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|Registered:||July 20, 2020|
|Last post:||June 28, 2022 at 5:29 AM|
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Order > PRX
they were lagging and thats why they lost
SO? if your chamber doesn't play well congrats ur 4v5 because he has 0 util. It's exactly the same as a Reyna but people look past that because if he wins a round its super flashy but if he loses a game nobody can see that it was the chamber's fault.
His strengths are explicit, his weaknesses are never highlighted, and thus, people forget about them.
i worded it completely fine, downvotes don't mean shit.
do i have to dumb it down for you holy shit
i think chamber is just a little too strong
the community thinks chamber is utterly broken
notice the difference? THIS i the reasoning why i think he is overrated - he isn't as strong as people think.
do you understand now? Or are you going to purposefully misunderstand me for the 4th time?
Conky and Komodo are literally the best casters in APAC. The only pair who doesn't get Insta muted.
Thank god they're casting finals, will be hype af.
people think he is the second coming of christ when he is fucking lacking in flank watching and retaking when compared to every other agent in the game.
in my opinion, people rate chamber much more highly than he is deserving.
fucking NA moron forgets that someone needs to have a different opinion for something to be overrated
i rly be counting his bullets while i ping him for 6 damage across the map every jiggle peak
?? that is the literal definition of overrated ??
yes I do, Chamber is rated too highly.
therefore, he is overrated.
Chamber is insanely overrated. If he received a TP nerf, he would be completely balanced, perhaps even on the weaker side.
replying to the bait = taking the hook.
This juicy fish took the bait hook, line and sinker.
only good APAC talent are the Aussie casters. Everyone else is an instant mute.
Especially the analysts. It is brain numbing listening to them do nothing but list meaningless stats and repeat the same dumb takes over and over and over for the first hour of a stream. Not to mention how obvious it is they haven't watched a single vod of ANY of the teams they're analyzing. It's pathetic
have you ever interacted with a TenZ fan?
unfortunately, TenZ would have closer to 20k followers if his fans followed twitter terms and conditions! (no accounts below the age of 13)
"run a train" on someone is slang for having rough sex, or in a competitive setting, winning convincingly.
how the hell is that in any way close to death threats and racism?
yeah i realise this, i guess its just a culture diff.
i'll just move on from it.
We have <10% of the population of pretty much any other region. We can trash talk if we want. At least aren't sending death threats and attacking people's races like some other regions.
This is on a whole other level than what wronksi did, which was harmless banter and a throwaway comment on his stream.
This isnt even trash talk anymore, Fl1ps just an asshole.
"very arrogant and cocky as fuck"
literally describing 70% of the entire global pro scene, but because its OCE ur pissed
except they are racist.
could've taken the dub with respect, but really? this is disgusting.
We just troll, SA sends death threat off cooldown.
pretty much a OCE superteam + they've only been getting better with time.
We'll see in the PRX match soon, but if they win it, they could be a big masters contender.
who cares about those boring matches when Order vs PRX is on
Ah yes, the player who averaged nearly 400 acs every time she subbed for a GC team, why pick her up?
"stronger" doesn't mean auto win.
FW had a very strong offense comp as well.
don't have to 😎
haven't heard that one before!
i think you're undermining their existence.
nah meL is still the IGL, she made an april fools joke that jazzy was igling.
It should be Icebox
won't be Breeze or Fracture since they are the newest releases
Doubt it will be Haven, Ascent since they are generally the most popular
Split and Bind could use some minor changes but they're both fine.
Icebox has so many flaws right now. Not only are comps very stagnant (Viper, Sage and Sova almost every comp)
mid is completely baron outside of lurks, since there are far too many angles for attackers to clear to even consider pushing it.
both sites are so problematically designed that most teams will Sage wall off as much of the site as possible and plant on a sliver of space left over, which is extremely unhealthy for the quality of the game.
not to mention, the map is very unpopular amongst the community.
I reckon Riot take out Icebox and give it a big overhaul. rework mid so it's actually approachable, and rework the sites so that attacker don't (and aren't forced to) sage wall off a tiny sliver of space for the plant.
I'm sick of this stupid argument so I basically wrote this essay to clear things up.
Chamber is not a duelist - he is a sentinel, he simply does his job in a way that is contrary to other sentinels.
All 4 sentinels, (Chamber, KJ, Cypher and Sage) are incredibly strong defensive picks, that can stop pushes solo, and are incredibly powerful when guarding their territory, they struggle; however, when adventuring outside of their territory (Cypher/Killjoy leaving setup, Chamber when leaving TP radius and Sage when having to play offensively (all of her utility struggles when attempting to take space). This is consistent across all sentinels, and is unique to them (and Viper, who is a Controller/Sentinel hybrid as stated by riot themselves).
Where people often get confused with Chamber is his proficiency in getting kills, especially first bloods. While this was historically not a sentinel thing to do (prior to his release), it is not reason to see Chamber as a duelist. Duelists, as stated by riot, "seek out engagements first". Chamber (by himself) has no utility to seek out engagements. No flashes, drones, information gathering, or mobility. His only "mobility" tool is his roundezvous, which can only allow him to retreat. (no possibility of entrying, unlike a Jett, Neon, Raze, Yoru, Reyna or Phoenix, who all have some sort of tool to engage a fight and break through into space. His other abilities, while kill oriented, are designed that way because to do his job (lock down space), he needs to get kills. Unlike Cypher, KJ and Sage, who can shut down an entire push without getting a single kill, Chamber's kit is designed that he must be taking engagements and getting kills to achieve the same site holding potential. His rondezvous, headhunter, and tour de force are all designed to allow him to 1. take an early fight to get info/pick, like a camera or turret. 2. slow down attackers, like a slorb, swarm grenade or cyber cage and 3. incentivize chamber to play within his territory, like a barrier orb, KJ passive, or trapwire.
to clear up even more confusion, and to hopefully stop any future arguments about agent roles; there is a simple way you can tell what an agent's role is by the way they interact with SPACE
Controllers define the space (split up the map, what parts of the map do you want to claim? what parts do you want the opponent to stay in?)
Initiators weaken the space (study and observe the space you want to weaken, without entering it. weaken the defenders of the space with utility to create openings for attack)
Duelists invade the space (enter the space as fast as possible and during the window of highest threat. quickly claim space for your team to allow them to follow you in)
Sentinels defend the space (hold down and weaken attackers when they attempt to claim your space, retain information on space your team already owns)
As you can see, there are lots of different ways to, define, weaken, invade and defend space, but at the end of the day, the agents in those roles will be best suited for doing that job, even if it may be in a much more unique style than other agents of that class.
TLDR; Chamber whole kit about defending his territory, no initiation tools (unlike duelists), kills/FB =/= duelist.
Main reason I argue this is because of the power Valorant's community holds over the decisions riot makes, and the community constantly complaining and making comparisons between chamber and duelists could disincentivize them from creating interesting twists on the already existing roles.