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BR is NOT EMEA

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cioccolat

Too many Emea fans have been going around claiming that language barriers are not a valid argument, since "Fnatic has other nationalities".
Lets look at the stats

Swedish English Literacy = 86% ~
Finland English Literacy = 70% ~
Latvia English Literacy = 26% ~
Ukraine English Literacy = 23% ~
Turkish English Literacy = 16% ~
Russian English Literacy = 5.48%

So not only do the majority of European countries indeed have a higher familiarization with the english language overall, the only country that doesnt break 2 digits in percentage, is Russia, but if we evaluate the Valorant ecosystem specifically, what servers do we have?:

Frankfurt, London, Madrid, Warsaw, Stockholm, Paris, Istanbul

From the experiences of Youtubers, Pro-players and streamers, we can define that the majority of these servers communicate in English most of the time. Why? Because there are too many nationalities for a common experience to arise, therefore a "common" language is defined. ENGLISH
Its also important to mention that that depending on your location you can switch between these servers at will. You are Region Locked yes, but not server locked.

bUt ThAtS rAnKeD WhAt AbOuT tHe PrO sCeNe???

Well, considering that even before the EMEA Franchise League, there were still "international" leagues that granted spots at Masters/Champions, we can safely define AGAIN, that the multitude of Nationalities DEMANDS a common Language, with the exception of the French region and Turkish region, which cultivated enough talent to field a full team. However the French team in question is made, from players who were part of EMEA-Style International teams Anyway. Also the French English Literacy is 56%~.

But enough about Fraudmea, lets talk about the subjects of subjugation, LATAM and BR.
Now, lets see, what are the servers these regions have?
LATAM - Miami / Mexico City / Santiago
BR - São Paulo

But wait, 2/3 of the LATAM servers dont even reach LATAM properly? hell miami is in the US, and Mexico is Central America... which only leaves us with Santiago.
And BR only has São Paulo, are these regions Server Locked? yes, if your account was either made in Santiago or Sao Paulo, you cannot play in other servers.
Which means not only most BR and LaTAM players dont interact with english speaking countries, the languages spoken in game are the same as the country of server origin.
Hell, the LATAM and BR players barely interact, with the ocasional LATAM player with disgusting ping on a BR server.
But thats not all, lets look at events, Before VCT Americas, the Tournaments were separate, BR fought itself for a spot and LATAM fought itself for a spot. with LCQ being when these teams would face each other in a non-masters/champions event.
Now looking at Off-Season tournaments, not only are half of them either FULL BR or FULL LATAM, the other half simply Doesnt have english speaking teams.
The only one i could find is Superdome Latam 2023, THIS YEAR.
So, not only does LATAM and BR mostly only play themselves and each other, outsider teams simply did not express interest in interacting with national teams.
Most BR/LATAM teams will only interact with english speaking players ON INTERNATIONAL EVENTS AND BOOTCAMPS.
And im not even mentioning English Literacy (Average of under 3%, with Argentina being the only outliar), you can visit the biggest cities in these countries and find less than 10 people that actually speak the language of English.

In Conclusion; not only are the Ranked and Professional ecosystems COMPLETELY different, with EMEA having the requirement of english as a common language, and BR/LATAM not interacting with it at all. The Levels of literacy are also worse in the South American region, meaning the pool of players with english as a second language is incredibly smaller.
EMEA needs English, BR/LATAM doesnt.

A Helpful note is that usually EMEA players have different backgrounds, meaning, everyone communicates in a "broken english" or at the same level, there is fewer chances of power dynamics, while on a team like Sentinels, the majority of the team is fluently speaking, with 2 teammates who are learning as they go, even if not intended, the fluent players operate on a "higher placement" the Brazilians dont need to learn enough english to talk to other english speakers at the same level as them (EMEA team format), they need to learn while the other half of the team not only already knows english, they have been communicating in it since they were born, there are expressions, sounds and intonations that to a fluent english speaker are obvious, but to learning speakers are still new. You need to remember, they havent experienced the same culture you did, to expect them to think the same is asinine.
Summary of this Note: EMEA players are usually at the same "level" of english, while Sacy and Pancada are operating in a team were they are the only outsiders.

