Diffed nAts
Diffed Suygetsu
Diffed alfajer TWICE
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Less > alfajer
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Yea i mean i dont think its a real argument. You cant compare 1 teams star player when that team is at its peak against a player that had their teams peak a year ago.
He didn't diff Alfa today. So once. They both played equally well and Alfajer did slightly better against Less.
Yes, and Alfa won more fights against Less. Less has a few more kills overall. Neither diffed the other.
Yeah, I agree that he was not good on Lotus with the Op saving. Meanwhile, Less was giving up first kills on Ascent. Both were making good plays and bad plays today. It wasn't Less who diffed Alfa. Loud diffed Fnatic as a whole.
Flair. Fnc fans' opinions should be invalidated fr. Mfs hopped on the fnc train when they started winning just to feel superior
I started supporting Fnatic when they got Leo and Chronicle in before Lock//In started. I will support them as long as they have Leo, Alfajer, and Chronicle.
It was before they played a single map this year. He said I jumped on because they started winning. So how is it exactly like he said? Also, Fnatic was my favorite team in 2021 (from SUMN FC times) and the second favorite in 2022 (PRX was fav). I switched from PRX to FNC at the start of the year because I liked Leo and Chronicle, and FNC as a whole seemed to have more players I like than PRX. I support teams based on the players, I don't have anything to do with the org.
type of guy to actually go on an e-date, then cheat with a catfish account that boosts them, paper rex are winning rn go back to them. fuck these switching fake fans penchod
okay so if FNC completely change, get a 5 man t3 roster from lets say israel, and their playstyle is boring to watch and they loose every game u stay a fan?
u become a fan of a team because of the players and their team playstyle, not because its fnatic bc if you a fan of Fnc THEN ur actually a fake fan that supports the team just because their name already holds weight.
checkmate.
Blud thinks he's cooking, your arguement is IF they change the whole team to a tier 3 roster we wouldn't support fnatic anymore.
Let me help you learn something, if you support an orgnaisation it means you respect the management, the values and also the location of the system.
Fnatic are known for fantastic scouting, management and they have been successful over a long period of time.
Your hypothetical is fucking dumb, because it wouldn't happen and the reason we support the organisation is because we know it's not a stupidly run one. Also they are in a partner league system, where no team in any of the leagues has tier 3 players. They all were a success or had an established tier 2 background - especially in EMEA.
If fnatic weren't winning and they certainly WERE NOT always winning, yes we would still support them. You never have watched any other sports seriously and don't understand what loyalty is or how fanbases work.
You cannot be a fake fan if you were there throughout and are still a supporter it defeats the definition of the phrase. Also who say "checkmate." 🤓 Such a psuedo-intellectual thing to do.
He dropped 98, and I agreed that he diffed Alfajer once. Less was 19-16 against Alfajer in that final. Yesterday's game was more about Loud diffing Fnatic. If any single player diffed anyone, it was aspas who diffed Derke (if you consider the same role), and Saadhak who diffed Boaster in prep.
Alfa is still better. Alfa almost had the same kill with less even after they lost pretty badly
He had more impact than Throwless. He gaved like 5 FK and still shoulder peeks like a dumbass. I said to myself like wtf this guy doing they would've won easily btw if they didn't put less on lurk since he failed like %50
this was a team diff game not a senti diff. alfa showed up like he always does
My chubby king beats your chubby king while team is losing no comparison.
Nice exit frags by alfa, such impactful kills
Less got more kills than him btw, and not exit frags at all 💀💀
Less got more kills cuz he's lurking no wonder mate. don't even wanna count how often less was last man alive and baited his entire team only for some frags. No one likes Less not even Aspas as he's clearly trying to leave LOUD after their fight.
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Bro created a alt acc just to reply all the trashtalk to FNC 💀💀💀 i can't
bro wakes up in the morning and first thing checks vlr forums. Like mf go work or something 💀💀💀 i can't
playing against t2 random emea teams make those "more kills" looking really impressive uh
True, and Less diffed alfa on lotus and all the lock/in gfs five maps 💀
You are right, alfa took our Mickey Mouse trophy, and Less send alfa to lowers on a tournament for a real trophy, that's the difference
mickey mouse trophy is the trophy you can't win.
Don't be so mad loser.
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK we won champions last year, its much more than a simple mickey mouse trophy
Actually it's the other way around. Only aspas played well when loud didn't perform.
When less performs though, loud is world class
Less is crazy, id Say best player of Loud after aspas. So Calm and collected, the thing is LOUD made FNATIC have fear, which no team ever did.
I think that FNC is gonna be better next time they face off tho, knowing how LOUD would play.
Bonzil got one chance in the whole year to be happy about 1 player let them enjoy lmao
https://www.vlr.gg/130682/drx-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2022-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/167391/loud-vs-drx-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-sf
AND NOT LESS IMPORTANT
https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf
WHILE
https://www.vlr.gg/189055/loud-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-gf
AND
https://www.vlr.gg/184522/paper-rex-vs-drx-champions-tour-2023-pacific-league-playoffs-gf
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 0 TROPHIES OUT OF KR
yeah yeah meanwhile your time to win anything never came and will never come 😂😂😂😂
don't forget we won vct americas while you FRICKING LOST vct pacific ^_^
Yeah that's why LOUD lost a few days ago to us
PRX are our brothers and its fine if they win too
tbh drx is my 3rd team to root for right after loud and eg so i love them, but you can't say anything about loud when you root for drx man ;)
emea fans coping about alfajer being better than him but we didn't even see alfajer on lotus, less was 1000x more impactful than him even losing some trades (tbh we didn't even see to much of them face to face but ok)
don't forget that less diffed alfa on lock in ^_^
Alfa was holding c site all by himself with an awp for two rounds in a row...as KJ.
he could not get a pick and he could not get out fast enough to have any value, and he was useless in both retakes since he baited his entire team with an awp.
