bro doesn't know about the patiphan lore

he only left m8 cuz of personal issues i think

would be cool to have him back but dk

yearly champs run incoming

i said i am ?

drowning in 12-5 comebacks

ex6tenz back for minny leo and comeback

https://x.com/Ex6TenZZZZZZZ/status/1965466817033318730

or he will join vitality and make the best team ever

I like him but tbh as a duelist/flex there is better, feels like one of those players who just thrive in t2

no esports bubble was created by high valuations of the esports industry and stuff like gambling being allowed, with COVID keeping people inside and playing/watching videogames

it was only natural for 30 orgs to shrink fast after 2022

nah a lot of the cis in apac are from vladivostok

there is no world where something is an emea or cis player

i think vo0kashu was forced to apac cuz of bad reputation but not sure of the rest, rarga for example too just apac

it was because of the esports bubble not franchising

look at a map of the world and ask yourself this question again

im pretty sure vo0kashu is the only one who can play in cis from the names u mentioned

the rest are APAC players, Riot is just stupid

1 i dont think KOI lose that much money due to riot subsidies

2 he's not the only person at KOI, he's obviously just the only one they care about

3 profits in esports isn't why people are in esports, KOI just get a lot more clout from LEC than Val, plus i've watched ibai stream both games and its like watching fns vs tarik

idk, some say he was unhealthy

but he obv was fine for LEC.. idk if it's a cop out lol cuz he never really cared about valorant

but i don't want to seem like that wouldn't be reasonable

if they had proper communications between their operations and ceo m8 would be gone

bro thought they're invincible because of ibai even though ibai can only handle (rightfully so) LEC streams

this is days old news for veqaj he just wanted to announce that he is LFT

m8 did not just release him, they can still deny offers and retain him if they get a VCT slot, i think people are just misunderstanding since this author posted the news the day KOI got kicked when it happened a while ago

uh i hate to say it but ur not getting over 10k until u just get way better than everyone at the 9k-10k slopfest

i personally would run off meta double spell deck, whatever that is for you it's cool

aslong as u dont get auto disqualified by log bait, u then need to worry about pekka gob giant, and miner poison

miner poison is unbeatable tbh, so either be one of the miner poison chads and you'll prob get out of that elo easily or just get way better at the game

time for an apac org to blowup

tired of these dinosaur orgs, is there not some huge sea or korean streamer org?

the fortnite / valorant pipeline has been abused by sen and m8 its time for apac

the money:

https://x.com/V1CTOUV2/status/1964315364067565725
https://x.com/_tamM8/status/1964704269770362981

send vid or your mom dies

name 5 teams that can do this in their home

no need to miss the point

We believe you bro, don't worry - this looks like a completely original message! This is a great reply to unked

ive never seen nrg or xset fans with sauce like this

but im sure kc can do the same, never doubted that

I just doubt MANY orgs can

https://x.com/V1CTOUV2/status/1964315364067565725
https://x.com/_tamM8/status/1964704269770362981

the people questioning why riot did ts need to look at wtf is going on in fortnite lmfao

genuinely absurd

Furia, EG, DFM, and GE out too..

i dont understand the 7-5 half joke i dont watch shitality

all i can say is m8 is worse than 7-5 cursed

Justice for Sayf's mom.. keeps getting breached

No, BBL also terminated

Same situation as KOI - Apeks in.

uhh kamyk is dumb, bad vibes, beef with patikek and serial has no hands

https://x.com/Sheep_VALORANT/status/1964404312311754948

read then come back to cope when you understand that in 2024/25 there was more than enough communication

untrue broski, 2025 koi are 1-2 vs M8 and their only other win is apeks

m8 beat apeks koi liquid navi vitality and would have like 7 more wins if there wasn't black magic

KOI was never in a position of control to "throw" games like m8 they just got ran over

in 2024 KOI was better but still lost to m8

they qualified to champs twice

unfortunately for KOI GiantX has been very good in franchising

wdc is more important but its still about the car more than drivers

i can think of maybe 4 drivers who wont finish top 3 in a mclaren

NOOO BBL ARE GONNA GET BETTER

I get your point, but I do think you're being a bit harsh since KOI were given a slot for the same reasons you think M8 were, except that M8 actually qualified on merit first, then proved that they were also more valuable than KOI.

I'd prefer if giantx was trash and KOI were in champs, that way there would be no debate - but sadly ara is thanos

people who are driver fans and not team fans just strike me as allergic to loyalty

tbf, it's a weird line to walk on

but there's also likely more to it, riot has typically been calculated in these matters, and KOI is in LEC (where they try a lot harder) so they wouldn't do what you're implying imo

I just think it's weird to first come at M8 or Riot without looking at KOI's failures first. Before orgs worry about unfairness (it might be rash, but unfair it isn't) they should be reflecting on better management and content strategies

EP + twis would be cool

navi and bbl did not have 4 rookies and kamyk as the most experienced

also, we had to play with an ascension roster 2024 then in 2025 it became a count down to stay up in VCT so the pressure was there, it's very rare for a pure ascension roster to compete

even G2 needed leaf, and eventually jawgemo - insane pickups btw..

ima just chalk this up to you not understanding the numbers but the gap between koi and m8 is bigger than you think

riot did it, but blame koi for being shit

wdym inconsequential? they are the 2nd most viewed team and 3rd in bundles?

either way, I think most people understand that it's harder for ascension teams to compete, especially after full rebuilds - KOI had three full years of safety to attract talent, m8 had one split and still built a nice roster, its just a shame that there's so much pressure on rookies - and good experienced players like Leo would never consider an ascension roster

nah it was kold, if spanish orgs didnt have spanish bias 2023 koi woulda been a superteam </3

riot did it not m8 bro.. thats what im saying

not a single thing you've said is true so far

just emotional because an org with an innovative structure and actual profitability is staying and not an org who's only value is ibai and ibai isn't there..

just throwing insults instead of being happy that riot is being proactive and caring about the future of the scene..

so they traded their broken cash cow koi for an actual cash cow m8 and you're confused?

there was no m8 crying or whining, that was ibai you watched cry

m8 owners didn't threaten to pull out of valorant, they DID pull out of valorant lol

i didn't even say anything opinionated

simply too much crying about m8 as if this wasn't something that riot did themselves

if you get fired from ur job because you don't show up for work, why are u blaming the guy who replaced you and not yourself for not going to work lol

you missed out on nothing this is only here for spanish cucks who thought their nepo org was safe

2 teams at ascension :O

hopefully one MENA plus Enterprise or Fokus ascend

polish/german valorant scene needs more rep than spanish esp since league is in berlin