THIS IS NOT A SENTINELS SPECIFIC CASE, NZR HAD THE SAME ISSUE WHEN PLAYING WITH FURIA, HIS PERFORMANCE SKYROCKETED WHEN HE JOINED LEV, ALTHOUGH HIS DIFFICULTIES WERE NOT AT THE SAME LEVEL AS SACY AND PANCADA. SAADHAK IS AN OUTLIAR IN THIS RESEARCH

SOURCES
https://www.ef.edu/blog/language/why-learn-russian/yway
https://howwidelyspoken.com/how-widely-spoken-english-turkey/
https://howwidelyspoken.com/how-widely-spoken-english-sweden/
https://howwidelyspoken.com/is-engish-widely-spoken-finland/
sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjGmPqC85SCAxWbH7kGHZ8zDWgQFnoECAgQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvisitukraine.today%2Fblog%2F2394%2Fenglish-speaking-ukraine-why-you-need-to-learn-english-now%23%3A~%3Atext%3DAccording%2520to%2520a%2520survey%2520conducted%2Cthe%2520household%2520or%2520professional%2520level).&usg=AOvVaw10V7rhHg5Ke9u7XRbkJkVg&opi=89978449
https://www.thelocal.fr/20191105/why-the-french-are-getting-a-bit-better-at-speaking-english#:~:text=An%20average%20of%2057.25%20percent,improvement%20is%20likely%20to%20continue.

#2
Chunkio
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aint reading allat 💀

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cioccolat
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remain ignorant then

#53
Crystalzer0
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flair + flag = y0y

#54
Charism
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As if u can

#3
Franticon
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What the fuck bro write lesser

#5
number1_cned_hater
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https://www.vlr.gg/player/8447/less

#7
cioccolat
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cant, im a natural yapper

#9
Franticon
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Vlr is NOT for you, jobless baiters everywhere

#11
cioccolat
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knowledge is free, someday they will learn something

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SmartPerson
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flag + flair

#37
Franticon
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DRX ☠️

#49
Obsidian_Echo
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GE 💀

#50
zxcvb23
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We don't claim him

#63
Franticon
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I dont near your smelly asses to claim me 🤣

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SmartPerson
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chega no resumo

#8
cioccolat
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ai é foda, deixo o esquema mastigado e a glr num consegue ler uma pagina mano?

#18
Schizophrenic_Brazil_Fan
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Como usuário da tag [allat] eu entendo sua frustração kkkkkkk

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SmartPerson
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tô brincando parceiro, eu li tudinho B) tu é fera

#68
mrbtt
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Pedi para o chatgpt reduzir o texto explicando ele em 1 paragrafo:

The author argues that language barriers are a valid argument in the EMEA (Europe, Middle East, and Africa) region of Valorant, despite the presence of players from multiple nationalities. They provide statistics on English literacy rates in various countries and note that most servers in the region communicate in English. In contrast, Latin American (LATAM) and Brazil (BR) regions have servers that are not region-locked but have limited English communication and lower literacy rates. The author concludes that EMEA needs English as a common language, while BR/LATAM does not, and highlights the challenges that non-native English speakers face in teams with fluent English speakers.

edit: agora pedi pra traduzir em pt-br pra ti

O autor argumenta que as barreiras linguísticas são um argumento válido na região EMEA (Europa, Oriente Médio e África) do Valorant, apesar da presença de jogadores de várias nacionalidades. Eles fornecem estatísticas sobre as taxas de alfabetização em inglês em vários países e observam que a maioria dos servidores na região se comunica em inglês. Em contraste, as regiões latino-americanas (LATAM) e Brasil (BR) têm servidores que não são bloqueados por região, mas têm comunicação limitada em inglês e taxas de alfabetização mais baixas. O autor conclui que a EMEA precisa do inglês como língua comum, enquanto o BR/LATAM não precisa, e destaca os desafios que os falantes não nativos de inglês enfrentam em equipes com falantes fluentes de inglês.

