go on with your "if i speak". i dont give a fuck
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If I speak, I will say that I am your ally amy
may all transphobes get an education and stop being the puppets of their conservative masters
may all transphobes uninstall tiktok/youtube shorts and start reading books to understand the complicated dynamics of gender and sexuality
may all transphobes realize that transitioning is a practice as old as history
may all transphobes realize that 'gender roles' do not exist in nature
may all transphobes realize sexuality is VERY flexible in nature
If I speak, I say that conservative forces have a vested interest in getting uneducated peoples to believe the problem with the world today is the 'trans agenda' when in reality the only agenda is that of a corporate establishment fueling the fire of hate to distract from the rape and pillage of our planet, the enormous wealth inequality in which we all exist, the great insecurity of the future, and the fact that EG has fumbled the ball yet again
that's not what i said tho. there is a very big difference between race and transgenderism.
race is something that you are born with.
you have no capacity to change it.
therefore, all people deserve to be treated equally until proven otherwise (criminal, actions, etc) (just as kids are automatically innocent when they are kids).
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trans people "feel" that they are not what they are " assigned" at birth
that makes no sense, because you were born with it.
its all confusion, you will never be a man, just as i will never be a woman, im not trying to hate or be a transphobe, im just trying telling you how it is, everyone beyond this reasoning is just cope.
moving past that, i realise i may have been harsh in the past, but i have always clarified that trans people deserved to be treated the same as human beings - the bare minimum, but at the same time, I reserve the right to not accept your definition, because i simply do not believe that you are what you say you are. in the most respectful way, i hope you can have some introspection, i truly believe that yyou are confused and have led to be confused by the media, and am sorry that the people around you enabled this behaviour, i have nothing but empathy that if i was struggling with my identity, that i could be this vulnerable and have been in this situation. hope that clarifies things.
(this is what i was going to reply to you in the other thread)
a. i did not get indoctrinated by any media, I have known since i was 7.
b. even if you aren't born with it, there are still things you arent born with that you treat, like cancer.
c.If treatment to gender dysphoria has helped people mentally, and physically, why are you against it?
d. even if according to you, "trans women are not women", is there no utilitarian gain for treating them as women. Imagine a fully transitioned person, it would just be very messy and awkard to misgender them on purpose, imagine someone like hunter schafer being called a man.
a. how do you know that? could you not attest this to confirmation bias? im sure you had conflicting thoughts and once you made the decision, you dismissed those "negative" thoughts altogether. just assuming tho.
b. cancer kills, being confident in your own skin does not, not sure why we are comparing.
its not a treatment. its avoiding the problem. they will forever feel that they are not "technically" women, instead of accepting, learning and growing into their own skin, loving themselves the way they are.
d. people are different, some people look feminine and some don't. this doesnt excuse the fact that they were born a certain way. imagine that person with a beard. hunter just took hrt to look less like that.
If gender-affirming care is not a treatment, what is? Gender-affirming care solves every issue caused by gender dysphoria, with a far higher success rate than almost every other medical procedure. When one has gender dysphoria, the only effective and scientifically proven treatment is gender affirming care, and to deny that is to deny science.
how do you know that you havent been indoctrinated by the media to hate trans people. transphobes (conservatives): have been doing this shit for fucking centuries, spewing toxic nonsense that people like you buy. imagine reading a 90s article about a senator saying some homophobic shit or so racist shit and compare that to literally any outspoken transphobe today.
"HRT does nothing" vs "trans ppl suicidal lol" Okay. most sensible transphobe argument
"avoiding the problem" most trans people just want to be happy. people literally get plastic surgery to get make themselves feel better. people go on certain diets to gain muscle mass or lose weight.
why does that matter? is it too much to ask for people to be who they want to be? is it really worth going out of your way to make people uncomfortable? if trans people make you uncomfortable idk what to tell you.
Reply to your previous ignorant justification of "I don't agree with"
Please elaborate.. what don't you agree with?
Do you not agree with the scientifically proven fact that someone's brain chemical compound consistently gives signals to the owner of said brain that they're not the gender that they were assigned at birth based on sex?
Do you not agree with their synapse flows?
Do you not agree with the major depressive disorder that the person is usually diagnosed with while trying to fight the signals from the brain and act as nothing is happening?
Do you not agree with the fact that there's different variations of cerebral chemical compounds, and therefore everyone is and should be simply the same, in order to match a "normality" meter arbitrarily created?
Or in reality you simply don't agree with things that you do not care to study and understand?
You don't need to mention racism, it goes without saying.
The thought process is the equivalent of saying "I don't agree with the fact that people from arabian penunisula have the necessary brain to function in a normal society, because their anatomy is different than mine" Just because I say "I don't agree with" does not make it not racist.
While the above statement might have some technical truths in it (yes, there's usually a different anatomy structure based on continental origins), it simply ignores a bunch of other scientifically defines truth in order to reach a "different view". And yes, you can call it a different view. That different view is simply defined by racisms. Much like your different view is simply defined by transphobia
there is a very big difference between race and transgenderism.
race is something that you are born with.
you have no capacity to change it.
