Which players do yall think would be added to the GOAT convo if they won champs?
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won a masters as a rookie
after a full year of adversity wins the biggest trophy of them all
has the same amount of trophies as boaster in 2x less time
AND is a fragging igl
Grubi good but i know someone better when he actually tries ARA MY GOAT WILL DESTROY EVERYONE
forsaken, alfa (actually probably not bc chron would also win then), nats, zekken, jonahp/valyn/trent, core 4 of edg
i think if g2 wins, it will move jawgemo up front bc he will be the only player with 2 champs trophies and will have been to 4 gfs
Yeah actually I lowk forgot about him, but he definitely would belong in the convo
I agree but the problem is if fnc win another trophy chron will still be more decorated than alfa
alfa kinda just gets overshadowed by chron bc he has a longer career and 1 more trophy, so its hard to say alfa is the goat when all of his new achievements are also shared with chron
I think G2 are now in the situation PRX used to be in- high placement at every LAN but no trophy
It's time for valyn and trent to be in people's top 10 all time conversations
That being said, if the SEN roster wins, my king zekken will be undeniable
i said it in #16 but i think if g2 wins, trent and valyn will be in top 10 convos but it might move jawg to the goat convo
bc he will be the only one with 2 champs
Not good enough to be in goat convo, individual performance needs to be taking into account, specially from top5
Leaf would be higher than both, his career on c9 > valyn and Trent’s on the guard
Nah, he’s in the top 10 convo for sure but I’ve never heard him in the goat convo, never heard an argument for nAts above chron
well rn it's demon1 at LA, but if patmen wins champs he def shoots up
You can still win a tournament or make a deep run without being #1 seed lol
how could they make an deep international run when they can't win their own region?
dawgemo, zekken, 4 of the fnatic and prx players, nats, meteor, johnqt
chron and aspas are already in the conversation but this would solidify
Jawgemo fs coz he'll have 2 champs then.
FNC core. Boaster will cement himself as the best IGL to ever exist.
SEN core but I think people would be giving it more to zekken if he mvps as well.
PRX fs.
all i know is that if PRX wins f0rsaken becomes the goat, no argument in my mind. he'd simply be too good with too much longevity and too many achievements to consider anyone else
If Zekken wins Champs and gets MVP, he goes from a top-15 Valorant player all-time to at least top-3, and potentially even the GOAT if individual performance is weighed on the same level as titles
If Alfa wins, the debate ends. The same applies to Chronicle
Well teamwise if Fnatic wins it then they become the absolute most goated team of all time and boaster alfa and chron are like goats, and crashies is like top 3 best initiator of all time, if prx wins it they overtake fnc in best team of all time and devai jingg and forsaken become the goats.
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