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USA USA USA USA !
Russia/Korea might also solo tho tbh
And Brazil/Canada has a chance to do decent
So delusional , Its obviously FRAANCEEEEEEEEE !!! We own you with our french ROSTER
Is the point of this post not for just 1 team? Depth of the region doesn’t mean anything if we get 5 demons
China
Americas
USA
Canada
Chile/BR
EMEA
Independent E-athletes of russia
Turkey
france/sweden?
APAC
Korea
Thailand
Japan?
In the same boat as Poland- neither country has done anything💀(I may be forgetting a polish player on 2021 acend ngl)
UK would probably be up there for EMEA ngl. Keiko on duelist, ardiis on flash initiators, soulcas on scan initiators, Boaster IGL and benjyfishy Sentinel. benjyfishy and ardiis mega vibes merchants so they can probably help ease the mood and allow Keiko and soulcas to hit their peak form more often and solve a bit of their inconsistency, plus ardiis and soulcas is a massive step up from Enzo and Jamppi in terms of setup so Keiko would have a lot more help. Then benjyfishy the clutch god, and Boaster the most accomplished IGL in EMEA. And ofc Mini and neilzinho as the coaches to cook some absolute Michelin star setplays. They'd be a scary team
Ngl I didn’t know ardiis was British in Nationality I thought he just moved there at a young age. This would be a GREAT team but boaster would probably choke like him and DERKE have done at every single champions
Delusional you are thinking KOREA would be so much lower considering GenG is a fully korean team and are beating everyone rn.
My bad. But surely you could have added a space between the heading and the countries lol
i mean i could've but that doesn't excuse u jumping to conclusions abt what i posted lmfao
Yea thats my bad. I saw Psion and triple jumped my way into the conclusion.
genuinely if u think im very biased or something tell me because i don't see myself as biased in most things
yeah it could be any number of places for that 3rd spot i just went japan because a full JP roster has got top 3 at an event before
cryo > derrek/c0m
have cryo run the jett and zekken run the sova on maps where that happens, and other maps have zekken raze and cryo on smokes/gekko/wtvr
Seeing Zekken and Cryo together again might have all the unc's like me crying
Ngl I didn’t even think abt the fact they used to play together, I was just thinking in general how it’s a better fit similar to asuna/cryo(which might honestly be better than zekken/cryo but I’d have to think abt it)
Honestly Trent>C0M/Derrek and you can 1000% have a better smokes player than Bang and you can debate FNS over Boostio and OXY could play over zekken but probably just have Cryo.
I can name a few countries that are very good and some subs (these are not in order)
(based on 2024 performance so far, so anything can change, but some players are too good to not be placed even if they didnt make shanghai or madrid)
- Russia:
- Something (Duelist)
- Chronicle (Flex Initiator)
- Shao (Initiator)
- Redgar (IGL + Smokes)
- Surgetsu OR nAts for sentinel/viper but i rather pick nats
Subs: Cloud, Sheydos, Purp0, jemkin(?), trexx
- Brazil
- Aspas (Duelist)
- Less ( Senti/Viper)
- Pancada (Smokes)
- Sacy (Initiator + IGL) (if u didnt know saadhak is argentinian, also cauanzin can replace either heat or sacy but they need an IGL)
- heat (flex & 2nd ini)
subs: mwzera, dgzin, tuyz, cauanzin, qck
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USA
- Zekken (duelist)
- Boostio (senti+IGL)
- Ethan (flex and 2nd initiator) OR n4rrate
- Trent (initiator)
- s0m (controller)
subs (there's so many good players so you can switch around the main US roster, any of these players can get in tbh)
crashies, victor, demon1, jawgemo, valyn, oxy, bang, cryo, zellsis
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Canada
- koalanoob (Duelist) (i honestly couldnt think of canadian duelists)
- FNS (senti+IGL)
- Marved (controller)
- Tenz (gekko/omen/kayo)
- Eeiu (initiator)
subs: zander, nismo, jonahP
- South Korea
- t3xture (duelist)
- meteor (senti)
- MaKo (controller)
- munchkin (flex+IGL)
- lakia or stax
subs: buzz, karon, sayaplayer, flashback, beyn, zest, rb
- Chile
- Keznit (duelist)
- shyy (senti)
- kingg (smokes+IGL)
- mazino (flex + 2nd initiator)
- adverso ? (I have no clue who to put on chile as a pure initiator)
subs: melser, mta
- Indonesia
- F0rsaken (duelist)
- mindfreak OR monyet (controller)
- xffero (sentinel))
- lmemore (initiator)
- xcurrate (IGL+ flex)
(I'm having a hard time on who to put as duelist but forsaken was an s tier jett neon and yoru player, and he can play raze when needed)
(also xcurrate would fill in any missing role)
subs: blazeking, berserx, ncslasher, fl1pzjder
- UK
- Keiko OR aardiis (both didnt play in masters in 2024)
- boaster (smokes+IGL)
- Benjyfishy(senti)
- soulcas (initiator)
- Russ (flex and 2nd ini)
subs: Mistic, L1nk,
9.Turkiye
- Cned (jett+opper)
- Woot (flex+raze player) woot is better than cned at raze
- Alfajer (Senti)
- MrFallin (initiator)
- Ata kaptan (smokes+IGL)
subs: riens, qrax, qw1, yetujey
- Sweden
- Sayf (duelist)
- Leo (initiator)
- Meddo (senti)
- Zyppan (flex +2nd initiator)
- I have no bloody idea for the controller spot in sweden since i can't find any, maybe ShadoW or someone else can fill it
Imo on who would win, probably between USA, Canada, Brazil, and Russia, those are my top 4
so could 100T or G2(i could continue but for argument's sake im not going to) right now because redgar is ass
Turkey would be
cNed - jett/awp
wo0t - Raze/Flex
MrFaliN - Main Initiator/IGL
Ruxic/Ata Kaptan - Smokes
Alfajer/Elite/yetujey - Sentinel
Liquipedia has him officially listed as British/Latvian. He is Latvian by blood but grew up in Liverpool so I'd probably say he's more british than latvian but I don't know his latvian side. I mean he talks like a scouse a lot.