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Schizophrenic_Brazil_Fan
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Na minha opinião o chatgpt deu uma minguada, n ficou certo

#10
yu1
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bom texto, é estranho tanto o emea quanto o na não perceber a diferença cultural

#12
cioccolat
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muito obrigado parceiro, estranho mesmo

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kbkdark
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n é estranho n... normalmente é só babaquice de muitos deles por nunca tentarem observar esse tipo de coisa de ângulos/perspectivas diferentes.

Olha os casos de racismo do Vini Jr e olha a porcentagem de torcedores negros nos estádios espanhóis, como vc espera que alguém vai ter a noção da merda que eles fazem/dizem, sem ter quem tire satisfação?

É foda, mas é a realidade... tem gente assim como o cioccolat que PRECISA comer o cu desses caras e mostrar pra eles que a realidade deles não é a mesma que a nossa, etc

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Holistical_Nil
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i did read all of that
and i gotta im impressed and glad you wrote all of this
you even stated the sources at the end
if only everyone could be as half as intelligent as you on the internet

#14
number1_cned_hater
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he is the outlier in the iq level of this site

#59
cioccolat
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i do not deserve such high level of praise

#15
CoCloudy
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W essay
I actually read allat
cited sources and everything
made a clear conclusion and effective thesis statement
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
5 stars
good job <3

#58
cioccolat
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thanks man!

#16
Dolphin
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damn, this is very well written

#17
Schizophrenic_Brazil_Fan
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Actual BANGER Post Cioccolat GJ

#20
z0xiC
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where do I start reading?

#41
kbkdark
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From the point that you stop to be arrogant and an asshole

Hope this helps 🙂

#21
myth77
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W

#22
PINTO0
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allat
W

#23
myth77
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Obrigado pelo texto, da até preguiça de explicar pra esses gringos que america do sul não é Europa

#24
bearmans
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allat for a point

#25
Peteer
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W

#26
Tooker
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Very well written + sources :)

I think people that have grown up speaking English (even if as a foreign language) can sometimes under estimate how hard it is to learn. So it would make sense, at least from my experience, for someone like Pancada who has only started learning English after going to SEN, to struggle with the language. English and Portuguese aren't even similar languages, so it would be especially difficult. Not to mention, English speaking players aren't talking in textbook grammatical English, it's normally going to be very broken and informal.

#27
Yistyy
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Rare Bronzil W
Bro actually cooked

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babysasuke
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Fwiw former USSR countries learned Russian as a secondary language in school until recently so most older citizens know Russian instead of English as a secondary language (at least the basics) so some of these percentages are bound to rise as English (specifically American English) is the International business language and the most influential language in the world

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cioccolat
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i did come across the rising number of literacy in english amongst the russian youth, but i decided to go with a conservative estimate so i wouldnt be accused of "exagerating the numbers to make a point". Since the argument still stands regardless of russian EL

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minte
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Swedish English Literacy = 86% ~

RAHHHHH 🇸🇪🦅🌲❄️🐻

regardless, very well written

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LyCan52
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Norway better tho 🇧🇻🛢️

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Number_1_Sheydos_Fan
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Swedish arabic literacy 115%

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cioccolat
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i was actually pretty surprised it was so high, anyway props to swedenn

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Pengu12
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M0nt still can’t speak English

#32
dapada
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touch some grass

#52
cioccolat
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i write scientific articles about pet health for a living. im pretty sure im outside enough

#33
BoF7ooM
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Great post. Nice read.

#34
ionlyHave1Zuni
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Ótimo post chocolate

#35
Selex
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Good post.

#36
Sk00d
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in conclusion: git gud and learn english

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kbkdark
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in conclusion:

You're just pathetic 🙂

#38
patuj
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Valid, but this isn't really as much the case when it comes to Sentinels and Fnatic tho. Sacy's English is good and Pancada's English skills seem to be/were on same level as Alfajer's if not even better. Of course Alfajer plays on English speaking servers, but he has only played in Turkish teams IIRC. So even though your point is understandable its still lazy excuse for shit results. Guy like Pancada should have learned as much as he would have in EU servers by now. And Sacy doesn't even have that problem.

