is valorant esports over

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so MIBR proved u can just fucking p2w like team falcons and immediately become favorites to win everything

fml

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king_bob
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g2 demon1 will destroy this universe

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funny thing is I actually prefer this than mibr

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twigster001
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who would they even drop

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Divine_Thunder
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BEI BI BEI

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CrackedDuelist
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are the details of zekken buyout even reported? you can't just say they are p2w

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yes I fucking can

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CrackedDuelist
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cry

#14
delighted
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no source lmfao

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CrackedDuelist
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where's your source?

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sheep esports

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CrackedDuelist
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link

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https://x.com/i/status/1981297107568119940

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CrackedDuelist
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lmao, where is the p2w part you are claiming it to be

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read the article

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cozylotus
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His contract ended with sen, what buyout?

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CrackedDuelist
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didn't know that, also this strengthens my argument of mibr not being p2w even more

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💀

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TentacleThing
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I mean Furia's proving the opposite though with teamwork and vibes over expensive star players

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Lyxium
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Let's see if they can get a trophy this year first (unlike f0lc0ns)

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for me I think both can get a trophy this year

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If it was true, VIT 2025 , NRG 2024 could've done the same. Stop with the hate

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I'm not hating lmao I'm js trying to say that MIBR still paid a shit ton of money js to win games despite them having team chemistry

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vitality literally busted this myth last year so hard it wasnt funny. lots of money for good talent helps a bunch, but need some level of chemistry and cohesion for it to matter, mibr didnt jus throw the bag they got great players who had great synergy and worked together well and then slotted zekken in

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they still paid a fuck ton of money tho

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prope1
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correct but the money alone isnt why theyre winning rn

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but it is a huge factor as to why they are winning, I never said it was the only reason they're winning

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This is just not true lmao SEN offered more money than MIBR for Zekken, he ended up choosing MIBR because he wanted to play with Aspas. Also MIBR is a pretty example for p2w cuz there were literally rumors early on in the offseason that Aspas might leave because he got higher offers iirc. It just ended up this way because these 5 players committed to this project

If anything isn't a team like 2025 VIT more p2w lmfao

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is there any source for that

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Diffractiongrating
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Ok I found it, it was a rocket bulletstweet idk how valid this is anymore lmfaoooooo```

But yeah Rocket implied that MIBR offered less, and Zekken opted for the chance to play with Aspas leaving money on the table

But it is rocketbullets so like :P

I'm too lazy to dig up the tweet itself but it's here in the tacticalrab video around ~11mins
https://youtu.be/v6-ggkPjQyQ?si=61G4LJ11nJopcyJ5

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idt MIBR offered significantly less money, only a small difference from s0n tbh

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Yeah that's probably true.

idk I just find it weird to call MIBR a p2w team when they really only have best in position in arguably one role going into this year. Obviously there's a lot of talent, but to call a team with Mazino and Tex (who are really good players but not considered superstars) p2w feels kinda wrong. There were definitely better players on the table that if MIBR had more funds they could've gotten like Less/Leaf instead of Tex

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lmao G2 are NOT letting go of leaf

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Diffractiongrating
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No this was like a thing that G2 was exploring I'm pretty sure, G2 almost broke apart in the offseason until it didn't

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how

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Cheasle2
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Mibr p2w is ethical tho

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yea ik but overall competition will go down

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Arm4jay
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better than nepotism

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both are bad

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V0sotros
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dude valorant has always had teams that can pay infinitely more than everyone else

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no but this is the closest thing to falcons bc MIBR are undefeated rn + the fact they look better than the top 3 teams from other regions

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goatsterfnc
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aren't NRG's sponsors US Army???

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FUSaitama
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they probably dont pay as much as you think they pay

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yeah but idt anyone will mention it bc of politics

#33
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bruv NRG have MULTIPLE esports divisions

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x_knowitall39_x
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they picked up mazino and tex and u call them p2w, falcons wouldve had sacy out of retirement in 3 seconds

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mazino is good bro

#29
x_knowitall39_x
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teams arent fighting over mazino bro, if mibr didnt get him I honestly doubt any other team would

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LEV
LOUD
FURIA

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Ryandr
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Ig league esports has been dead for a long time then. This happens in almost every esports lol. Also doesn't mean mibr is bound to win every event now. Val is insanely competitive and random. Anything can happen except for team secret doing well.

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I think this year will be the exception tbh bc Americas looks top heavy

#45
itsauproblematp
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atleast they winning unlike team shitcret aka team nepotism lmaoooo

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?

#47
Luceus
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saying this as furia in finals too

#48
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hydrogen bomb vs tug of war merchants

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hydrogen bomb is furia btw

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💔

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Just because TS is shit doesnt mean it's over bro, Furia, GE, NS, FS, TYLOO, BBL, M8 theyre all underdogs in this story all regions just become so stacked all previous top team now is not dominating again we could see new face new era it's very GOOD sign for valorant esport

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🤣

#53
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I mean the only thing u can do is just wait 2027 partnership and hope ur org replaced with new management and everything

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I trust in TS

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supporting nepo is crazy work

#59
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I want TS to get new management
I don't want the org to be replaced

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Nah i don't think it be that easy remember that this management is not even fired for years they blackmailed TS owner fs idk

#64
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well hopefully that isn't the case this year

#66
BerLINglazer
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if i have infinite money and bribe riot to make an international league with unlimited imports and form gazillion dollar contract with florescent BerLIN suygetsu then maybe it will be over but now no

#67
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interesting

#71
DrudaL
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no, teams like prx and fnc exist, they build strong core from 0

#73
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atp I'd rather kms then watch emea win again or MIBR winning smth or PRX actually being good with statpadvy

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twigster001
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watch furia then
good team built from the ground up
hungry players that want to prove themselves
good team chemistry and good vibes all around

#78
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only hope left for me

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FS and GE are great choices asw

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twigster001
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fs has a shit ton of annoying fans so i can't support them even tho i was campaigning for them to get talon's spot for a while
ge is a good shout but they have tough competition coming up

#75
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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I mean vitality did the same thing in 25 with derke and less

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it's different tho

#79
twigster001
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they flopped for the most part because they couldn't commit to a team

#84
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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With respect to kickoff they're basically having the same performance as MIBR

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twigster001
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with respect to anything past kickoff MiBR will diff the hell out of them

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That remains to be seen

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