This mixed nationality also applies to some players such as nismo (lebanese/canadian) or zekken/cryo (fiipino-american) but where do we draw the line?
You can also say that Marved and TenZ are vietnamese by ethnicity but born and raised in canada.
Sayf is iraqi and was born in iraq but grew up in Sweden.
FNS is tanzanian but grew up in canada
Demon1 is russian but grew up in the US
You could also say som is korean but he grew up in the US
so I'm just going off of loose terms here.
i already responded to the other comment that liquipedia has him as british/latvian but bro grew up in liverpool. His scouse accent stands out fr
turkiye, russia, South Korea, Singapore (i think?), thailand, USA, Canada, Brazil, and UK are the ones that can make some quality national teams I think
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USA - Boostio (IGL), Cryo, Asuna, leaf, trent, Victor (6th man)
C : potter, AC : Zikz -
Russia - Kr1stal (IGL), something, Sheydos, Chronicle, nAts, Cloud (6th man)
C : ENGH, AC : pipsoN -
South Korea - Munchkin (IGL), t3xture, Meteor, MaKo, Rb, BeYN (6th man)
C : solo, AC : HSK -
Brazil - Sacy (IGL), aspas, pANcada, mwzera, Less, heat (6th man)
C : bzkA, AC : peu -
Turkey - MrFaliN (IGL), cNed, Alfajer, Wo0t, Brave, AtaKaptan (6th man)
C : Gais
These would be the top 5 best teams in the world
NA, Korea and Brazil would clear.
If you go by population tho, Korea is by far the most impressive
List of every country that have 3 player in T1 (count is only for T1 player playing in their own region)
Europe
- Turkey 13 / 56 (23%) Alfajer, ATA KAPTAN, Brave, cNed, Elite, MrFaliN, pAura, qRaxs, QutionerX, reazy, RieNs, Wo0t, yetujey
- Russia 9 / 56 (13%) Chronicle, Cloud, nAts, purp0, Redgar, Sheydos, trexx, Shao, SUYGETSU, Jemkin, something, vo0kashu
- France 7 / 56 (13%) beyAz, Enzo, logaN, nataNk, Shin, TakaS, Wailers
- Poland 4 / 56 (7%) GRUBINHO, kamo, paTiTek, starxo
- Sweden 4 / 56 (7%) Leo, Sayf, ShadoW, Zyppan
- United Kingdom 4 / 56 (7%) benjyfishy, Boaster, Keiko, Mistic
- Finland 3 / 56 (5%) Derke, hoody, Jamppi, Polvi
- Lithuania 3 / 56 (5%) Boo, ceNder, MiniBoo (Nukky and Destrian where replaced)
Americas
- United States 23 / 55 (42%) Asuna, bang, Boostio, C0M, crashies, Cryocells, Demon1, Derrek, Ethan, icy, leaf, NaturE, OXY, runi, supamen, tex, trent, valyn, vanity, Victor, Xeppaa, zekken, Zellsis, N4RRATE, Rossy, yay
- Brazil 16 / 55 (29%) artzin, aspas, cauanzin, frz, havoc, heat, Jzz, Khalil, kon4n, Less, mazin, mwzera, qck, RgLM, Sacy, tuyz
- Canada 6 / 55 (11%) Apoth, eeiu, JonahP, Marved, moose, TenZ
- Chile 5 / 55 (9%) keznit, kiNgg, Mazino, Melser, Shyy
- Argentina 3 / 55 (5%) Klaus, Nozwerr, Saadhak
Pacific
- South Korea 18 / 57 (32%) ban, BeYN, BuZz, Carpe, Estrella, Foxy9, Governor, iZu, Karon, Lakia, MaKo, Medusa, Meteor, Munchkin, Sayaplayer, stax, t3xture, Zest, Rb, stew
- Japan 9 / 57 (16%) Anthem, Dep, hiroronn, Laz, Meiy, neth, SSeeS, SugarZ3ro, Yuran
- Indonesia 7 / 57 (12%) blaZek1ng, f0rsakeN, fl1pzjder, Lmemore, mindfreak, xccurate, xffero, deLb
- Philippines 6 / 57 (11%) 2ge, BORKUM, invy, JessieVash, Jremy, NDG
- Singapore 5 / 57 (9%) Benkai, Deryeon, Jinggg, lenne, Retla
- Thailand 4 / 57 (7%) Crws, JitboyS, sScary, Surf
Chinas
- China 42 / 58 (72%) AAAAY, AAK, Abo, AC, aluba, B3Ar, Biank, Bunt, cb, CHICHOO, COLDFISH, Eren, FengF, Flex1n, GuanG, Haodong, hfmi0dzjc9z7, ICEKING, Kai, kawaii, Knight, Levius, Life, LockM, LuoK1ng, Lysoar, MarT1n, Monk, nobody, o0o0o, OBONE, PangH, Shion7, Smoggy, Spitfires, sword9, TZH, Viva, whzy, YiHao, yosemite, ZmjjKK
- Taiwan 6 / 58 (10%) BerLIN, Nicc, Spring, TvirusLuke, YHchen, Yuicaw
- Hong Kong 3 / 58 (5%) HeiB, jkuro, YoU
