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Korean teams scrims sharing has been there since league and ow days. And many of those coaches migrated to val so i wouldn't doubt it.

It can be as small as 2 players showing vods to each other or just coaches saying hey u wanna show me GE abyss comp for Full senes split comp or something like that

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gamergirl
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the allegations came bc korea is the host nation, so obviously it has to be korean teams

anyways fr0st literally confirmed it wasnt drx, this guy is just retarded

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Not1
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#32
tungsten_cube_
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literally all he did was say he thinks his team is going to beat a korean team and then hype up one of his own players (who is also korean btw??)

#46
ipppppi
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I know this doesn't make sense for the accuser (Fr0st) to "Not" provide evidence for the public (Riot probably didn't let him), but I noticed how Riot didn't punish Frost for spreading false rumors. If it really was made up, it would have made sense for Riot to force Frost to apologize.

Based on that dummy logic, it's not like concrete evidence, but enough evidence for riot not to punish spreading 'false' rumors. It could have had some level of truth to it.

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telegrxm
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i mean maybe but termi went as far as to stake his entire career on it if frost decided to go to riot

so by this logic riot chose to allow him to make public claims, barred him from elaborating on them whatsoever with termi also somehow knowing he wasn't allowed to come forward (or would choose not to)

if this sort of thing could be routine for allegations like this then theres serious conversations to be had about the competitive integrity of pacific, and i'm just not sure if there's enough evidence besides this situation to warrant it

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xineFso
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Buddy you dont even truly understand the situations Frost never had any scrim sharing shi with Termi and he never said it was drx (even said it wasnt DRX)

they just dont like each other on sum personal , manner attitude shi , but Frost had accused korean teams of scrim sharing before the beef so everybody including Termi just cluelessly assumed that Frost refusing to fist bump Termi was related to the β€œscrim sharing accusations”

#49
PandaZ
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Putting beans on toast has fried your brain lil bro

#51
telegrxm
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me when im american so all beef has to be whimsy gaming fun and i will pretend racism doesn't exist

#53
PandaZ
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wow you're being racist towards Americans dude not cool 😟

#65
macncheese
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if you genuinely think frost is antikorean when termi refuses fist bumps with JOVI even youre blinded by bias beyond any help. only korean person hes ever had a problem with is termi, dont be stupid. the korean scrim sharing mafia isnt racism, hes shared proof with riot. its not actionable bc scrimsharing isnt illegal in the handbook (go check yourself), so no one was punished. notice how frost is unsanctioned by riot as well, if he lied and slandered ppl theyd fine or suspend him like theyve done in the past. dont be blinded by team biases and try to defame people

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teilwal
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5/8

#63
GodAwfulGod
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Flair

#64
macncheese
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are you trolling? if this is what your interpretation of those videos is you need to check if you r on the spectrum bc u struggle interpreting social interactions

#70
telegrxm
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all words have concrete meanings and sentences are impossible to be interpreted in any other way besides the one which makes you happiest

#71
telegrxm
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8/8 performance by me

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tua
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πŸ€”

#75
telegrxm
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flair is drx so he must be serious

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tua
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πŸ€”

#82
telegrxm
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😜

#77
Tempest24
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wizards kuzma type performance

#80
telegrxm
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im prime cr7 and my doubters are man utd pogba

#85
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#89
Mango34
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Nah this is just giving a koreaboo butthurt by frost vibes lol. Funniest thread I have seen in a while in vlr. Everyone got baited but ngl you can't tell if it's a ragebait or just stupidity in vlr sometimes. And seeing some of your comments here it actually doesn't look like a ragebait too. You might just be dumb.

#101
telegrxm
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no it was ragebait dwr lol

#102
tua
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πŸ€”

#94
FriendO7
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The whole part that he says about slt being government subsidized and them making to T1 is a compliment

He said in an interview on tombizz or someone else i remember him saying that it was soo cool that a government subsidized team made it to t1 (something along those lines )

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InYourDreams
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I don’t think it can be more subsidised than T1 since they have sk telecom under their banner

#100
mulyondoindon
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yeah. imagine Tesla subsidise a team.

Holy the amount of budget they have..

#96
archetype
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lowkey you cant hate frost the more u get to know him hes just a character fr

#98
KssS
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Bro is intentionally stupid.

Fr0st praised SLT seongnam for being a government subsidized team and thinks maybe its a new direction in esports that should be considered

#103
ninjaturtle
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termi literally told him to 'go back to his country' you don't get to have any say in what he should be posting

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