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#1
Mortadelo

So, so far we know Marteen Magnum, and we know Shin might stay too. They were interested in Redgar to be the IGL, if Magnum is signed as an IGL, means they're not getting Redgar anymore, if he's not then it could still be.

Regardless, none of those names are exciting at all. I think to build a roster right you gotta do 1 of 2 things, you either build a roster that is meant to win, or you sign young upcoming players for the future. This sounds like an awful combination of both

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babysasuke
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Bring back relegation

#53
valorant_player
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they'd have tier 2 quaking all season

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SamToYouSir
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CROW TIME BABY

#3
DetonationFocusMeiy
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marteen isnt exciting ?

#6
Mortadelo
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Not really no, heard several VCL coaches said they didn’t understand he pick up because they didn’t like him much in their tryouts, he lacks a lot of things apparently, but he does have the talent.

That being said, he’s a bet, could go right could wrong. That is 1, wtf you doing with the rest.

Basically my point is, be coherent with the project, this team is not gonna win, accept it like TH and do something that will help you win in the future, not this. KC has one of the highest budgets and yet wtf is this

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Engh
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I very rarely write here, but everything you wrote is a complete lie.

#10
redlight
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Sheesh

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Congo1
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own that fraud

#12
ash_knuckles
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damn

#13
alecksdesk
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thats kinda the point of vlr

we spread misinformation on the internet

#18
Mortadelo
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But what kind of missinformation am I spreading, it's an opinion, not information xD

#55
ilovekissingboys
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u litterally just lied how is that an opinion

#56
Mortadelo
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Then again, lied in what exactly, care to quote?

#59
ilovekissingboys
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"Not really no, heard several VCL coaches said they didn’t understand he pick up because they didn’t like him much in their tryouts, he lacks a lot of things apparently, but he does have the talent.

That being said, he’s a bet, could go right could wrong. That is 1, wtf you doing with the rest.

Basically my point is, be coherent with the project, this team is not gonna win, accept it like TH and do something that will help you win in the future, not this. KC has one of the highest budgets and yet wtf is this"

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Mortadelo
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So 2 coaches said that after trying out marteen, so since that's the only intel I have on him I believe he's not a very exciting signing to me.

Where's the lie there? Need a link or something?

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Ultrdon
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blud cant take the L quietly

#72
drownnt
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you literally got owned by a guy named ilovekissingboys, take the L

#66
symbols07
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rare W

#15
shadowvlr
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oh shit

#16
Zoxistyle
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goat reply

#17
Mortadelo
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Care to explain what is a lie? How can an opinion be a lie? Me thinking the project doesn't make sense is a lie?

#20
Zoxistyle
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you literally said :" heard several VCL coaches said they didn’t understand he pick up because they didn’t like him much in their tryouts"

#23
Mortadelo
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Exactly, so it is a lie that I heard them say that? I can link it to you if you want, it's what they fucking said, why would they lie about not liking a player?

#26
Zoxistyle
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link it

#28
Mortadelo
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Here you go but it's a 20 min talk in Spanish https://youtu.be/giFyM0atdu0?t=5734
If you want TDLR, Case coach says he has tried him out this year and didn't like him that much, surprised he has been picked up. As I said above, talents there but lacks stuff. UCAM coach is also surprised, tried him out last year and was not that impressed either, also has been practicing against him all year long.

As you see, not my words, it's their opinion, and a very fair one if you ask me. Hope he proves as all wrong tho, just don't get what Engh means

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Shawnalex11
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How is it an opinion when you state you "heard several VCL coaches said they didn’t understand he pick up because they didn’t like him much in their tryouts", that is you stating a (apparently wrong) fact

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Mortadelo
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That is not a wrong information I have dude, that's what 2 fucking VCL coaches said, I can link it to you but it's in fucking Spanish. they tried him out and did not like him, what's wrong with that?

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Engh
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  1. My big mistake I didnt understand what you were talking about T2.
  2. Then I have 2 counter arguments(real arguments based on my knowledge). I know at least 3 teams from Emea t1(franchise) who have an absolutely opposite opinion and Marteen was a top (1-2) choice for them. I dont wanna sound like a smart ass but I know how many T2 tryouts are conducted and its mostly random with the exception of a couple of organizations that are vying for a spot in the franchise (there arent that many, and you know who they are). And my opinion is based on more than 15+ players(I'm talking about T2 tryouts).
  3. Briefly about budget - not true at all.
  4. Why I decided to answer you because in offseason I like to sit on reddit and VLR(im kamizadze) and read comments. My English is still very pepega and that helps me + sometimes people write really smart things and I love reading. But you always write like you know everything about everyone( ofc not only you) but it so happens that I see you more often than anyone. For all mens who really love Valorant, I can say that 99% of you dont know anything about what happens in the teams and why this or that player is in or not in team. The only thing I promise for everyone who really loves Valorant is to answer all questions about my future team(after announcement), in order to you better understand the processes behind decision making. And please never blame players, they are the ones who are chosen, not them.
#32
Congo1
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sign kadavra bro.

good post btw

#35
nthmarved
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let him cook

#74
crashhacker1
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kadavra cypher actually high tier

#34
nutab1e
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watch out he'll call you mentally ill for calling out his bull💩 xddddddddddd

#37
Mortadelo
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Alright that is much better, and I would love a debate. I also like to practice my English here which is one of the reasons why you probably notice me a lot, because I'm simply here a lot. Let's get to the topic tho.