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moulmein
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wtf does this even mean

#44
kbkdark
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Mano... cê foi cirúrgico, post foda demais e é um W do krl

Tem muito gringo babaquinha que acha que o mundo gira somente em torno deles por serem "países de 1º mundo" e foda-se o resto, sendo que a nossa realidade é muito mais dura e complicada do que a deles.
Alguém precisa abrir os olhos desses pouco gringuinhos lixo kkkkkkkkkkkkkk

#45
azeijrazjerflazeknrfgfv
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ok, stop your baile de Favela.
BR is dog shit like NA, I don't care if you can or can't read Shakespeare.

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cioccolat
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1 Champions
2 Masters Runner-ups (Rekjavic / LOCKIN)
Top 3 Champions 2023
1 VCT Americas
and all VCB Splits in 2022.

LOUD is not to be underestimated

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SmartPerson
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flag piece of shit

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azeijrazjerflazeknrfgfv
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todo bem bronzilan

#46
Nachtel
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Good post

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Tenzsexual
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I see the point but Sacy should not have that issue in the first place. Pancada should at this point have good enough english to comm and unless he called a lot in LOUD, he should be fine. There was a clear disconnect not just between the BR players but everyone, but they should be fully integrated atp. Pancada especially should this year not just give basic comms and understand calls but also be calling what he wants to do.

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A year abroad for a cold open rookie is not enough to become fluent.

A good rule of thumb is that you can expect to be conversational in a language within 6-12 months of dedicated study and practice. This means that you'll be able to hold basic conversations and understand most of what is being said. To reach fluency, you'll likely need to dedicate at least 2-3 years to the language.

Yes he can talk, but he isnt fluent, he still likely has the mental lag learners experience.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjo982vnJaCAxW8qZUCHX37CVcQFnoECAwQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gviusa.com%2Fblog%2Fsmb-how-long-does-it-take-to-learn-a-language-fluently%2F%23%3A~%3Atext%3DA%2520good%2520rule%2520of%2520thumb%2C3%2520years%2520to%2520the%2520language.&usg=AOvVaw0qOcZfpwVH59YT_iASf9yS&opi=89978449

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I get that in normal conversations especially due to cultural differences but for in game comming I can't agree. Sure you might not be on point calling what you want but you will be calling to do things which you've probably done tens of thousands of times by now, that should not be an issue and even if it's in broken english espcially since you will you use in game-specific terms anyone would be able to understand it. Asking to fight with you or for a flash or to do a bait setup, stuff like that should be second nature by now. On the fly suff is a little different since he probably thinks in Portuguese and then translates to English but small coordination stuff should not at all be an issue.

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Why are we using a countries data for an specific case? Alfajer’s English was just as bad as Pancada’s and Sacy’s, and so were many other players.

I Can guarantee you after 1 split playing in LA and practicing everyday their English became much better than all those players who have been “playing ranked in English”.

I’m not saying it was never an issue, but atp it’s simply an awful excuse for a massive underperformance, justify it however you want

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Sacy is fluent, he only remarked that IGLing would be difficult to do in English, and he never did it for Sentinels. Pancada might have struggled in the first months, but now he speaks well enough to be compared to Alfajer, yet their performance difference is still abysmal. Roles were the issue, of course, but this team has no cohesion at all.

They just put these players together, and they probably have very different styles and mindsets. Imagine the former LOUD players getting Depph as the IGL when they had Saadhak, then they went to Marved, who was completely new to the role. Also, until the team's struggles bring them together, they probably had nothing to aim for as a team, and perhaps not even TenZ care anymore about Sentinels not getting trophies as an org. There was no glue, and even now this is their main issue.

Their plans for the next season are good, finally they have a proper IGL, and Zellsis performed well even when he was lost in the first map (they never practiced Sunset with him, John said). They reversed a loss, which is a good start, and it's the first win without Zekken carrying. Still, the team's synergy is lacking, if they want to go to Masters and beyond, they need to improve their teamwork and figure out something to aim for together.