So 22 teams, we can push to 24 for having a more balanced schedule (With 24 teams, its easy to qualify 8 teams with a pseudo swiss round, since after 3 round you have 3 teams in 3-0 already qualified and 9 team in 2-1 doing one BO for the 5 remaining places, you can add a team in 1-2 or just autoqualify one team in 2-1), it can be Germany, Spain, Czechia, Australia, Malasya, Colombia (You can also gives 3 spot for the emerging region, that have enough population to have a T1 league, but not enough developpement : India, Middle East, Africa)
Edit : Adding Lituanian player that got replaced
I just want to add (out of pure love to Lithuania and hate to the fact of how underrated she is in Valorant) that Lithuania had 5 players in T1 at the start of the season. (Before Nukkey and Destrian got replaced with purpo and trex)
(and it was BY FAR the highest density of T1 players per country population)
(and it STILL IS BY FAR the highest density of T1 players per country population.)
(For comparison: Turkey would need 78 more players in T1 than it already has to match Lithuania)
FNS, eeiu, florescent, TenZ, JonahP, Marved, Apoth, zander, koalanoob, Subroza, gMd, poised, moose... there's a LOT of great Canadian VALORANT players
India:
FNS - duelist
FNS - initiator
FNS - controller
FNS - sentinel
FNS - flex
FNS - coach
Turkey clears most countries in terms of aim. They diff at least 2 players with aim on each country. I dont think theres a single country that has more players with overwhelming aim as compared to them. I guess things can change when you add in calling and game sense though, but their aim is just so freakish that it can just shut down anything you might throw at them. Alfa, Riens, Woot, Yetujey, Cned, even Ata Kaptan and MrFallin can go crazy. Other 5 are more consistently known for their demonic mechanics and plays be it rifling or oping (Cned).
People butthurt downvoting. EG had Boostio, Ethan, Demon1, C0m and potter, all of them American.
I dont know how good Iran can be but we have MirzAA and Swerl and others too
Russia has good bones and an excellent coach, but lack quality IGL's like a lot of the european teams. Sweden is similar.
I'd say the top 3 (100% with some bias) are the USA, Canada and Turkey.
First off, Canada. FNS is still the best IGL to touch this game, I'd give him a roster of Tenz (Primary Smokes), JonahP (Flex), Eeiu (Info Initiator) and I like the Mada duelist. Another bias statement, but T2 NA duelists can 100% hang in tier 1 and I feel Mada is towards the top of those T2 NA duelists. Jusy based on mechanics, that is an upgrade in every position for an FNS team outside of s0m - whom I would say Tenz is at worst a single step below our W stripper.
Next is America, based on a very similar reason. Boostio is another genuine top tier IGL in the game, plain and simple. Give him Zekken, Zellsis, s0m/bang (relative peaks, streamer more consitent peak but bang and boostio are like besties) and trent. Another allstar lineup backed by a top IGL.
I'd just like to reiterate that it isn't just skill that would make these teams work, it's the backbone of those teams and how they flow - the intagibles outside of shooting a gun.
With that being said, my vote is Turkey. Maybe Russia could run no igl, maybe brazil could, blah blah blah. Turkey could run with 4 players and they'd still make top 4.
ALFAJER, WO0T, RIENS, CNED thise four horsemen of the apocalypse would throw FNS back into retirement before you could drop the man a Bilibili classic. Fuck the other countries, fuck my NA bias, these turks CLEAR.
Here's an idea: assuming no restrictions, Canada can probably have florescent as duelist
I am bias but I think USA would be the best with Brazil, then Canada then South Korea, then Russia.
Roster for USA would probably be
Duelist: zekken or OXY
Initiator: Trent
Controller: Valyn
Sentinel: Boostio
Flex: N4RRATE or Cryo or Zellsis
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