Too little matches to compare less with alfajer, both are really good players, but i think less is a bit of "underrated".
I do see ppl talking about less but not as talking about aspas or sadhaak, less' impact in every loud's match is HUGE, getting kills in rotations, sometimes doing some crazy 1's when opening angles (exemple that 1 vs derke in ascent score 6x5), not only he has great skills but also a big knowledge about game plans and rotations, and when LOUD need him most, he looks like he has ice cold in his veins playing like he never played before.
Now in comparison to alfajer, honestly i do confirm that i didnt watch fnatic games (yk 11-3 traumatized me a lot) and so i dont know about his playstyle, but just seeing that play on lotus where he waits every player to pass just for killing everyone shows us just a litte bit of how alfajer can be impactful on a match, probably the last match was a fluke but who knows.
Also thinking in overall, less is contesting this role for best sentinel since last year, perhaps i live in a bubble that only i can see this but thats the first time that i see alfajer also competing for this role.
TL;DR:
Overall: imo less is beter
At the moment: THE TOURNAMENT IS NOT OVER!!! LETS WAIT!!!!!!!
LOUD could be going to lowers after PRX and getting destroyed by FNATIC with alfajer outclassing everybody
or
FNATIC getting demolished by FUT
WE CANT PREDICT THE FUTURE!!!
Based on the below data, I cannot find any support to your claim, Less > Alfajer etc.
Moreover, the term "diff" essentially means difference, referring to a kind of difference involving subtraction - a remainder, so to speak. It is commonly used when describing a situation where a certain player demonstrates superior skills compared to another player (the opponent) who is using the same agent in a match or game, which also could be traced in their statistics versus that particular player. While you can still consider minor differences, however, that is not the main point of such expression. And let me help you here...
NO DIFF IS OBSERVED IN THE DATA BELOW, and if there was a small "dif," we could simply brush it of as insignificant, especially because Team Liquid is/was nowhere near as competitive to draw any helpful conclusions <-- yes, they were utter shite!
Undoubtedly, Less is a great and important player, but his significance stems from being a key member of an exceptional team he belongs to. The team's success in winning games should not be attributed to one player outperforming another (the opponent), but rather to their overall statistics as a team. That is, if Loud won Fnatic = team Loud won team Fnatic, and only then we look for any possible discrepancies amongst the players.
Also, we cannot claim that "Less - the best sentinel of the world, not even if Loud wins the Champions! Less, is no doubt amazing talent and one of the finest sentinel players in Valorant, but he is not the best.
I really hope I make sense here... However, if you feel you may argue my point of view, then please feel free to offer your well-organized argument...
or GTFO!
Name Agent RD KDA ADR ACS FK FD
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Alfajer KJ 2158 1.65 161 232 10.7 7.36
Suygetsu KJ 1539 1.46 145 211 8.25 6.43
Less KJ 1820 1.47 145 210 9.39 7.74
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Less Viper 1496 1.79 157 231 9.82 7.35
nAts Viper 1913 1.67 151 226 8.52 8.62
Alfajer 16:19 Less (Lock//In23 F)
Alfajer 9:7 Less (C2023 P-offs)
nAts 0:4 Less (C2023 group) -> TL 2:13 Loud on Haven
suygetsu 10:13 Less (C2023 group) Cheers🍻
I also wanted to mention that both Less and Alfajer are seemed to be one of most improved players in the game IMHO, which is in itself a crucial statistic for us fans, be it Fnatic or Loud, since we wish our team to succeed, and not just one individual player out of the team.
Also, the OP may safely enter Less's chat and ask him whether he feels himself to be better than the named players. And I am confident Less will present an accurate picture of the situation... every pro player understands (or should, if not already) the styles and success rates of their opponents in the same agent group they play.
I think both players are the best players in their own team and top 3 in the world right now, both are mechanically gifted and super clutch. I think Less is a little better though. Whenever I see the other team in a 5v2, 4v2, 3v1 and Less is still alive I always feel like he is that guy who could turn it around. Super scary.
Less is the best player in the world. Derke and mako second. End of discussion.
Alfajer = exit fragger
Less = the one who gets the impactful kills, second caller, understands macro more than most IGLs even
understands macro more than most IGLs even
That's copium right there. You can say he is good second caller that's it.
because you just don’t know this roster as I do. Less can be the IGL of the team with his knowledge rn. ofc he won’t because Saadhak is more experienced and is the father figure the team needs
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So you are saying that because he is better than 3 emea sentinels he is the best in the world.
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1657/valorant-champions-2023
Right now by stats Alfa > Less.
/closed
Edit: I doN't care how they got the kills by lurk or exit Idfc I care about stats.
compare Loud’s run to FNATIC’s run, you bozo. it’s easy to farm against weaker teams, mainly when bro always try to get exit kills to boost his kda lmao
don't care didn't asked + You BR clowns were calling NaVi Shit + TL Chokers LOLLLL
Now you are saying Loud had hard path bcs you guys want to ?
I guess the people who supported FPX last year should now cheer for the Chinese team instead of NAVI
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