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It’s a fair list. Like who in tier B and C would you have move up to S or A lol
zeta and shitcret under JDG and Trace, C9 above Envy, BBL B-tier..., T1 A-tier with tiltkin, pooper rex S-tier
JDG was better than Zeta and Shitret last season and so Trace made lan many times. This is not really controversial. And you are just baiting on the last sentence.
JDG was better than Zeta and Shitret last season and so Trace made lan many times
you might be smoking something aswell
I think you are trying but you should try harder to comprehend how bad Zeta or TS are. So if there is discrepency, I want you to try even harder to comprehend how shit they are, eventually, your brain will figure it out.
3rd at RBHG
https://www.vlr.gg/event/2602/red-bull-home-ground-2025/main-event
how bad can they possibly be? while jdg and trace are ass against teams that are also ass
2 great maps in Bo1 and then they completely fell over as soon as the other team gave a shit in playoffs
bren tried to argue T1 lower but their new coach is apparently known for being strict af back in OW and they thought he might actually put the players in their place unlike a0t0mn
no hes known for being like termi and just rotating good players to the point that the synergy of the team is fucked up
i mean i lowkey agree the choice to bench dh is atrocious he was arguably their best player when he was playing
ig it makes sense if they don't want izu perma init to do that but
tbh -stax +dh looks better to me with munchkin but
I am notoriously b0zz st0x hater
do you mean PCIFIC? if so they put them in F because we literally do not know any of their players right now, same with Full Sense (or whoever's replacing Talon)
Literally made top 6 Champs + qualified for Toronto + EWC victory even if you don't rate it.
made top 6 by beating one of their own teams realistically they wouldve lost to anyone else in the playoffs. made Toronto then bombed out without winning a map no matter what you say that is not enough to be considered a top 6 team itw.
won a mickey, 0-2 in toronto and 0-2 in champs play offs is a b-c year icl cro
Still better achievements than majority of the teams in all of VCT. Putting Heretics below A tier would be crazy work. How are Leviatan A tier? MIBR? when on their praised miracle run in Champs they placed 5-6th just like Heretics. Vitality with nothing to show outside of potential on paper? Its proven core, topped their group in Champs, played well regionally especially in groups etc. Everyone knows that they are just inconsistent, but can also play event winning level. There isn't single team on B that would deserve to be rated higher.
barley relevant in the worst region come back when they have a shite year again
Americas fans forgetting how bad their region was for most part (outside of Champs playoffs obviously). TH would have stomped Americas outside of G2 and would have done well in Pacific as well.
How is that relevant? There is only 3 trophies per year and its everyone's game when we count how teams can peak at right time and win it. Consistency is what matters and that's why we for example saw Fnatic on back to back finals. EMEA as region was very competitive especially towards the end. Even in Champs only difference between Americas and EMEA performance was NRG winning the finals. At least TL just performed way worse to their regional level and imploded while SEN performance was expected.
did you seriously ask me why winning internationals matters when debating who is the best ?
Mental gymnastics at its finest
your saying americas were only good at champs but where have EMEA been the whole year besides FNC???????
getting screwed by curses, TH losing to 1rd and 3st, TL getting grouped by bullshit until champs where they inherited TH's curse also because they lost it at EW cup i guess
Both Americas and EMEA has been very equal international event wise. With mainly G2 carrying Americas and Fnatic EMEA. Even Champions placements were the same for both outside of NRG/Fnatic. But I'm mainly talking about the regional competitiveness. Americas was ran by G2 and SEN for most of the year and even out of those only G2 had any relevancy as SEN were pretty mediocre and beaten by EMEA equivalent. While if you look at EMEA we at least had some competitiveness. It was extremely easy to rate Americas as the 3rd region pre Champs if you followed the regions. And that's my point. Only reason why we even argue about this is because Liquid crumbled to ground for unknown reasons and didn't deliver their regional level performance.
Both Americas and EMEA has been very equal international event wise>
Yup over the past 3 years you are correct super similar results wise just a small difference in # champs' trophies and diversity of winners per region.
