dont nobody gaf about "aspiss bad" or "chron goat"
if you don't have a real hot take, just make some shit up
for example:
the current NRG roster(including their time with s0m) was never the best itw
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fluked is the wrong term, but they definitely built their roster to be competitive early rather than later. They have a bunch of solid, high-floor players but the potential is limited. If 100T, LEV, possibly even SEN or EG figure it out then they have way more potential, but they also have a lower floor
100 thieves sneak in, lev and maybe sentinels can figure stuff out and furia are going to be competitive early and late
i kinda disagree, they definitely have a lot of potential if alym, koalanoob and eeiu are on point
Exactly. But i do think they fluked. They faced everyone at a low point for the first seed and won by just being the more stable team. Kru had a entire sub squad, Sen lost their starplayer and had rookies, G2 had a weird meta and role thing goin on, and MIBR had low practice. Every single one was going against the meta too. When they faced organized teams on masters, they got exposed very quickly. That aint sticking much for the next few months
if u think facing 2 super strong teams at masters is "exposed" then i guess, they faced the team who got 2nd at the event and a team that shouldve beaten the world champions, they got a map on paper rex and were super close to beating BBL, and u cant say mibr had low practice, they beat NRG who are one of the most disciplined and organized teams, if u think they had low practice just cause they are a new team you could say the same about furia
...you do know by the time they faced furia MIBR scrimmed for less than a month because aspas had a heart surgery while Furia was scrimming for 3 months straight + playing offseasons right? lol
they beat NRG because Zekken went ballistic on yoru and NRG was drunk af on the split comp we all know they weren't supposed to win that
zekken also performed on yoru against furia but they still lost, who cares we will see once stage 1 actually starts
we knew this
FNC was the best squad when NRG won champs, NRG just got lucky with 2 map bans (FNC had an off-day during the upper final)
NRG cleared FNC twice and had an easier fight vs them than the other teams but sure whatever floats your boat. Off day cope is not valid when you can say that about literally any team that loses
nrg BARELY won their games, i feel like saying fnc had an off day is pretty valid considering how the upper final went
FNC barely won their games as well btw, 1-10 comeback vs DRX, 1-9 vs PRX needing a chronicle life game to carry them over the line. I could say that their opponents had an off day but that’s just not how it works
Not an off-day if boaster is -43 across both finals, thats just typical boaster
i mean this is true but like neither is emea lmao
apac is showing incredible form and whenever they slip up an americas team can luck out against whoever they match up against in gf
EMEA will win again at least by next year, they'll improve enough
We've seen China in-game for 3 years now, competing at international events and they're still as bad as they were 3 years ago. I cannot comprehend how EDG won Champs
they were up against heretics who were in the process of making a name for themselves as generational chokers
ok i know i asked for hot takes but this is is just straight misinformation
imo DRX showed their best form oat as an entire org at champs, but they still weren't the best team, that's why they lost so bad to fnc
"lost convincingly to NRG twice"
FNC almost pulled the greatest comeback of all time out of their ass, yes they lost the tournament 13-5 but don't forget how we got to map 5
They got swept on three of the maps they lost, it’s not some scorching hot take to say that they had an easier time vs FNC x2 than against DRX, MIBR or EDG.
