m3c core | VLR.gg

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Nats, chroincle, sheydos. We all knew how insane these 3 were in 2021 But this mfs did not qualify for single event in 2022. LIKE HOW??????????

Lets see the Stats

Sheydos C1 : 1.21 rating and 1.45 KD. C2 1.03 rating and 1.05 KD. LCQ 1.19 rating and 1.28 KD. he was in top 5 in terms of stats in all 3 reginal events.

Nats c1 : 1.10 rating. C2 1.09 and lcq with 1.23. Overall top 5 in reginal too

chroincle basically has same stats as Nats too

Wtf went wrong with m3c How you dont qualify to single events while having your 3 players in Top 5 reginal stats

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sheahhhh

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trash 5th, they call it the zombs syndrome
guild core had same problem

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chick

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One bad player does not make your team lose games

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??

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sheahhhh

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shroud begs to differ

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it literally does man, a team is made out of 5 players as long as your 5 play better than the other team during teh matches you win, and thats exactly what happened, m3c were 4vs5 and redgar wasnt even fragging that much considering he is igl.

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fnatic with enzo beg to differ

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He was actually fragging in challengers

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ortuh

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gets rid of mistic and enzo and immediately becomes the best team in the world, if the core is so good the extra players shouldnt matter?

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W of the day: sheahhhh

Guild supporter W

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They were very very good against bad teams and were on the level but just not good enough to beat the best 3 teams and get to a LAN. They had inflated stats because they played a lot of games against worse teams and succeeded, but in important games they looked a lot worse.

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i disagree you might wanna check the games

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eeeeeeeee

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Tbf they were 1 series away from qualifying each time.

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Yessirskiiii

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Sheydos still one of the most underrated players. He actually has one of the best aims i've seen in Val

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zardinez

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Fr he's known as a robot for a reason

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Yessirskiiii

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Mans been doing furiousss aim routine

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tradedos

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Wtf went wrong with m3c How you dont qualify to single events while having your 3 players in Top 5 reginal stats

cuz they not letting me play ofc

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yoyoyo

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maybe Redgar's IGLing is a problem
Dont wanna say this since he is such a nice guy

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i feel this too,

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This. I like Redgar and want him to succeed, but at times it felt like M3C's biggest weakness was their calling. I still remember that one Ascent game where they were forcing the same strat over and over again failing everytime.

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that ascent vs FPX in challengers 2 where they kept forcing mid splits on attack?

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patuj

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yeah likely that it was Ascent attack and were doing some mid splits if I'm not wrong. Even PlatChat mentioned of it afterwards.

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Number_1_Sheydos_Fan

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ye they kept rushing market, i was watching that game at the time and i was wtfing so hard at my screen

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The war killed the team

A F/A team same caliber players playing against org backed players will lose 8/10

They still had 4 masters qualifying games that year
Also the meta was shit for their team ngl. Roles were torn apart etc etc

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They got super unlucky, that’s it. 0.02 seconds away from master Reykjavik, 2-1 lost to FPX and lost to Godmode Scream and Jamppi

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couldnt keep up with the meta.
the war really halted what they built up in 2021.
d3ffo wasnt a top tier duelist.
got very unlucky in all fairness, should made atleast 1 lan that year.
and maybe redgars hold on the game started to slip away.

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d3ffo had pretty bad back problems if i remember correctly, affected him a lot

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war, meta doesnt suit them, just plain unlucky with spike defuses.

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ry666

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unlucky honestly they consistently choke one match away before qualifying

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Yessirskiiii

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Why did Scream have to drop one of the all time performances against M3C in LCQ man...

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its a scream specialty

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Mortadelo

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They were 1 map away from becoming the first ever team to win 2 consecutive trophies. Nothing went wrong with them, they just fell off with time, sometimes people need changes

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Mortadelo u watched the TL vs M3C series? In my biased opinion (scream one my all time favs), absolutely one of the greatest individual performances i've seen in Valorant. Was rooting for M3C tho so it sucked

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If TL is playing against other EMEA teams I have always rooted against them. Not my style. I thought M3C would have done better at Champs. Just wish Guild didn’t have the problem with Twisten and they could have had a fair fight. I’m pretty sure they would have qualified

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Yup same. They don't play like an EU team at all (before Redgar). Now that my favourite player (NaTs) is on the team, they're my go to team to root for when NAVI arent playing. Also i don't know if i worded the last post a bit poorly but i was just trying to hype up Scream's individual performance! Not TL itself

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I think Scream is a great rifler, but I honestly wouldn’t sign him, he is not good as a flex, has to play duelist. Raze eh, Jett no Op, only Reyna, Pheonix and few other agents which are just too big of a deal to fit on a team. If he doesn’t play some very specific agents I don’t think he is that special tbh. And I’m sorry but I don’t but the IGL thing

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Yes i agree man, but im just talking about his series vs M3C in LCQ

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Mortadelo

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Oh yeah it was really good

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d33fo Perfomance became shit
Redgar igling also a questionable part

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war in russia fucked them over

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There were 0.02s away from qualifying to Masters 2022 and 2nd place for LCQ. They had no org and war was happening, they did better than any team could have in that situation.

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2022 meta change fucked their roles
5th player cycle between 3 diff guys
Came 4th everytime in europe losing chances to go to FNC, FPX, and TL.
Free Agent team due to the war

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They were 0.02 seconds away from qualifying to iceland also chamber meta was very bad for them

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because they were always the 4th team in the region, a little worse to qualify

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Don't forget the traumatic war that's still going on

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D3ffo is the answer