  1. No problem man, it does honor you to comeback and answer again.

  2. If you tell me there are other tier 1 orgs that wanted him, I do trust you, but you must understand that is information we do not posses, therefore we have to speculate with what we do have, in which some cases yes, it might be wrong, transfer market is complex. We do not have intel on exactly what teams want what players, we're not in the coaches heads so we simply use what we do hear about and sometimes imagine the scenarios. I obviously do not know the guy nor probably have remotely enough knowledge to judge marteen and that is why I used other people's opinions which I believe to be more informed

  3. That is actually the most speculative part of everything I said, then again is not my information it is based on the rumors. But I'll take the blame on that one.

  4. Your English is perfect on the post, I'm sorry if anything I said was an offense. We get a lot of information in the Spanish scene, specially from Lembo and anonimotum, that information is not available to everyone, 1 because not everyone speaks spanish and 2, because not everyone spends the time I do. Which is why I come here and try to let people know that information, which ig sometimes could sound like I invent it or I try to say I have the absolute truth. But then again that is our only way of knowing what's going on. 3 informations 2 right and 1 wrong is more useful than just not knowing anything at all. We probably do over speculate tho

#40
Engh
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I like this type of convo thank u.
ps. sorry for answering harshly sometimes

#41
Mortadelo
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Don't worry I probably earned it, I'm very glad we cleared it out tho. If you ever feel like it feel free to call me out if you do see me say anything wrong again. I really don't mind. I'll try to measure more how I spread information

Best of luck tho, really hope you prove me and my initial point wrong and everything goes great, my opinion doesn't mean I don't wish you guys the best

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symbols07
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i understand your point lil bro. good work

#63
mrGoudas
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What is your opinion on this?

i was having fun at the waterslide when suddenly i noticed a big shadow covering the entire pool i looked up and there i saw him, Ardiis. He was coming straight for me, he jumped into the pool and the velocity of the wave that followed knocked me unconcious.

When i woke up i was chained in a cold and dirty room and there he was, streaming the popular shooter game VALORANT on Twitch while talking to his chat, somehow he managed to say the word "bro" 254 times in just 3 sentences how is that even possible?? I quickly realised that the chains were actually made of chocolate, confused (and mainly hungry) i started licking and sucking them as fast as i could and managed to crawl out of the room -that i presumed was probably his mothers basement- while remaining unseen.

I searched around the house for an exit and i quickly found the front door. As soon as i exited the building i saw a horde of angry Brazilians holding blowtorches and pitchforks chanting at ardiis and calling him a racist and a loser. I didn't really care so i tried to get out of the scene as soon as possible but just as i was about to step out of the house, ardiis put his enormous hand on my shoulder and whispered with a soft and melodic tone in my ear "You're not going anywhere pumpkin pie" and "Daddy's gonna take care of this swifly". He stepped out of the house and suddenly yelled "WATCH THIS" as he flamboyantly dashed into the air and suddenly made 5 knives materialise around him. He used the knives to effortlessly tap every single brazilian in the area.

I was so afraid, blood was spilled everywhere. When it all was over ardiis looked in my direction and i knew that it was over, if they didnt stand a chance, then i wouldnt either, so i just gave up. Ardiis started walkingin my direction each step making the ground shake. When he got to me he just sat down on me saying that i got cold and he needed to warm me up. After a while he took me inside the smelly basement again and took his clothes off. He started smelling me and licking my ear, and then he suddenly got very embarrased and told me i can just leave.

Turns out that this was a huge misunderstanding, this whole time he thought that i was a chocolate egg and he wanted to eat me. The disappointment on his face when he realized the mistake he had done was palpable, a tangible testament to the depth of his sorrow.

#68
FoechiGG
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Nah goudass wilding🗿

#71
mrGoudas
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Why did he not reply to me 😭

#67
symbols07
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holy, engh's english has improved so much. like obv this is written english, but still didnt see any grammatical errors at all

#27
Nitsuya
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GOAT

#29
Capi
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voilà coach dis lui

#43
Birssa
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Exactement

#33
thothgow
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hi engh :)

#54
babysasuke
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kkkkkkkkkk mortadelo fraud

#8
Gqviria
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I normally would agree with you, but then again, EG won champions.

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Congo1
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if they were smart they could still rerun scream & nivera but let magnum igl.