You cannot say NRG was not the best team itw when they beat the finalists twice and the third place in groups where Flashback was in his prime
They beat Liquid twice, G2, PRX, and MIBR. They only lost to FNC by the end because, unlike NRG, they cooled off as the tourney went on. Their first game against NRG was lost because of two map chokes, and they lost to FNC because map veto. Most impressive run for sure
MIBR looked mediocre in Kickoff
They only beat NV and needed a zekken nuke performance on Yoru to beat NRG's worst form we've literally ever seen from this iteration, before losing 3 BO5's in a row
I don't expect them to make London and I imagine some form of roster overhaul after not making it
G2 and NRG I expect to remain leagues above them, I think KRU have a way better roster, I think Furia could retain their form and stay above them, if LEV stop playing so passive (something which Onur attributed to player nerves more than anything) then I think they'll be better, 100T I think have a better roster. Honestly I think MIBR are gonna have teams like C9 and SEN giving them runs for their money in this upcoming split
Better IGL, generational talent Less, young exciting players in Dantedeu5 (who granted underperformed in his rookie season but that's because he had to play second fiddle to keznit) and silentzz. The only question mark is mwzera but I still remember him being a cracked initiator in 2023 and with Skye back in meta it might be his time once again
Saadhak is currently Not a better IGL than Verno
Dantedeus and Silentzz have potential but they are big question marks and NOT. better than Zekken and Aspas lmfao are you kidding
Mwzera was never better than Mazino or Verno lol he was only really good for two games in 23
Kru loses in literally every comparative that doesnt involve Less and i think their squad is good lol
Saadhak got trolled by ENGH terrorism last year
Trust, he's gonna call circles around Verno
Make that bum wish he never punched FNS
Brother Saadhak havent been good since aspas left him
I believe he can come back and i hope so but lets be real here hes on a insane decline rn
Dante is really not that exciting, he was very underwhelming in his debut last year. Other then KRU I do mostly agree with your point though, this MIBR roster isn't gonna be shit.
To be fair that kru roster was a complete shitshow so he does deserve a second shot
I'm willing to give Dante some grace because of the messiness of that KRU roster
They brought him in to play at the same time with keznit who was historically always the superstar who called the shots and had all the resources put into his game, as well as the same time as an IGL change where they just decided to get rid of adverso for honestly no good reason
I still think there's a world we see AK Dante in tier 1 if Saadhak is able to bring the most out of him
IMO FNS and Saadhak are better IGLs than Boaster, may be slightly, just didnt get lucky with the team. If they had the fnatic team in their hands, they would have produced better results.
Esports region domination is fraudulent either other regions just don't care about the esport, their region has better interest/investment than everyone else (kinda means the same thing but still) or just has an advantage in some way e.g extra slots
boaster is the most overrated igl of all time. you could put any half-baked igl in that 2023 roster and they win the same amount of trophies (if not champs too).
Demon1 was the best player we have ever seen and if the 2023 EG didnt disband we would had a dynasty.
MIBR G2 and ENVY will be make it to London while Nrg lose in the group stages
TH is the best team to make multiple grand finals and not win any championships at their best form
Gang we're the ONLY team to make multiple grand finals and not have won any of them don't do this to me 😭
I don't get the genghis hate
Oh wait, wrong topic, I mean keiko is a big meanie
Bro gonna stick by his take of glazing the biggest rapist in history
Bro
I changed long before
I don't support genghis anymore, if i did, it was just a joke
https://www.vlr.gg/post/6373292/is-this-the-most-dominant-gf-ever
tied for the second highest win rate with geng shanghai but i’m supposed to believe they weren’t the best team itw
Dambi is not the best duelist itw, and NS is not the best team itw
NS is in fact the best team itw currently, saying otherwise is like saying EG were the best team itw after tokyo
I believe with all my heart some teams (the ones with titles) hide strats for more important events. Also, I think their Neon judge strat just worked out because teams weren't ready for it. I'd be willing to bet most teams will be able to counter them in London
I'm not saying NS is bad, I just don't think they're the best itw yet
Champs
and btw, I'm talking about Fnatic. do you REALLY think they're just bad now?
i know for a fact that you are just baiting🥰, just like i know for a fact that every team would go all out to win any vct trophy
saving strats for champs which is in half a year + guaranteed to have a different meta + guaranteed to have a different map pool is funny but cheap bait man, you can do better
it is not bait, but sure, keep believing Fnatic is suddenly trash now
funny how you'd rather believe your team is bad than consider the possibility of them trying to hide they strats (not agent strats, not map strats, I'm talking about in-game executions, hitting sites, lurking, which combos work...) for CHAMPIONS, the ONLY EVENT FNATIC HASN'T WON YET
not being good enough to qualify doesn’t mean they are hiding strats (+ how is that even possible when the meta and map pool is constantly changing?)
