icy and jamppi are good shouts

I think tex is underrated

Respect the first strike winner or whatever that tournament was called

This is not crashies at his peak but he is playing very well

n1cf or inspire?

both those names are too tuff I can't decide🔥🔥🔥

Messi vs Ronaldo

what

You forgot about c0m and sato

It's unfortunate that in 2026 Cryo still only plays his comfort roles. Perhaps that will change in the near future...

M8 got relegated remember?

Desperately needing a job, Comeback joined 100T after Asuna was dropped and moved to flex. They proceeded to go on a deep international run in Masters Washington, DC.

he's really good at shooting people in ranked therefore he's going to make Lev the best team itw

Rating is the most overrated metric of all time and should never be used in a serious argument

Please refer to #8

Lev won Paris, Zekken is carrying Sentinels top placements (again), and Woot has decided to remain perma jett and iso (has told his viewers on his stream that he doesn't want to play initiator)

his playstyle really suits the sentinel role ngl but yeah he's gotta learn the roles

Replaced by Asuna

he's a flex in 2026 so he doesn't qualify unfortunately

Suspended for punching Munhckin

you dk ball

Waylay merchant

1. Kaajaik
2. Zekken
3. Primmie
4. Woot
5. Sato

Please let me know if this is valid

Next one up imo

no bias

And it's the same 10 people fighting for ts (2 of them are already in this thread)

It's like they were hired to push their agenda

Boostio was deadass a fragging igl back then

and then he went to 100T

Zekken too

Trexx caused Derke to crash out and has had a reputation of being toxic. I don't know all the details, but he doesn't seem like a very good teammate. Obviously, he can change, but I don't think his behavior has anything to do with the IGL. He's very talented though, so TL might make it far off of fire power alone.

TL going to have their vitality arc

hot take: they are not even going to be top 5

Does that mean they are winning Champs?

They constantly have super team year after year and still can't close it out when it matters most of the time. I think the most overrated thing about Fnatic is their mental. People believed they are the team with the best mental in the world after the 11-3 comeback in Lock In yet, but there have been many times where they have shown to get way too complacent when they are up and way too stressed when they are down and this is shown in their grand finals record. Why are Fnatic not considered chokers?

Sidegrade

I don't want to ever C Xeppaa at 9 ever again

believe that then, I can't change your mind

Pacific is still better

Format is bad (online qualifiers + BO1), schedule is horrible, meta was rolled back, not part of the champions bracket (no points or prestige), production horrible, teams playing on the same day, and more

Money and level of teams is the only thing ewc has going for it

Wdym? It's not mickey and not masters, that's the best thing you can ask for in an off season tournament.

as a series this is worse

wdym, it's not mickey mouse but it's not the level of masters. There's a lot of things wrong with this tournament besides level of teams + prizepool (which are the only thing this tournament has going for it).

I'll address the first point, second one doesn't even make sense cause every team is in the same situation so it doesn't matter

Prize pool was good. Teams were good. But that's pretty much all this tournament has going for it.

Format is bad (online qualifiers + BO1), schedule is horrible, meta was rolled back, not part of the champions bracket (no points or prestige), production horrible, teams playing on the same day, and honestly I could go on

Not mickey mouse, but not at level of any masters is completely fair imo

unironically true

yes

still a reverse sweep with a 9-3 map choke in the process + several clutches lost

and it's very hard to exclude the fact that th only won 5 in the first 2 maps, but even without that it's still the worst choke in the gf

everyone should, Fnatic made history

That's fair but I'm talking about as a series

I unironically think it is. Lock in had that 11-3 one map choke but before that all the maps were blowouts from both teams.

FNC vs TH was a reverse sweep where TH literally got 5 rounds in the first 2 maps. Literally all the momentum in the world. And FNC did it against a team that is known for losing the grand finals. And they lost so many clutches and lost a 9-3 map in the process.

FNC did not seem to care nearly as much when they lost compared to when they lost in Toronto

They are already locked for Champs

d3ffo vibes

Basically this, people saying this tournament is equal to masters to push their EMEA agenda are shameless

5/10

finals was cool

That's fair. Is the only thing that qualifies whether a tournament is a major or not the amount of money that's involved?

I've already forgotten and locked in on champs