Title, What if/Butterfly effect (what would’ve happened)
I’ll go first:
What if 100t never choked against MIBR, EG not going to champs?
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What’s your biggest WHAT IF in Valorant?
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probably but what does Tokyo, Champs look like with no EG? what about the next year? No Boostio on 100T (won stage 1), no LEV c0m (won stage 2) and no NRG superteam (including Ethan who IGLed them to champs 2025) because these guys arent as sought after if they dont win champs
everything would change tbh, all the internationals would see a different outcome
Txozin single handedly had the most important canon event with the knife kill, timeline altering change fr
Aspas probably has a better relationship with LEV management because they wouldnt drop nzr for c0m, meaning he probably stays and doesnt go MIBR
nah i think nzr was dropped for internal issues, not because of lev wanting c0m
sure man, thats why Aspas left LEV to go and immediately team up with nzr the next year
yea cause aspas was on nzr's side, but lev couldn't afford for aspas to leave and no org was making a buyout THAT late into offseason. also it wasnt only the nzr situation that made aspas dislike lev, there were other things about the org he hated.
no matter if c0m was available or not aspas was gonna do everything he could to leave lev that season.
that’s the craziest possibility to even think about
’cause i’m sure loud wouldn’t have been world champions without sacy
There’s a chance Fnatic might have not been screwed by COVID during Rejkavik, Optic wins.
Fnatic MIGHT beat Fpx in lowers during Copenhagen
They still bomb out during Champs Istanbul and Optic wins champs
TL Leo
Fnatic don’t win Lock in but there’s a high chance they win Tokyo
Fnatic lose champs 2023, don’t do much in 2024 (but probably gets third at champs)
2025 would be impossible to determine
what if tenz shahz sick dapr zombs picked up a really good tac fps coach and stayed on top for a couple more events
EG would win LCQ then Champs
better question: what if Asuna didnt have birth defects
what if sinatraa didn’t get accused of SA. tenz would just be a streamer that would have fallen into irrelevancy. fnatic would have won the first masters, and the rest we dk
this has to be one of the biggest ones ngl this game is legit tenz
outside of valo tenz & kyedae both irrelevant = jasontheween not ever asking out sakura
what if sinatraa didn’t get accused of SA.
What if people start to understand the importance of presumption of innocence : FTFY
for your question:
PRX will win Champs23 (cause I believe the run will be the same, but without EG)
for my what if:
What if all of optic core stays together and got invited to partnership
but we will got to watch the best rivalry (optic vs loud) for multiple years
my what ifs:
https://www.vlr.gg/248274/loud-vs-paper-rex-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubsf/?game=137630 (close OT loss following into a 13-2 stomp, if they won the first map LOUD would have made upper finals and win champs imo)
https://www.vlr.gg/348469/g2-esports-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-ubsf/?game=170802&tab=overview (TH 11-2 choke for the upper bracket game)
https://www.vlr.gg/329911/gen-g-vs-drx-champions-tour-2024-pacific-stage-1-lr1/?game=167280 (DRX 11-8 in qual game to the eventual shanghai winners)
https://www.vlr.gg/314640/sentinels-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w3/?game=163400&tab=overview (for some context here: sen was 2 rounds away from making stage 1 playoffs over G2 who made it instead and went on to make Masters Shanghai and place 3rd)
one for me simimlar to this is nrg vs edg champs what if nrg never came back on the 11-2
What if Gambit never broke apart due to circumstances that weren't even under their control?
They were the first team to make back to back grand finals and almost won champs too
"What if no Ukraine war"
Is probably the biggest what if in Val scene, so many things would have change there
yeah there's so many moves or teams that won't happen and the evolution of the scene would be so so different, like giantx current roster, that eg champs roster probably also would've never happened, fpx might have stayed in eu, teams like ge/lev probably wouldn't stop using local regional players, we won't see talon & rrq repping th & id, ts would be knocked down from the ph throne much more easily, teams like falcons or raad won't be stopped from going further just because of org affiliations, there's even the chance that teams like t1 or gen g wouldn't move to kr, so many things would be so different
tbh i feel like this wouldn’t have done much g2 would’ve just stuck it out EG probably bomb out immediately
they woulda repeated champs the next year so easily, like that team lost their two best players along with aspas getting so much better and still got third the next year with tuyz
What if EMEA teams were good at Pearl! In international events so much of them could've done much better! :D
what if g2 ceo wasnt at that party with andrew tate, denying them from franchising
they were allegedly gonna pick up xset core for 2023, meaning sen wouldnt get them, and its believed that their spot was given to eg instead
also what if m80 won ascension 23 instead of tgrd?
would the roster with nismo, johnqt, eeiu, zander, and koalanoob have done as well in t1 as g2? also nrg was apparently looking to buy the guard core if they didnt ascend. imagine a roster with crashies, victor, valyn, jonahp, and tex in 2024
What IF Prx did not change their bind comp and had pearl early not as map 5
for prx my biggest one is what if jinggg never had that 1v3 clutching, losing to DFM, not qualifying to playoffs let alone toronto
nahh it's definitely what if prx didn't use some random ass comps on breeze. Or if they actually use any type of brain cells when FPX keeps waiting for them at spawn (bind)
it was their 1st final so we can let go cause they ran through with this style in apac to get in masters
but even a bronze lobby know that if they got shitted on spawn, then maybe they shouldn't push spawn.