Teams were ready for their neon judge strat for the past few games and yet they stood victorious which proves that there’s more to the team than just dambi with a shotgun. They had great protocols, attack rounds and anti eco conversions which takes time and effort to perfect. NS walked away with 10 points and only need to win a few games to qualify for champions, I’d say that’s quite important during this season where competition is at an all time high, some of the other teams with international titles have a LOT to catchup on. Sounds like to me you are just looking down on Nongshim’s win when they’ve clearly proven that they were the best team in the world at Kickoff and especially Santiago. Obviously things can change in Stage 1 which we haven’t even started yet, but as it stands they are the best team itw and thinking otherwise is just delusion, mind you they are yet to lose a series.
how do you know they just "weren't good enough"? how do you know teams were ready for Nongshim's strat? and how can "things change in stage 1" if Nongshim has "clearly proven they're the best team in the world"? the best team in the world wouldn't start losing all of a sudden two weeks after winning a Masters. if that happens, then it would just prove my point: teams were not ready for their strat, some teams were hiding better strats (example: NRG lost to BUMbr once and was about to get 3-0'd be them, then they just did a reverse sweep and went to Santiago. do you really think it's not possible they were not trying their best to hide their actual gameplay, but after realizing they wouldn't qualify, they started using everything they had?), AND NS is NOT the best team in the world
time will tell
Dambi is the best Neon itw but not the best duelist. Also agree on the Nongshim point. We can simultaneously say that Nongshim is an amazing team (I'd personally put them in the top 5 not exactly sure where) while still acknowledging that they got an incredibly favorable meta for the team they have
who else are you going to put 1st, surely not the team that got 3-0’d in the finals right? that same team who slammed all the americas teams
I would put PRX at 1, I think they would have won this tournament had the best Neon player in the world on an unbelievably good Neon patch skullfkd them. I think Nongshim is the best team itw on this meta, but won't be going forward
I’d argue that francis was just as big of a threat if not more than Dambi. And it’s not like this meta only favors NS, it also favors PRX and pacific teams in general who’s played double duelist comps throughout the reason. That’s why you saw PRX comfortably handle teams like G2 and FURIA
madrid one could make a case but rejkavic they were the clear best team lmao
Sen will be a bottom feeder team this whole season placing 9th -12th split 1 and split 2
NRG will qual for both London and Shanghai
Furia regresses but still quals for playoffs but not for London
KRU will qual for an international (London or Shanghai)
MIBR will not qual for London
Envy bombs out and implodes mid split
C9 choke in playoffs
G2 blows up end of the year only keeping Valyn and JoshRTz (+ maybe Leaf or Trent)
LEV becomes the new gatekeeper team of Americas
LOUD quals for playoffs and shocks MiBR or Lev in playoffs
KRU COPIUM x10000
i like where you’re headed although they will come second and DRX will win the trophy instead
As a TYLOO believer (I think they can make an international) this is based af
Potter is actually a fraudulent coach and EG only looked good because the valorant being played in 2023 was very poor and had demon1 and jawgemo to carry her.
2024 FPX could have made top 4 at that years champs and only got grouped because they were in the hardest possible group made for them
-) TL winning london if purpo plays decent
-)PRX is the most overrated team and have the most overrated players in his roster itw. They shouldn't even make finals but always someone playing life games and bring their wins.
An insane take would be C9 finally waking up.
A real hot take is T1 not making it to playoffs.
China will prove themselves as a force after split 1.
CN will experience the biggest org diff we'll ever see during this season. AG, Tyloo, and BLG have been running circles around everyone else in the off-season due to the depth of each of their academy systems (AG & BLG) and willingness to build for the long-term (TYL). China isn't a contest for who has the best team now, it's currently a race for who has the most competent management and coaching staff by Shanghai.
Another:
BLG grabbing Muggle will develop to be the best staff change in the whole league. People are still downplaying his competency, but imo what we've seen out of Bilibili so far is just the tip of the iceberg for how he can bring out player form. They've already figured out what they needed role-wise after bringing in Yilai, and the only thing they need now is time. I believe they'll be on a different level internationally this season compared to when they were under Bail
if pANcada and Sacy stayed with LOUD they would be the undisputed greatest team of all time and the top5 greatest players of all time. fuck sentinels
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