fr all the sen fans crying when they could've been in a different group if they just werent so shit is hilarious

sen and fpx were never getting out of groups?

they werent making it out of any other group anyways...

fair but most of americas isnt competitive internationally anyways. to clarify i also mean split 2 100t. That shit was atrocious...

this level of delusion needs to be studied

you lost to 100t thats not an L any competitive team would ever hold

sen and fpx were never making playoffs. if you cant even beat 100t you arent an internationally competitive team

🤷‍♂️ feel free to put stock into vlr stars not my loss

thanks for proving my point <3

yes literally a 33% chance nothing crazy like your corny ass wants it to be

someone doesnt understand how seeding works

any of them. In ranked your enjoyment of the game will likely lead to you putting in more time/improving faster than any "optimal" strategy ever will.

yeah this level of delusion is impossible to argue with

you think fnc is winning? opinion = useless

-fns

Nothing funnier than seeing a bunch of dudes cry when taylor swift is brought up 🤣

if you arent a nats hater it just means you're stupid

This is not the website to be on. Go to an actual PC forum. Even the people who do know what they're talking about somewhat here will know far less than an actual enthusiast. 95% of the comments you'll get is people confidently talking out their ass here.

because he and his team are ass...

FPX is better than most of Pacific lmfao. stfu with ur dumass.

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In 2024 EMEA has 4 different teams that have gotten to the top - KC (Kickoff and Madrid), TH (Shanghai), FNC (stage 1 playoffs), and FUT (group stage record). These top teams have lost many games to the other teams, including TH losing to VITALITY and BBL, FUT losing to VITALITY, FNC losing to NAVI, and KC losing to NAVI. KOI GX TL M8 have also grabbed many maps and NAVI have also looked like a top 3 team at one point.

Churn =/= a region not being top heavy. Having a bunch of shit teams beating each other doesnt mean much.

https://www.vlr.gg/event/2094/champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2 || https://www.vlr.gg/event/2005/champions-tour-2024-pacific-stage-2 If you look at these records and somehow think that PACIFIC is less top heavy than EMEA, you are either fucking blind or have shit math lmao.

see above. all youve "proven" is that the majority of emea is around the same level. Given their international results this year (getting grouped in madrid and a single non emea/china win other than TH in shang hai) that doesnt mean much. A bunch of shit teams trading losses does not make a region not "top heavy" the 2-10th EMEA teams have consistently shown they are not competitive unlike pacifc this year.

Finally, have you been watching PACIFIC matches recently? Because I have and that TALON vs DRX game was a disaster. Where the fuck were Talon's fundamentals? Ban and Governor throwing rounds left and right. Talon somehow beat most teams in the region like how bad is the rest of the region compared to GENG and PRX.

have you been watching EMEA this year? or any year? blindness is a serious medical condition seek help.

wow the brainrot...

I love how you brought up 2023 in a discussion about 2024 because of how wrong you are.

PACIFIC if we do not include the best team in 4/5 franchising international events so far

like... brother can you read?

AT BEST in 2024 its 50/50. But if you spent any time actually watching a single group split it'd be clear emea is by far the most top heavy region. It is sad that T1 qualed to shang hai via 1 game thats a huge flaw in the current playoffs system since they're probably the 5/6th best pacific team behind geng prx drx talon and rrq.

also the fact you had to gas up FPX to make FUT seem like a better team is hilarious i hadn't seen that level of cope before it was fun to read.

I said an incredibly mild comment to you and then responded with a bait comment when you said something dumb. you got pissed and blew up i guess some people arent meant for the internet 🤷‍♂️

I'd rather be a dick that an idiot who constantly needs to have their opinion be the popular one.

oh you think im mad? i was joking about your brain being missing but oh well 💀

I guess this is just you proving once again you lack eyes and a brain. oh well good luck with that.

lets look at this year: Madrid both EMEA teams get grouped Pacific 2nd & 3rd Shang Hai Pacific wins and gets 5-6 with one team getting grouped.

Shang Hai: EMEA gets 2 teams through groups via the help of 3 chinese matches. In playoffs the only team to beat a non emea team was TH.

So thats emea tournament 1- 0 team region, tournament 2- 1 team region.

Lets look at americas SEN win Madrid LOUD in 4th. 100t in 4th G2 in 3rd at Shang Hai and lev gets grouped. Now by placement that would objectively make EMEA the most top heavy. Americas would be 1st in that placement but IMO the level of inconsistency the high-placing teams have shown makes them 2nd behind the consistent top dogs... pacific.

U dont watch valorant i guess 🤷‍♂️

He's talking about champions 2023 lmao

as am i. guess you're one of the ones without eyes or a brain...

bro u dont gotta get on vlr to defend boaster's honor this shits pathetic

if you expected 100t to win the event then i see how your level of brain damage could construe it into being surprising that the 2nd place team from the last event won the next event...

no one with eyes or a brain thought FNC would take everything

sentinel - nats

when will they learn...

You're being biased that shit was just like any other masters.

Pacific is top heavy

*emea

out of all the regions pacific is the least top heavy. It would be americas if the 4-6th teams didnt continuously find ways to reach new lows each week

correction its not just chet's fault

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have to be good to fall off

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when will u kids learn not to take the bait

copium at its finest

you're :)

or just pick up an actual viper player not an NA t2 reject

If he said he was fine playing viper but couldn't actually play the agent that's his fault... I'd expect my players not to lie to me as a coach

damn baiter got baited

welp ill leave things here it seems you needed to go to europe for some proper schooling america clearly failed you

brother do you not understand what a rate is? the double down is crazy

school shooting rate

i guess in america they dont teach you the basics of english. or statistics. probably not science either. or math. or maybe ur just dumb

american education at work

dont question an americans religious devotion to defending guns they'll have a mental breakdown

they were chill. they became instantly obnoxious after the 2nd TH win

cry is free

the answer is any americas or emea fanbase which has made it to a major. They all suck.