The most overrated team is NV, they think they are going to win Berlin after losing close maps to Sentinels and beating XSET who is their best matchup.
The most overrated team is NV, they think they are going to win Berlin after losing close maps to Sentinels and beating XSET who is their best matchup.
TSM is not overrated they just have a lot of fans. People understand how good they are.
how are you telling me coming dead last against the top 8 teams in NA right now means that they are good? this is the team people expected to go to berlin and beat Sentinels. dont give me that shit
Who the fuck expected them to beat sen or even win berlin lmao. People overestimated them going to berlin as they were on a good streak. Nobody expected them to beat sen, or even win berlin.
Oh I've met the delisional TSM fans. 90% of them are high as fuck on copium. Outside of these forums which you either have;
crazy tsm fans
boosted ego sen fans
delusional scream fans
then you have the cNed best player fans
then the cringy mwzera fans, which I probably summoned by typing the first 3 letters of his name.
However anyone who has any resemblance of a functioning human, could tell TSM had 0 chance of winning berlin. They had 1 player who had to perform out of his mind every match, just for them to win. When he didn't, they looked like they belonged in nsg monthy.
Ironic thing is, I'm a tsm fan when it comes to NA, because Wardell was my introduction into how a Jett plays, and his flashing style last year. Just I'm not gonna pretend that tsm arent a bottom t1 team at best.
You're getting fans "HOPES" vs "Expectations" mixed up. TSM fans didn't believe that sh^t at all
I don’t think adding the best player to the best team while the rest of NA is in a slump is similar to envy’s situation
Wdym Faze was completely dominant and by far the 2nd best team in NA unlike NV how was NA in a slump
you proved your point by saying faze was the 2nd best in NA at the time you know its a slump when that is the case
how are they not going to berlin if they are the second best team in NA? every team in na got better than them and they failed to keep up. They lost to a tier 2 team (DZ) in the first qualifier for stage 3. They arent good.
1 or 2 days b4 the masters 1 tenz join sentinels and they have only couple of hours to practice while Nv yay days practicing with Envy so.... SEN> NV
yes but was there competition as good as the current sentinels? while nv has to face up against best player in val best igl in val best controller in val best sentinel in val sen went up against boomers. a lot of boomers
or they were in a honeymoon. few days of practice means nothing here yay is a duelist he only needs to get a feel for the timing and nothing else. he doesnt need practice to get value out of his utility or his fragging power.
typical sentinels fan cant handle the fact that maybe other teams can beat ur team and ur not gonna be on the top forever
We have been on the top forever and there is no evidence that we’re not going to be anytime soon
this mans feeding fans the reality here, feed him some stars for godssake
you're really fitting the typical Sentinels fan lmao
How delusonal can you get?
Stfu faze fan your team is irrelevant and SEN shut them down in the only good tournament they will ever have
because he's a Sentinels fan, he needs to attack the team you are a fan of because he's insecure
watch his stream? he gets to be egoistic cause they on top, but i wonder how he's gonna act when sentinels arent the best in the world anymore. shaz is easily the worst personality on sentinels.
Bro he is wholesome. He only talk back when the fans of other teams talk shit in chat. People really spam dead father in the chat, he deserves so much better.
im not defending the ones who spam dead father in chat. they should get banned from twitch.
wow defending people who spam such hurtful words as "dead father" in shaz's chat, and you call yourself an sentinels fan. you should be ashamed of yourself, shaz is too.
That is just sad bro. People really do things like these to seek attention. Pathetic 😞🙁
SPAMMING "dead father" haha im not that kind of person lmao, and im kinda sad that shahz father dead days b4 the first strike imagine the one who supports you died before the tournament
yeah , ( hope im not associated with this dude , NV isnt overrated smh )
well it will be like 87-0 NiP at least, dominate at start of the game
we will see if they fall off
I just don't see that many people overrating NV tbh. I see a some people calling them very good and the 2nd best team in the world but that seems fair since they added Yay and almost beat the best team in the world.
it might of been 2-0 but the scores where 13-11 both maps? idk why ur trying so hard to prove that envy is overrated when all people have said is that they are the second best in na when they have proven that they are
You’re right they are the 2nd best team in NA, honestly they’re not that overrated either idk what I was on. But I still don’t think they are very close to SEN
yay literally said he was sick to the point where he sometimes couldn't even see his crosshair during the matches and had to take advil to be able to somewhat play? like stfu please
agree fpx, just keeps choking bro why do their fans even believe anymore.
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agreed, they are kinda dogwater considering they have jamppi and scream, they should be washing all emea teams but they still struggle heavily. worst firepower to results ratio in emea easily.
NA: TSM, NV (bit Overrated, that doesn't mean that they aren't the TOP 2/3 of NA)
EMEA: FPX, LULQUID, OXG
LULQUID just stomped on the team that won 12 maps against G2 on the same map lmao.
This "logic" really doesn't apply here. Maybe you should check all other 500+ examples for that matter.
This isn't a rock paper scissors game.
bro, Liquid is literally the nemesis of Oxygen, because the playstyle of Liquid is the counter of Oxygen playstyle. Also you need to remember that OXG didn't have a lot of time to prepare the match against Liquid
It either has to be TSM for NA or Liquid for EU. EU on paper looks good, and still end up performing worst. TSM has roster imbalances in my opinion
Ive never seen a fanbase as confident as Liquid fans. Also arent you a Liquid fan?
i am a liquid fan, i dont think liquid fanbase is confident as much as they are loyal, we are loyal to liquid but realistic too.
What? Liquid probably has the least confident fanbases. Its always the non-liquid flairs that overrate them.
Every single team is overrated at the moment. With how the dynamics are working, there is no team, minus Sentinels, that is possible to maintain any kind of dominance. EU and other regions not playing against NA makes any conversation about who is better right now automatically irrelevant. No way to determine anything until some inter-regional tournaments happen.
This. But your comment will get lost in the sauce. Let the rabble continue argue.
Nah, NV legit has a chance to do well. Especially if Yay can do what TenZ did under Shahzam and learn to not get caught out in meaningless deaths. NV is improving.
I'd probably list C9B as the most overrated team in recent memory. Not that they're garbage, but a lot of people even myself though they would be Top 3 team in NA. Maybe with Vanity they might have a resurgence.
FPX really clear. Ange1 the most overrated player. IGL, smoker and the number 1 on first deaths.
shao seriously needs a better dude he just enters the site and gets three kills with any agent please give that dude a better team
Another gloryhunter who got on the sen bandwagon because they were wining.
fpx , GOD when sean gares said fpx were best team in the world ( this was before sentinels won iceland ) i was like Oo ok they actually might be rly good , but they just choke , no offence to seangares and fpx fans
yeah im rly bad at valorant , ill agree with that xD , im bad at the game but know alot about it ( idk if thats good or bad )
Every na team apart from sen is crazy overrated they all go out first in Berlin
im officially over "fpx is the favorite in the tournament" or "fpx is one of the best teams in eu" or "angel one of the best igls in valorant eu" or "they have good firepower" this shit is over fpx is a team that hasn't achieved anything not a single championship since the beta and is always considered as a favourite.
FPX is top 10 at best
I think you just have to say FPX due to their result in these playoffs :/ Sad to see because they have always looked good until they get close to tourney wins and then just dissipate
Nah, I think everyone recognises they are currently not in the discussion after their playoff performance. They are no longer rated, period
C9B tbh. The Copium with them has always been super high and they’ve dissapointed a lot of the time…