Scream ini
Nivera smokes
magnum sen
marteen duel
kadavra flex

would still be good imo. kicking them was dumb in the first place....

Well tbf its still hard to judge them since they havent done anything yet... But i personally like marteen.

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Mortadelo
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Totally agree with you actually. But I doubt they back up like that

#46
benmaimoon
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You all being hard to my bro cuz engh replied to him. Of course nobody expects engh to criticise marteen harshly. That's just his opinion and honestly he is kinda right about marteen i think. Everyone gonna see who was right about marteen next year.(I hope marteen does well next year, no hate)

#48
Mortadelo
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Ty man, I also hope it goes well, it's just my honest opinion with the info we have. Ig we just have to wait

#49
Congo1
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marteen was like something in japan. Clearly way too good for his league. Whether they work in T1 just as well you never know

#50
Mortadelo
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That is fair. My initial point was something else tho. If that is the plan, why not do something more similar to what TH has done this year, build for the future with more players, not just 1 or 2

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Congo1
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yeah i think KC got some of their first choices snatched away and have to improvise/pivot a bit.

As long as the final roster is good thats okay. Im still patient. Only 2/5 players are locked atp

#47
Valgod
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Yeah if your father lucas rojo says something it must be true

#51
Mortadelo
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"Several" as in more than 1 you know. But anyway if you have tried him out you let me know what you think of him. Until then i'l stick to what the people that have think, and now Engh's info

#77
Lip
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unfortunate take

#4
nutab1e
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whole lotta dookie

#5
dayyaan1
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It’s so adorable seeing EMEA fans get excited over these fodder rosters

#36
thothgow
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EMEA orgs don't have to coerce and contract jail their players to stay with them

They also haven't pissed off their one truly S-Tier IGL forcing him to go to streaming

And they haven't fumbled their three top prospects (the NA orgs were all trialing aspas, tex, saadhak)

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symbols07
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i am more concerned about redgar. did his trial not go well ? what happened. i hope he can find a team and prove himself again this year

#19
patuj
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At least the rumor floating here was that both KC and GIA wants/wanted him. KC offers/offered more, but Redgar likes Giants project more. So Giants Redgar is pretty likely, but not 100% ofc.

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Mortadelo
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I don't think it's a matter of the trial, according to Lembo is a matter of who Redgar chooses

#38
Engh
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according engh this is not true

#39
Mortadelo
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See, that is useful information xD
We have KC version and Giants version. Pretty much a dead end so we have to wait on that one I guess

#44
Congo1
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so engh vs redgar beef is true after all confirmed XD

#45
Mortadelo
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According to Engh no, it's not https://www.vlr.gg/post/2686405/enghh
xD

#69
Congo1
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Issa joke

#30
missing
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magnum is not good this team is destined for failure, mid players

#89
personawake
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:)

#90
babysasuke
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conveniently NA import N4RRATE was not mentioned in the initial "report" by fraudadelo

#42
BoDork
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Engh is one of the few coaches I'd give full control of the kitchen to, let him cook.

#75
crashhacker1
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vlr already did your job of reporting yay, you can rest easy being "funny" not leaking it on twitter. be happy with your new friends inside the club lil bro.

#57
tebadrums
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Mortadelo has no opinion of his own, he just repeats what lucas rojo says in his streams XD, I've already seen how he acts.

#58
Mortadelo
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Tf you talking about xD

#76
nthmarved
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#78
Sir_Johnny123
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Embarassing

#80
Mortadelo
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We knew 3 of the 5 players here and 2 of the 3 were not the carries at all. But I was wrong, that being said don't act like you had them making it out of groups lil bro

#83
kcwhiteknight
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but i understand that you weren't excited for n4rrate, tomaszy, etc, but marteen was cracked in t2 you have to ATLEAST expect a coinflip beast from him like keloqz was

#86
Mortadelo
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On marteen #7

Not really no, heard several VCL coaches said they didn’t understand he pick up because they didn’t like him much in their tryouts, he lacks a lot of things apparently, but he does have the talent.

That being said, he’s a bet, could go right could wrong. That is 1, wtf you doing with the rest.

Yes I was lower than everyone else on him but you won't see me deny his talent and the fact that him turning out like this was a real possibility. But I do no regret what I said. Shin and magnum have been very solid but I do not regret not being high on them it made sense at the time and even now I'd say marteen tomaszy and narrate are who I'm most impressed by

#79
anyr
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

#81
kcwhiteknight
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😂

#82
Conceit
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We have come to retroactively make fun of you for being wrong :3

#85
j3bx5597
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rip bozo

#87
Zerphyr1
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???????????????????aged like milk

#88
LycheeBlade
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This post is a testament to the phrase "trust the process"

Well played, ENGH

#91
Nuhh
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Your whole words is a lie 😂

hiding behind the word "opinion"

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