Also who tf cares about domestic diversity when on an international stage this past year you have had ONLY 1 team do well
well ypu could say the same thing about sen crumbling... regardless of that both th and gx were worse than mibr and g2 and obviously nrg were better than fnc and theres no point of bringing up liquid vs sen they are both shit
Liquid finished 1st in EMEA, Sentinels didn't look that good in Stage 2. I mean that Liquid underperformed way more than Sentinels. Also TH literally beat G2 so saying that they were worse is non sense. Literally all G2, MIBR, TH and GX could have won against each other any given day. GX had shit game vs NRG and below their level. Same how Fnatic and NRG would both be 50/50 if they replayed.
Full Sense is F because they're kicked from the league, notice how PCFIC is also in F because they have no roster.
They said It’s not certain that the entire talon roster will be taken so they just excluded them afterwards ( they gave TLN roster an A initially)
Realistically I think the only world where an org goes anything other than +all TLN roster is if it's a Thai T2 org like FS who goes +all TLN but subs people around from their current team (probably immediately becomes an academy team)
There's a lot of problems with this list
Firstly, How is EMEA so overrated?
TH doesn't belong in high A tier, move to where GX is and put GX in between RRQ and GenG
BBL doesn't belong in B-tier. Lowest of B-tier at most.
And I'd argue the bottom tier Americas team are much better than the bottom tier EMEA teams, so it makes no sense to put ULF, M8 and Fut above Loud, Kru and Furia.
Secondly, some placements are just egregious.
C9 doesn't belong on B tier period, put their washed asses on the bottom of C-tier.
Furia is heavily underrated here, move them where Envy is, and then Envy to bottom B tier.
PRX down to top of A, they just aren't an S-tier team anymore.
T1 to the middle of B-tier just above of Sen.
FPX down to top of C-tier.
Swap DRX and Lev.
Swap GE and Nova and put them below Kru
There's a lot of problems with this list
Firstly, How is EMEA so overrated?
TH doesn't belong in high A tier, move to where GX is and put GX in between RRQ and GenG
BBL doesn't belong in B-tier. Lowest of B-tier at most.
And I'd argue the bottom tier Americas team are much better than the bottom tier EMEA teams, so it makes no sense to put ULF, M8 and Fut above Loud, Kru and Furia.
Secondly, some placements are just egregious.
C9 doesn't belong on B tier period, put their washed asses on the bottom of C-tier.
Furia is heavily underrated here, move them where Envy is, and then Envy to bottom B tier.
PRX down to top of A, they just aren't an S-tier team anymore.
T1 to the middle of B-tier just above of Sen.
FPX down to top of C-tier.
Swap DRX and Lev.
Swap GE and Nova and put them below Kru
C9 was the team that was the closest to ruin NRG chance to win world, 1 more round could have change anything
i get that it was an elimination game but surely MIBR and DRX are up there right?
why swap DRX and LEV? DRX coming off of champs and offseason events are still looking good, while LEV can't even play neon for kickoff bc he isn't 18 yet
The list is for the whole year, and Lev is only playing without Neon for 3-4 games, he will still be able to play playoffs in Kickoff and DRX lost to Lev in a Bo5 in the recent chinese off-season event.
platchat is the trashcan of valorant content creation. that being said, there's no good valorant content creators anymore.
NRG is the only team taht even despite winning Champs i dont see making or winning any international tournament after that even despite just 1 roster change
its physically impossible to create a tier list like this, its meant to just be content
It is just pure ragebait when it doesn’t make sense to do the list half of the rosters are not even finished yet
i see Bren on the screen, that tells me all i need to know. The guy has zero real opinions and just trolls
its really not that bad.
I see a handful of teams that I would move up or down one rank, but basically zero that I see would move more than 1 rank.
thats a good enough list
nrg in s and g2 in a is crazy considering g2 have looked WAY better this offseason, and nrg havent looked up to their champs level
that being said idk if g2 roster is even fully set yet so ig we'll see
also 100throws and sen are too high, people are giving benefit of doubt bc of org names
imagine actually listening to these clowns (except sgares my goat).
I don't think a lot of people who commented above me actually watched the stream. The stream was literally titled "Way too early VCT rankings" or smth like that, its not purely just based off the off season, its how they think the teams will do for the 2026 season.
They are reading tea leaves but they admit it and said it multiple times on stream.
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