Well if the usual players who keep qualifying to internationals constantly never change even while suffering from extreme embarrassment then maybe the rookies and newer talents might wake up and realize that there's something bigger going on. I agree that the culture needs to change, but it is never going to even in a million years if we keep letting these terrorists have jobs in tier 1 when they keep providing disappointing results. I fully believe CN tier 1 needs a full wipe and restart in order to progress anywhere near fast enough to catch up in the next few years

key word there is "shuffling". Tyloo and JDG both did unbelievably shit but at least they got to where they were through investing into prominent tier 2 talents throughout the year and making things interesting. I would rather the teams try to actually bring in new blood that can grow instead of incorporating the same players into their cores that have been playing in the top of China for the last 4 fucking years now.

You see I would normally agree if it wasn't for the fact that it's the usual suspects that keep qualifying to these internationals. Deadass if the points system didn't exist we might've gotten NOVA and BLG which at least would've been more exciting entirely due to the fact that they would've been new this season. There's legitimately nothing else to do atp other than shake up the current crop of talent and eject the old guard. That's the only thing that hasn't been fully tried yet since over half the orgs are scared to promote anyone who isn't a new Glacier or an import.

There will HOPEFULLY be major roster overhauls for every single team in the region. Even after the disaster of 2025 over half the teams kept the majority of their cores intact going into the next year. Now that it's hit rock bottom, surely these orgs will realize that they need to invest into young talent full-scale to prop up the next generation of players... right?

sword9 went against the wishes of management while management also simultaneously withdrew previous promises of his share of the champs money due to him going against their instructions. he went from being a streamer for them to completely getting sacked because he tried to insert himself onto the team again after not working with them for almost a whole split.

they have the best core in all of China to improve from this year. hopefully they develop these pieces and don't let the results outweigh the potential of the roster

had a good setup on C mound just to fall apart after splash solo-slides into 3 fucking people holding LET'S GOOOOOO what a beautiful way to end that map

going from playing confident and decisive to finish off Summit to wandering around dry walking into angles on attack-side. just save us the time atp i can't take it anymore we are SHIT

Their defense setups are wholly dependent on the individuals winning their one's or getting kills in circumstances where they're playing into an attacking stack. This is something that nearly all CN teams share, with the sole exceptions probably being 2024 Champs EDG and Trace. Even with the increasingly skilled and mechanically talented playerbase filtering into tier 1 over the last 2 seasons, it doesn't fix the fact that defensive fundamentals are still lacking and stuck in the pre-franchising era.

It's probably because the general attitude in CN is still mechanics >>> all, and the strats from top-to-bottom still reflect that. They'd get more results imo if they played more psychopathic and crazy, but they're still keeping up the pretense of "proper valorant" which is shooting them in the foot since the other international teams just run them over once they download what they're actually doing.

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hmmm. the way you type is ringing off similar alarm bells. I think you're LYING

are you fucking whzyglazer?

i miss playing splatoon 1. game was hella broken its whole release looool

might be an airball but does anyone here play it? lowk curious

that clip alone should radicalize the new generation of aspiring chinese valorant talent enough to SWEAR on their LIVES that they'll NEVER get into that position. it should serve as the lowest point VCTCN has ever allowed itself to freefall into

ANY ACTUAL CN FAN HAS BEEN SELF AWARE FOR A BILLION YEARS NOW. WE HOPED THINGS WOULD'VE CHANGED WITH TIME BUT IT EVIDENTLY FUCKING HASN'T. THESE ORGS NEED TO BE RAZED TO THE GROUND

go to bilibili stream, translate live comments, and enjoy. it's insane

GIVE US 2 FUCKING SLOTS. NUKE IT. JUST FUCKING NUKE IT. I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE. MAYBE IF THERE'S LESS REPRESENTATION THEN THEY'LL BE PRESSURED TO IMPROVE MORE. I FUCKING CAN'T ANYMORE

i've seen a decent amount of stuff in the bilibili chat saying similar things like even Chinese netizens are angry asl. ts is inexcusable

atp it's entirely a management issue because there's no way with this much individual player talent and money they can't invest into systems that yield success. if CN does terrible again (which is looking likely) then there needs to be some serious internal restructuring in every single team

i mean 2024 was their first year as a partnered region + EDG was the only team with any real consistent international experience so it wasn't that crazy (also FPX's ruin in Shanghai was pretty great in group stage). every other point after that though has no excuse.

