Why does romance Animes suck?

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90% of romance anime with a male target audience are just straight up gooner animes (For example: dress up darling, Komi, Bunny girl senpai, Quintessential Quintuplets, More than a married couple e.t.c.)

Meanwhile many of those with a female target audience have a bunch of toxic tropes (Thankfully more good romance anime’s than those with a male target audience despite this)

And 90% of the one’s that don’t have any of these problems are just straight up boring

What happened to just making good love stories?

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might be my first upvote for you

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Wdym I have many great takes

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No🥀

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Kei8

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probably because it makes money

the last great romance i watched was horimiya and that was written by somebody who probably didnt even intend to make money with it

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ts my favorite one fs

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Lucrix

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dude horimiya is fucking peak. i was gonna tell them to watch horimiya but i wanted to see if anyone else recognized peak

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just say ur gay

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I’m gay

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no wonder you're scared of attractive women than

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Acethyr

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i think most are aware of it, but horimiya is great and honestly one of my favorite animes of all time

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you forgot to mention the worst and most overrated romance of all time: fragrant flower blooms with dignity
that shit is so fucking ass you have to be 14 years old with zero friends to think it's any good

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ure gonna get cucked for this but I am by your side twin

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I think it's a little unrealistic, but I do rly like and it makes me smile

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holy true

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king_bob

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read the first chapter a year ago and it was so fucking cringe i couldnt believe it i had to literally research what people see in this shit

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SO REAL. I don't know how they hyped it up to be the biggest romance since the romance genre was existed because every episode is just a mix-and-match of different friends being sorry at each other for different reasons and prejudices. THE MAIN CHARACTERS HAVE LIKE 3 EPISODES OF ALONE TIME, HELLO? I get that people like waguri because she's cute but there's no way that can overshadow the terrible and boring plot and side characters.

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Never watched it and never will. Seems ass

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yeah im with u just seemed boring to me

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laughs in rent a girlfriend. haven't seen something as shit as that

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watch golden time

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Watch clannad

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Tried to but I can’t stop falling asleep while watching it

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you might be watching S1. S2 or clanned after story is alot better

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I see harem or romance tag, whenever it's anime, manga/manhwa/whatever, novel... I steer clear.

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because anime sucks theres your answer

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Watch Tsuki Ga Kirei

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It doesn't feel that bad to me but I can see it

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go watch 5cm per second, the tunnel summer, tamako market, josee the tiger and the fish, silent voice, there so much anime that beautifully written

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All boring except ASV

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yeah you are just rage baiting.

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hfgsdhgfd

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That take isn’t rage bait genuinely did not enjoy any of these except ASV (Haven’t watched tamako also)

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stay with the rookie then

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there's a romance tragedy, wholesome and sugar what kind of do u like? there's no way u like silent voice but not a josee, clannad or fruits basket it's kind of coming of age anime

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I watched like 5 episodes of Clannad and Fruba, never really got into them but I guess they get better as they go on. Josee on the other hand was just very run of the mill imo, I had already seen a lot of stuff like it so it was not very interesting and I didn’t like the characters either. Also, ASV was directed by one of my favorite anime directors in Naoko Yamada so in terms of the way it’s shot, the animation, aesthetics, visual storytelling, compositing, tone e.t.c. it’s just way better than those other 3.

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NAOKO YAMADA MENTIONEDDD and also Ive miss her since she leave from kyoani cuz that kyoani tragedy i hope she work with kyoani again in the future, she one of the best director in ani history liz and the blue bird, evergarden, sv, her work is just pure art and also i freakin love hibike euphonium it's top 2 anime for me, year 3 should been 2 season 😭

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Yes omg I hope she returns to kyoani eventually. There’s just something about her style of directing that fits kyoani so well. She has made some amazing stuff since she left though, especially Heike monogatari it’s such a beautiful story and obviously something that matters a lot to her as well since it’s a story about grief and it was the first thing she made after the arson attack. Also Hibike is soo good I love it so much as well but I haven’t got around to watching season 3 yet. I did think year 2 should’ve been longer though, I mean liz was the part I loved the most about the series but the rest of year 2 was a bit too rushed. I hope year 3 isn’t as rushed I really need to watch it idk why I haven’t gotten around to it yet 🥲

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Go watch season 3 its pain but beautiful, the end of kumiko journey Im so happy and sad at the same time, growing with them over a years connects too deeply to a character and story, investing a long amount of time and emotion into something that never existed and takes a long time to forget 😭

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I just started my rewatch of season 1. Didn’t want to just jump into season 3 with how long it has been since I last watched Hibike. I’m sure I’ll love season 3 I’ve heard nothing but great things about it

continue thread →

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tunnel to the end of summer mentioned

my beloved

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bunny girl senpai

so we're clueless

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Clueless how? It’s literally gooner bait

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mfs when there's a attractive women in the show:

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hfgsdhgfd

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Someone feels called out

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actually bunny girl senpai deals with some pretty heavy themes. it really is just a great anime. its more than a romance.

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bearmans

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because it's a japanese media. japanese loves this kinda romance anime. bunny girl senpai isn't even a straight up gooner anime. yeah the series has fanservices but it's really low compared to other anime. even these anime you said have less fanservice than most shounen anime.