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My point isnt to explain Sentinels mediocrity, its to explain Sacy and Pancada's difficulties in adaptation. the idea they would have anything to play for in Sentinels is dumb i agree, its not a friends team aiming high, or a pro team looking to put their name in stone.
Its a team of clout pick-ups, famous players that will create viewership but not results.
Hell, Sacy himself said he "proved himself by winning Champions", what else has he to play for other than financial stability? the franchising already gives him that, he doesnt have a reason to be at the top.

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NA_BEST_COUNTRY
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I didn't read allat but I'm assuming the main takeaway is that everyone should speak American

#62
tinyVALORANTwatcher
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In Asia-Pacific,most players could speak English, even in China, as VALORANT was approved 2 years later than International, players then all trained in HongKong or Singapore servers.

#64
Shidoh
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meu mano lançou um artigo com introdução, revisão bibliográfica e argumentações sustentadas por citações. um acadêmico nato. e eu achando ser o único pesquisador ativo no ambiente de conversa de bar chamado vlrgg

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.

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cioccolat
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Kkkkkkkkkk obrigado pelo reconhecimento mano

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dito isto, eu concordo com a maior parte dos pontos apresentados, mas no caso do sacy eu n sei se comunicação justifica a performance tão abaixo do esperado. ele já passou por más fases até no BR. o pancada deve ter problema processando info rapidamente mesmo

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Who ever said emea and latam are the same?

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Cannot
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But enough about Fraudmea, lets talk about the subjects of subjugation, LATAM and BR.

this goes in the hall of fame of sentences written on vlr. absolute poetry 👍

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Has anyone seen the communication on Paper Rex vods? English is not the first language of any of those people. At some ocasions you can clearly see Forsaken and Mindfreak talking in their own mother language. I don't think language barrier plays that big of a factor. Instead, team chemistry means much more than that. And don't forget about the "Não faz merda Khalil (do not fuck it up, Khalil)", this is everything but pro communication.

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Too many Emea fans have been going around claiming that language barriers are not a valid argument, since "Fnatic has other nationalities".
Lets look at the stats

Swedish English Literacy = 86% ~
Finland English Literacy = 70% ~
Latvia English Literacy = 26% ~
Ukraine English Literacy = 23% ~
Turkish English Literacy = 16% ~
Russian English Literacy = 5.48%

So not only do the majority of European countries indeed have a higher familiarization with the english language overall, the only country that doesnt break 2 digits in percentage, is Russia, but if we evaluate the Valorant ecosystem specifically, what servers do we have?:

Frankfurt, London, Madrid, Warsaw, Stockholm, Paris, Istanbul

From the experiences of Youtubers, Pro-players and streamers, we can define that the majority of these servers communicate in English most of the time. Why? Because there are too many nationalities for a common experience to arise, therefore a "common" language is defined. ENGLISH
Its also important to mention that that depending on your location you can switch between these servers at will. You are Region Locked yes, but not server locked.

bUt ThAtS rAnKeD WhAt AbOuT tHe PrO sCeNe???

Well, considering that even before the EMEA Franchise League, there were still "international" leagues that granted spots at Masters/Champions, we can safely define AGAIN, that the multitude of Nationalities DEMANDS a common Language, with the exception of the French region and Turkish region, which cultivated enough talent to field a full team. However the French team in question is made, from players who were part of EMEA-Style International teams Anyway. Also the French English Literacy is 56%~.

But enough about Fraudmea, lets talk about the subjects of subjugation, LATAM and BR.
Now, lets see, what are the servers these regions have?
LATAM - Miami / Mexico City / Santiago
BR - São Paulo

But wait, 2/3 of the LATAM servers dont even reach LATAM properly? hell miami is in the US, and Mexico is Central America... which only leaves us with Santiago.
And BR only has São Paulo, are these regions Server Locked? yes, if your account was either made in Santiago or Sao Paulo, you cannot play in other servers.
Which means not only most BR and LaTAM players dont interact with english speaking countries, the languages spoken in game are the same as the country of server origin.
Hell, the LATAM and BR players barely interact, with the ocasional LATAM player with disgusting ping on a BR server.
But thats not all, lets look at events, Before VCT Americas, the Tournaments were separate, BR fought itself for a spot and LATAM fought itself for a spot. with LCQ being when these teams would face each other in a non-masters/champions event.
Now looking at Off-Season tournaments, not only are half of them either FULL BR or FULL LATAM, the other half simply Doesnt have english speaking teams.
The only one i could find is Superdome Latam 2023, THIS YEAR.
So, not only does LATAM and BR mostly only play themselves and each other, outsider teams simply did not express interest in interacting with national teams.
Most BR/LATAM teams will only interact with english speaking players ON INTERNATIONAL EVENTS AND BOOTCAMPS.
And im not even mentioning English Literacy (Average of under 3%, with Argentina being the only outliar), you can visit the biggest cities in these countries and find less than 10 people that actually speak the language of English.