at least in 2024 there were 3 teams all at once when Champs came around that contributed in some way. Ever since then it's been the EDG show + Wolves that one time in Toronto that seriously carried the torch of CN's reputation internationally. It's been 2 whole years

Ever since EDG won their trophy every year has worsened as time's continued. CN's highest placement is EDG AGAIN and they look ass in champs for a 2nd time. How does it get this embarrassing?

idk how it got so fucking crazy. in London people were saying that XLG were flukers and then everyone started pretending to be Tyloo fans out of nowhere 😭

it's what we deserve as an audience for sitting through 2 one-sided maps + tech pauses

i assumed that was the case, but how all of this is allowed to happen in Shanghai of all places is insane. RIOT need serious questioning

G2 desperately contacting RIOT's production team to kick a PC every round to delay their series so they can complete the blood letting ritual to look anemic enough to blame being sick on losing again

if what i said is indeed the case it might be some weird bureaucracy bullshit. it would be funny though if Tencent just took a step back and wanted to watch RIOT shit itself

Tencent directly runs production of VCT CN afaik. RIOT's in charge of this champs which probably means different software & client details

T1 probs

The game evolved and the teams he's been apart of have misused the shit out of him to a degree that made it impossible to get full value out of his gameplay. His career went ass-backwards because NRG built their superteam with elmers glue and duct tape and his stock has been stuck in a weird place ever since

The lights were too bright for BLG. There's nothing else to speculate because their downfall was abrupt and was insulting to how they played in stage 2. TYLOO's only problem is that Scales might shit the bed when he's running through smokes on a random timing in mid. TYLOO is probably the best team (with the sole exception of 2024 EDG) in CN's history mechanically, and hypnotizing's contributions to their playbook is unparalleled in the region for how drilled it's made them.

TYLOO might underperform, but with how much they got going for them it's unlikely. Hell, BLG's downfall was incredibly out of left field even when looking at their Toronto performance

when he's gotten some of the highest skill kills in the game's history? Being able to hit sprint mid-air rope climbing headshots while fully flashed takes impeccable aim, gamesense, and miracles from god. Who would say that god's chosen one doesn't deserve praise? Terrible people, that's who

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people would still post some stupid shit. actually I'ma bookmark this post in case the hypothetical happens because I 100% believe it would be the most common bait to see after it occurs

a lot of people would claim that it'd be the worst year in valorant history. people could barely handle XLG making it out of groups in London. their minds would implode if (and when) CN actually catches up and consistently performs, nevermind actually starts winning shit 🤣🤣

I agree cuz it's a pretty open and shut matter. Both of them went on their own way

It's pretty fucked up how they promised him prize pool earnings and salary renegotiation just to walk back on them, but ultimately the job of the management is to manage the whole team. They identified him as a threat to the team's future performance and cohesion, and they abruptly terminated all pretenses of good faith once they thought he stepped out of line. It's fucked up but that's just how they do their jobs, and looking at it objectively as long as they don't breach their own contractual obligations they can do as they see fit. Pretty confident he'll be able to find another team though, as his previous accomplishments should make him a sought after figure.

Yeah he fucked a lot of opportunities up. Like sure he doesn't have complete context of some things in the moment and it's understandable why he'd be threatened but to assume the worst and not calm down before contacting management was a massive shot in the foot.

So Sword9 and the team had differing visions and he timed his exit strategy extremely poorly? Unfortunate situation for him but Tyloo are completely understandable in this scenario.

Unfortunately it's TIME to have this conversation 🥀

most banger combinations possible but that's the worst case scenario for CN, so on YOUR life this DOESN'T happen

"BRING ME BRAWK! BRING ME KEIKO!" - Erv

considering Bail's track record with his team absolutely selling him i sure hope JDG do

I disagree with AG, since they were pretty much falling apart near the end of their tenure in stage 2. I have more faith in JDG keeping their white-hot form going than AG buffing out their clunky teamwork. AG was in a weird spot going into playoffs that wouldn't have been fixed imo

haven't been this hyped going into an international in a long time. As a China fan even 2024 was mostly a hindsight experience after EDG and Trace started revving up their engines. This event has a fuck ton of prestige going into it due to the high quality of teams across the board. So exciting

the one-sided favorability makes this fun to watch

Every top seed looks strong. New names and orgs entering the upper echelon. China's not looking complete dogass. Every region has decent depth. Region wars aside, it looks like anyone can make a mark here.

non-vct and held during offseason sooooo

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