You're wrong here as well... race is not something that you are born with, you're simply assigned one, much like a gender. Race is a social construct, much like gender.
Don't confuse ethnicity with race, nor sex with gender.
The only race that we can be born with is homo sapiens, we're all this race and genus. Everything else is just things that people tell you that you are.
yes. I hope someone can respond with a better argument, I am recognising my own shortcoming in the topic but in no way am I dismissing it. there are multiple sides for everything, you cannot argue with this fact: there are disputes within the scientific community, and this is one of them. I'm not a psychiatrist or doctor, nor did i claim to be.
using the fact its a disputed topic in the scientific community is not a great argument as people still argue about the effectiveness of vaccines (MMR specifically) & if they cause autism because of one discredited paper, you could read thousands of papers from reputable sources and all it takes is one to say otherwise and the people who were always against it and won't change their opinion to latch onto it.
Like there's dispute on man made climate change in the "science community" sure it's like 1 guy with a degree in neuroscience arguing against meteorologists but it exists. Also science changes it's like the beautiful thing about science and medicine we update it when it's proven wrong you know like when ppl find out that allowing transitions lowers suicides we give them treatments they need.
I think the most interesting part is the cause of transgenderism. I think given this study its reasonable to say that a large portion of the gynephile population has gender dysphoria caused by autogynephilia
thats such an extreme reach its not even funny.
ah never mind. you arent worth interacting with. transphobe.
This is the same thing that was performed in the past by ignorant ppl in regards to homosexual awareness. "Don't tell children about gay people because they'll become gay". We're simply repeating history
It's an advanced level of stupidity that unfortunately reached "normality" rates in some cultures, therefore they see it as "their truth/different view"
Sadly, intelligence and common sense are... not that common.
its not commom you mean, stupid ass mf. thats why we call them, and other groups, minorities. not normal is being against something that affects literally 0 in your life and come in a vlr forum to spread disinformation about it, while many trans people are dying just because they exist.
and actually you can have schizophrenia, but theres triggers to it
While biological sex is something you are born with, gender is a societal concept that is assumed to be the one associated with your biological sex. When someone says they are assigned x at birth, they are simply talking about gender. If gender were biological, there would be no need to raise boys to be men or raise girls to be women, because they would naturally become men and women on their own.
you saying that most LGBT people in India are intersex people which I highly doubt is true and you don't even live in India so how would u know? You are also saying most Indian parents would abandon their child if they are intersex which I highly doubt it is true for the majority of indian parents but keep pulling this info from ur ass. Also your reply to #117 was irrelevant as he was talking about how they are dangerous on the road and you reply and talk to him about why they are LGBT which is not what he was talking about.
lol I have seen it first hand in India a family close to us were expecting a child and all of a sudden there were no talks after the delivery day and they said that it was death at birth, while a lot claimed a group of Kinnars taking away a baby. I asked my parents and they did say it happens. yeah maybe this gen parents will not do it(which is excellent) but if you are Indian like me you will know how foolish half the people are
you said that you felt like a woman since you was 7, and to your 7 yo brain, what was a woman?(the thing you indentified yourself to?) I get that you may liked to play with dolls and wear pink/dresses(the steriotypical stuff) but those behaviors doesnt make you a girl, they make you a boy that like pink/dresses and play with dolls, did you wanted to be a mom, breast feed, did you wanted a husband?.
Just feel like thers soo much experience women go thru that your 7 year old brain couldnt understand, like periods and all that comes with it, how society in general treats you/expects you to behave, girls friend groups and all of its dynamics. All im asking is about your expectations and how did it feel once ppl treated you as a woman for the first time(if that even happened yet), did you had any surprises or misconceptions about womanhood?
im sorry you get so much hate on here. ngl the transphobia on here can sometimes make vlr a bitch to go on even as a cis man lol. just remember that there are many more people who support/are neutral on trans people than that hate you. hopefully as time goes on yall will continue to be more and more accepted like gay people :)
IF I SPEAK.........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
IF I SPEAK.
all humans deserve to be respected as a human
but not all viewpoints and ideology should be accepted by everyone.
being trans is a viewpoint of oneself, so although I think trans ppl should be treated same and respected like other humans, other people have rights to reject whatever gender one decides upon that is not biological
- All people must be treated equally.
- Understand some people and emotional and physical problems that can cause them to seek change
- People have the right to do what they want with their body ( may differ in different regions), but no one questions the tribal people.
My only issue is with telling kids about sex(copulation) and sexuality at a very young age as this propaganda has brought more negative than positive to what the minority fights for. i am of the belief that you should teach children to not hate anyone for their looks, race, sex, attire, or community. and let them figure out everything when they become adults or at least 15+.
I will never treat you bad I just don't like some of the things that people have been doing seems like a promotion rather than a revolution.
hope you don't find it offensive
if i speak...
then I will say that people can do whatever they want with their bodies so long as it does not affect me and that it is always better to judge people by the content of their character rather than stuff like gender. You seem like a great person judging by ur post history, so my opinion of you is also great. Don't let anyone drag you down for being who you are :)
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