man mce is the fucking goat bro
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RIP. Wishing oxy and the rest of his fam well ❤️
but also kinda agree with your original point the reason NA tier two has been so good is because NA had about (maybe even a little more) the same talent as EU at the time, but got half the teams. If you took players 26-50 who made EMEA tier one rosters in tier two, EU tier two would also seem a lot better. IMO EMEA tier two in a few years will be producing way more good players (yall have 2x the player base and tbh their is no passion in the NA playerbase anymore)
Sen was ass in 23 and none of EG, LOUD, or NRG were looking unbeatable going into champs (also remember that was the year kru went on a run). EG was mid at best going into tokyo. That 23 m80 team would have made an international that year (outside of lockin ofc). 24 would have been a lot less likely as m80 looked relatively worse imo that year + only slot i think they would have had a decent chance at was the 4th champs slot
erm... what happened here guys
sen was mid last year but zekken was still clearly him. imo if there was an americas redraft im taking him no worse than 5th (probably 3rd)
mibr, g2, nrg, lev, and sen are clearly better rosters then you have 100t, eg, c9, and maybe kru if you believe in them
for some reason some people did... even with full roster this team is 8th-11th in americas lol
aspas and zekken has to be the best one two punch in val history to not play for fnatic
Id imagine its slightly higher than the games avg so maybe like gold 3 or something like that? (Assuming you arent counting people that dont play the game)
i might be biased because americas, but i had doug as my 3rd fav play by play guy minimum
nah now that ender is doing most of the play by play they aren't bad. certainly wouldnt have them casting an international top 4 but def good enough for domestic and group stage play
yeah the avg fan i dont think understands how much the meta and map pool determines who are the best teams in the world especially in years (like last year) where this changes multiple times during the year. and ngl it kinda sucks when every tournament winner is a big underdog like this year
i think its probably still growing slightly, but not by much and more spread out than it was 10 yrs ago
realistically none because i dont want the work but ignoring that either a fishtank with a southern appalachian ecosystem (Cyprinella trichoistia and Percina palmaris my beloveds); darters, shiners, crayfish, freshwater snails, etc. but obviously none of those are dangerous and assuming you avoid certain protected species also not illegal
Are you calling or is theia going to?
Its weird how they went from universally loved as the guard to gaining haters so quickly in g2. Id imagine the slow play style in 24 + beating sen a bunch just led to the hate reaching critical mass and now kind of no matter what they do people will find a reason to hate on them
Fuck man doug and balla were my fav casting duo… this sucks
zekken was actually carrying sen so hard this year, especially the first half of the year
i had to look this up cuz thats an insane stat and its true as long as you dont count https://www.vlr.gg/1270/sentinels-vs-cloud9-pax-arena-invitational-tournament-gf/?game=all&tab=overview
Yeah idk why people hate the 100t fanbase, i've never had a problem with them. It aint yalls fault that you support a bum ass team
true, but isnt riot trying to downsize the amount of teams in franchising? and for americas the obvious teams to remove on the performance side of things are EG, furia, and loud but i doubt riot would remove 2/3 of brazils teams and have the league so skewed to NA so it would have to be like EG, furia, and c9. Then you have to consider that they would have to beat out g2 for the spot too. Unless the rumors about downsizing are just about not having ascension teams competing in t1 in which case you can just remove furia and EG for G2 and SR.
edit: also g2 might try to get an EMEA spot so that would make it very easy for SR to fit
My family has a 14 yr old dog and he doesn't have much time left :( Its gonna suck especially because I can hardly remember life before him, but im glad hes gotten to live a good life and is still doing relatively well
why would you not play yoru and chamber. yoru/scan ini/smoke/viper/chamber will be busted until yoru nerf
how is comparing him to the goat disrespecting nerve
Other rosters have improved too. But having 100t like 5th/6th/7th is reasonable imo. I wouldnt put them above G2 NRG MIBR or LEV although its possible one of them under perform (imo would likely be lev or nrg). 100T EG SEN C9 looks like the middle class to me with KRU NV FUR LOUD at the bottom
Lowkey you might be cooking here. Perhaps hes deathly afraid of flying?
tex>inspire (with nerfed cypher) and i think you could argue tex is about as good as a couple others on here, but yeah cryo, cortez, neon, lukxo, less, and babybay def clear
I mean its fun to hate on him, but realistically if mibr meshes well together he will be like a middle of the road americas player. perhaps higher if he gets on the chamber a bunch
i would say of this list bstrdd, daiki, dodonut, noia are valid (likely still bad t1 players, but also would have a chance to not be like a bottom 3 player) Jelly, meL, srn, and bizerra however would def be terrible in t1 as of right now however could be at a lower half t2 level. Realistically there is like 10 teams itw that are even relevant practice for t1/t2 playing against however so its extremely rare for a gc player to jump to t1. There is probably like 20-30 or so gc players that could hold their own in t2, but they are almost all clearly worse than the players on salaried t2 teams so it would be dumb for them to leave their team unfortunately.
damn 6 kills away from being right. also srg's attack side calling was so ass this event. terrible space control (although noia having a rough game + generally not being a great lurker is a large part of that)
TL 3-2 SRG
sarahcat most kills
Dont worry im here to blame cryo. Such an overrated player (hasnt been more than an above average player since franchised started). At least asuna provides value outside of frags
from playing with oxy and n4rrate to ragebaiting on vlr… what happened to my goat
getting outfragged by coach jovi 🥀
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