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Most shounen are ass as well

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Kei8

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what anime do you like then

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hfgsdhgfd

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Most of the ones I like are either not adapted from a manga or if they are they are either seinen or josei mostly

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Idk I have never watched an anime, do you have anything you could recommend if I were to be interested in watching one?

Also where would I be able to watch the animes

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bearmans

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depends on what u like

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Uuh I like murder mysties, not much for fiction in animation, honesty something romance related would also been nice to watch, I just to watch something good that I will enjoy.

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bearmans

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ppl said Monster was good, i never watched it tho.
but the one i do like is Apothecary Diaries. it has good detective-like story.
for romance, there are plenty. Love Is Hard for Otaku, Jii-san Baa-san, I have a crush at work, Violet evergarden, Monthly girls nozaki, Servant x Service, etc.
just stay out of harem genre, it might not for you. even i don't like harem tags.

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Violet Evergarden isn’t romance except for the movie and it sucks

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bearmans

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i meant for the whole series, yes including the movie. atp you don't need to watch anime dawg.
watch k-drama or something to sate your romance need.

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Why not there are a lot of good anime out there. The whole series also isn’t romance, only the movie is and it ruins the entire series so it’s not worth watching

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You’d probably enjoy Apothecary Diaries then. Mystery anime (with some murder) and it also has a bit of romance

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i fourth apothecary diaries, one of the best anime to come out in the last few years!

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youre someone that will enjoy Attack on titan, but it dw about season 1 being only alright i think its one of the best pieces of media you can watch but thats just my opinion

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best way to get into anime is to just try something random that takes your fancy. My first anime was toradora like 8ish years ago which is a romance anime so kinda along the lines of what you were looking for, but until that point i had never watched or read anything to do with romance, it just one day took my fancy.

+1 to the apothecary diaries suggestion, just genuinely an amazing show and has the mystery you like.

if you have any particular shows or films you love ill try and cater a better suggestion based on that

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start with deathnote.... the rabbithole of anime world.

You can watch it on [hianime](https://www.hianime.to)

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I think one of the reasons romance are boring is that because you kinda need to fill 3 criteria :

Good problems : If nothing happens they are no story, so romance needs a problem, and it's really hard to make problems that aren't cliché or boring or just minor things that become a drama and make the char look as crybaby, So it's hard to make good problems. (Kaguyama sama found a really smart way to create "problems", basically the war turn the problem into something fun and parodic, those problem arent technically serious but they are entertaining)
Blossoming the romance : Starting with one of the char already loving one is easy but you miss half of the story, it's way to hard to make a good romance blossom (Call of the Night did that well)
Side story : Romance sounds better when it's not 100% of the thing, but like for example a part of a thriller, we can gradually see the dynamics between the characters change have an evolution and work together. The easy path is to make the story 100% around, usually in a random school, with boring stakes, when they are barely little progress. Hard path is the side story, (and maybe in that sense Spy X Family is a better love story than 95% of romance anime)

So this was the 3 elements for a good romance, but if we look at the common market, they are also another big problem : putting the emphasis on the "idol", targeting male audience fantasizing on the girl everyone want in school rather than learning to look at the beauty in the outcast like him that he could live a beatiful story with realistically. I suppose it's way better to say to the target audience "Yes even if you are a looser you can have the idol" rather than "No, either you fundamentally change who you are, you can't have her, but if you change your mentality and lower your beauty standard, then you may find a girl that you share a lot with and your connexion will be even more stronger than with any generic idol"

Give me a romance anime where they are some plot around it, where we see char meeting for the first time and learn to know each other (and not as a flashback), where they have to face problem together, with outcasts, and with some smartness in the way it's written, and I'll read it as fast as I can. (Thats probably why I read Dorley sister that check box despite.. I mean don't read that for your own sanity)

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darling in the franxx romance goted

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What is the synopsis ?

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satellite_kov

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oh no i was giving an example of one i like that i feel is like that

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Blue box and Horimiya, angle next door is also rly good

I do agree that fan service can be annoying, but most of the time I js skip it, since there's a good plot still in there.

Honestly I like them because it rly warms my heart and I always catch myself smiling at it, if you don't like them js stick to like action stuff or whatever u like

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Yeah pretty much one dimensional after some point not worth it but there are a few who enjoy it

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you have to start reading YURI MANGA, not anime, mangas are always better.
-foxy9glazer

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It's anime ofc it sucks

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0/8

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n1cf

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every anime is weird you gotta understand first

second, horimiya is the greatest romance animanga of all time

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Ive just noticed the most popular here is horimiya i wonder why not Kaguya sama? Oregairu? Or maybe like ReLife

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I absolutely second kaguya sama and oregairu. Both so peak.

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yuri>>>

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nobody watches that corny shit

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I mean 90% suck cause its the same corny cheesy shit bro, horimiya is good though tbh it feels more slice of life than a romance anime, blue box is also good as it doesn't have the same tropes or story line other romance animes use

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Watch BokuYaba gng dont fall for horimiya/oregairu/angel next door/marrie couple but not lovers propaganda😂✌️

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it seems like you lack brain cells do you really think
Mai Sakurajima will be on Bunny girl suit all time

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so many good romance manga but they always adapt the gooner ones

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Blue Box

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idk i dont watch animes. naruto the last is the closest romance anime ive ever watched

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your lie in april, golden time, toradora,masamune kun no revenge, etc are goated anime.

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masamune kun no revenge is the most bullshit thing ever bro