In Conclusion; not only are the Ranked and Professional ecosystems COMPLETELY different, with EMEA having the requirement of english as a common language, and BR/LATAM not interacting with it at all. The Levels of literacy are also worse in the South American region, meaning the pool of players with english as a second language is incredibly smaller.
EMEA needs English, BR/LATAM doesnt.

A Helpful note is that usually EMEA players have different backgrounds, meaning, everyone communicates in a "broken english" or at the same level, there is fewer chances of power dynamics, while on a team like Sentinels, the majority of the team is fluently speaking, with 2 teammates who are learning as they go, even if not intended, the fluent players operate on a "higher placement" the Brazilians dont need to learn enough english to talk to other english speakers at the same level as them (EMEA team format), they need to learn while the other half of the team not only already knows english, they have been communicating in it since they were born, there are expressions, sounds and intonations that to a fluent english speaker are obvious, but to learning speakers are still new. You need to remember, they havent experienced the same culture you did, to expect them to think the same is asinine.
Summary of this Note: EMEA players are usually at the same "level" of english, while Sacy and Pancada are operating in a team were they are the only outsiders.

THIS IS NOT A SENTINELS SPECIFIC CASE, NZR HAD THE SAME ISSUE WHEN PLAYING WITH FURIA, HIS PERFORMANCE SKYROCKETED WHEN HE JOINED LEV, ALTHOUGH HIS DIFFICULTIES WERE NOT AT THE SAME LEVEL AS SACY AND PANCADA. SAADHAK IS AN OUTLIAR IN THIS RESEARCH

SOURCES
https://www.ef.edu/blog/language/why-learn-russian/yway
https://howwidelyspoken.com/how-widely-spoken-english-turkey/
https://howwidelyspoken.com/how-widely-spoken-english-sweden/
https://howwidelyspoken.com/is-engish-widely-spoken-finland/
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https://www.thelocal.fr/20191105/why-the-french-are-getting-a-bit-better-at-speaking-english#:~:text=An%20average%20of%2057.25%20percent,improvement%20is%20likely%20to%20continue.

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sexocum
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on a serious instance though, language barriers are a thing, a clear example is sacy and pancada struggling on sen

#80
dezzo
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Só vi esse post agora, muito bom maninho. Uma pena que tem muito gringo burro “zoando” dos vários notáveis pontos que você escreveu, pelo visto eles preferem continuar na ignorância e na burrice (mais um dia normal para eles).
Esses manos vivem em uma bolha tão grande que esquecem a realidade de outros países/regiões e só abrem a boca pra falar merda.

W

#81
cioccolat
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Teve um cara que comparou meu argumento a dizer que "a situação é de um médico perder o paciente pq o pais tinha um nivel literario baixo".
Sendo que pra você operar fora do seu pais tu precisa fazer 1 a 3 anos de licenciatura

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NneonZz
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i will be reading allat

#83
edgno1fan
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not sure what you're trying to say

sub 30% english literacy means that less than 1 in 3 speak english no?

br and latam speak portuguese or whatever language is prevalent in their country, hence theres no language barrier. nordic countries are very good at speaking english, but sub 30% english literacy is NOT good, especially when everyone speaks different languages natively.

are you trying to say that language barriers don't exist in european teams? because they definitely do...

edit: nevermind, i get your point. yeah, language barriers definitely contribute to why sacy and pancada struggled in sen. it's no surprise when its just the two of them in a clutch that they speak portuguese instead

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