Just had this random thought that I have no idea who the 5th best team has been so far this entire year overall (PRX T1 G2 FNC are the clear top 4 so far imo), who would you pick?
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TH bomb out of Toronto and missed Bangkok — only barely sneaking into Champs — and you rate them fifth? At least TL have made every international.
2025 team ranking where trophies are valued:
- PRX (Toronto 1st, Riyadh 4th, Paris 1-16)
- TH (Toronto 11-12, Riyadh 1st, Paris 1-16)
- T1 (1st Bangkok, Paris 1-16)
- FNC (Toronto 2nd, Riyadh 2nd, Paris 1-16)
- G2 (Bangkok 2nd, Toronto 4th, Riyadh 9-12, Paris 1-16)
TH would be lower if this wasnt a ranking where trophies are valued.
edit: Im getting downfragged now. But when I put EDG and SEN (trophy winners) > TH (no trophy) in 2024, I got upfrags... Vlr is biased.
it is objectively true that they are the 2nd best team of this year so far for international sucess wdym
just cuz vlr is biased doesnt mean im wrong
ur a TH fan and u dont think TH is the 2nd best team of the year??? why. nobody cares about regional results in rankings
it does count for shit.
maybe the OP should've retitled the post to say "5th best team in VCT this year" rather than "5th best team this year"
what prestige does it have?? online qualifiers, bo1s, rushed schedule, no circuit points (no incentive besides money) its objectively a mickey tourney. Of course im glad TH won but that doesnt change my opinions on it
G2 who are likely to win every regional trophy and placed 2nd and 4th at the last two internationals is below TH who missed Bangkok and bombed out of Toronto only barely sneaking into Champs off points?
You need to get a health check up because you might have a brain tumor.
Both got zero int trophy. And Th won more money in int Lan.
Regional shit don't count when G2 is moving like 2023 EDG in na.
Th did it way better last year. 2 b2b final chokers. G2 Not even better at choking. Not getting to another final
Not as a trophy. But it is still int lan compared to trophy less team
VCt int trophy are always bettter.
heretics dickrider till i die but you are crazy for thinking a teams better simply off of winning more money when a majority of that came from a sportswashing campaign of a tournament
not saying they've been amazing, but they have made playoffs in a international and been 2nd best in americas this year dunno why mfs so anti-sen
if TH are in the top 5, its at 5th
prx has regional trophy and an int win
t1 has an int win and had alright regional performance at the start of the year
g2 has regional domination and an int grand final
fnc has regional trophy and 2 int grand finals
MIllion dollar on int lan is way better.
By ur logic EVen EDG year is hella good.
ONe regional trophy And top 3 in master 1
Sen above TL. Sen had similar success domestically but more internationally
Liquid got visa cucked at Toronto, which isn't their fault but would probably mean Sen would have to be above them just from placements
And how is that not applicable to SEN…? Who also qualified to both internationals and did better than TL…?
ok lets stop this cope, SEN only did better than us at Toronto BECAUSE THEY BRIBED THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT TO BAR NATS FROM ENTRY
I will never ever ever forgive Canada for ruining my Goat's legacy
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