But hey, that's just my rant about their Copenhagen run
they were like haikyuu 1st season when they got stop they think they had to go more faster more aggro that was their big flex not macro but gun fight which they learn in that final we cant just do this in top level but they still stick to that but with more inovation in 2023 and 2024 was end of it
Funny enough, I'm working on a video "8 ways things could have turn bad for NRG"
What if guild signed twisten for 2022 EMEA LCQ? would they have been picked up as a 5 for franchising or picked apart instead like most teams were?
What if sinatraa was never black listed
What if 100T gave inspire just a little more time
What if 100T gave seven an actual chance instead of just having him as a sixth man.
#60 beat me to it. If his ex didn't pull the crocodile tears, TenZ becomes C9's golden content ticket and will still end up in Sentinels as said content ticket.
A real hypothetical scenario is... what if FNS didn't retire 🤔
what if Leo didn't get sick, not only would fnc have been better in 2024, Crashies might have been playing in NA tier 2 in 2025, potentially could have been picked up after NRG dropped verno ig, and what does that mean for for fnatic 2025 assuming derke still leaves for VIT, do fnatic win Toronto and Paris with Leo over Crashies?
One thing for sure is that Fnatic would have won Shanghai. Beating GenG ruins GenG's chances of winning anything.
if geng dont win Meteors value as a player is not nearly as high GenG might have been able to resign him and the disgusting GenG team would have still been around in 2025
pati hits the shot on forsaken in 12 12 lotus
prx mental is fucked and we go on to win toronto
it's a fixed timeline M8. Even if pati wins that, TL still lose that map
nah losing 1v3 clutch to pati of all ppl and the pressure of choking a whole map would have made prx players desperate just like tl player were desperate to finish it in the last round
What if 100t never choked against MIBR, EG not going to champs?
Thats absolutely false statement, if 100T would not have choke, EG wouldn't have gone to master, but they would likely qualify to champ in LCQ, this narrative was nice to hear but it's a fasle one
EG improved so much during Tokyo, I can't imagine EG winning champs without their Tokyo run even if they won the LCQ
I think NRG proved you wrong on that. You can improve enough on one tournament ^^
They (NRG) played EWC qualifiers and improved from there so they had enough reps as a team
EG would’ve had 2 months of zero games and wouldn’t have won champs if they made it through LCQ + little reps
NRG had 2 very experienced players in Ethan and S0m who had LAN experience, while EG only had Ethan. Also who says EG would have won LCQ, they wouldn't have played a match for months by that point and they would have lost all of their momentum, which EG heavily relied on.
what if yay joined nrg in 2023 intstead of c9
fns woulda known how to enable him and keep him good
what if games ended at 12 rounds instead of 13, i think gentlemates would be world champs, in a geng vs m8 final
yeah but tbf that would just change the whole trajectory of the entire game like completely to the point where not one thing that is rn would be the same
What if XSET won the match vs FPX at champs 22 after the round rollback
this is good question actually. I thinks they can beat FNC if they play with the full rosters
EG not being on masters tokyo messes with the entirety of the champions seeding so its hard to say
What if VIT Jamppi actually happened in 2025 and the roster was Less, Sayf, Derke, trexx and Jamppi IGL?
if geopolitics didn't murder the best emea teams is probably the actual biggest but
russia was the best region in ts game before the war broke out and orgs had to shut down
what if Team secret won against Zeta Division in LCQ 2023 and what if Team secret won against Talon in stage 2 2024
Wha if Kangkang wasn't poached and was requested by RNG to transfer to CFHD?
he was on Sengoku Gaming with Something in 2023, was just as good as him on top of being a flex IGL. He played a few games for JDG during the 2023 off-season, and then disappeared from the scene. His main account isn't active anymore, same for his twitter etc... No idea what happened to him, but he could have been a generational player
What if PRX won both copenhagen and LA and get past their 3rd places e.g tokyo and madrid i dont think we would see the roster stay together
what if niesow wasnt actually a cheater
what if primmie had been pro since 2021
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