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overrated tier 1 pros

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#1
laifu

can be from mid table to consistently making internationals to furia

my overrated pros are Filu and mindfreak

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31Raven
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narrate

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glittering_yard
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Chronicle

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Froxe
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Don’t disrespect the goat just cuz he got poached

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WE only lost Champions because he got absolutely mogged by Ethan in the biggest support diff of all time

Ethan played with 3 rookies while IGL'ing and won them that game on Sunset

Meanwhile ghostnicle was invisible in the server as always while getting carried by the only rookie in our team, this guy is NOT the goat

#74
CringeMeister
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Bro is fake fn0t0c fan

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glittering_yard
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And what do YOU know about the greatest bestest team of all time??? I've been here since day 1 when we were getting dog walked by TenZ back in the day

Im a real one.

#75
1d
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youre right aspas is the goat kkkkkkk

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Rakooon
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Leo

#5
E1ijah
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cned, was really good, but fell off quite a bit, prob mid tier emea duelist level now

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number7_cNed_fan
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😢

#6
catNmouse
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TH Comeback

#76
Linardinssssss
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Take your words back

#7
natalieeeee
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ZmjjKK

#31
OwenCOA
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no one has rlly talked about him for the past 6 months

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poiuu20
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Meiy

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Wolfed
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Ethan is overrated by people who think hes the goat and by king bob

#56
king_bob
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⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

#79
CringeMeister
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Nc ragebait

#81
CringeMeister
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Nc ragebait

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JonahPork
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Jawgemo, only consistently highly rated duelist that doesn’t consistently perform. Hoping he turned a new leaf after this RBHG event cuz he was looking really fucking good

Also kaajak, it pains me when I see people actually talk like he’s better than Derke

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Disastered
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am i crazy or was kaajak's 25 not insane

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JonahPork
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Performance wise it was similar to an average year for Derke. The reason kaajak was in BITW talks was entirely because other players who played better at several points in the year like aspas, forsaken, alfajer, and trent all had points where they played really badly. So it was just a matter of consistency.

I can confidently say there wasn’t one point in the year where kaajak was the best player itw

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Disastered
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best ace

#28
serot
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kaajak is better than derke

#30
JonahPork
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Why tho

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serot
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derke is a good player dont get me wrong but kaajak is just so mechanically good that he can just snowball the game himself if he gets going

kaajak is probably the undisputed best player in pistol rounds, which are arguably the most important rounds to win because they build momentum and usually result in next round conversion

#40
JonahPork
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I can agree that kaajak is the best pistol player, but derke is the best entry and that’s more impactful over the course of an entire map.

Ngl id be more inclined to say kaajak if fnatic’s pistol winrate was actually really good, but it isn’t

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serot
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derke is not even close to the best entry, his FK FD rates on attack aren't good or consistent at all, and I think kaajak probably clears him in that department
he is for sure a consistent player, but he also has a lower ceiling performance wise imo

kaajak's only major period of inconsistency was at the start of the year as he was adjusting
he has performed very well in big games this year

FNC pistol winrate is a team issue not a kaajak issue

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laifu
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he's miles ahead of derke mechanically, and has taken over games for fnatic purely by just outaiming everyone

sure he choked 2/3 grand finals this year but he's a rookie and he popped tf off in champs

#42
JonahPork
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His better mechanics don’t actually convert to fragging any better than Derke

#43
laifu
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if your going against players like aspas it def matters

#44
JonahPork
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It’s actually great that you pointed that out bc kaajak didn’t match up against aspas any better than Derke did

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Froxe
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Both are insane

#11
emea_is_poo_poo
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aspas, leo, chron, alfa, narrate, zekken, mazino

#22
poiuu20
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dont forget meiy and dep too

#23
emea_is_poo_poo
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DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW!!!! >:C

#24
poiuu20
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i willl delete if you delete your acc

#26
emea_is_poo_poo
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i am the MOST

handsome, elegant, intelligent, charming, kind, thoughtful, strong, courageous, creative, brilliant, gentle, humble, generous, passionate, wise, funny, loyal, dependable, graceful, radiant, calm, confident, warm, compassionate, witty, adventurous, respectful, sincere, magnetic, bold, articulate, empathetic, inspiring, honest, patient, powerful, attentive, uplifting, classy, friendly, reliable, ambitious, intuitive, talented, supportive, grounded, determined, charismatic, extraordinary, trustworthy, noble, dignified, perceptive, innovative, refined, considerate, balanced, open-minded, composed, imaginative, mindful, optimistic, virtuous, noble-hearted, well-spoken, quick-witted, deep, philosophical, fearless, affectionate, expressive, emotionally intelligent, resourceful.

My exodus would be a loss for all of vlr

#32
poiuu20
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genious and wise doesnt go along with DFM flair so i know all this is nothing but lie

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ChickenAsparagus
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leaf

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hellfire
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primmie

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PP12123213123
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mada

#18
catNmouse
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underrated if anything

#20
PP12123213123
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udotan > mada

#21
catNmouse
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no

#25
PP12123213123
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Mada isn’t even good enough to play for GE

#15
uwukitten
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do people even know what overrated means anymore? ain't nobody rating filu

#16
sw4gman
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crynicle and baityocells

#29
MrHyphon
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Karon

#33
OwenCOA
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brawk Verno N4RRATE

#34
twigster001
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who in the world is saying filu is good

#37
PP12123213123
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me

#69
twigster001
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i fear you could be incorrect

#35
satellite_kov
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HOW IS FILU OVERRATED EVERYONE THINKS HES SHIT

#50
Tempest24
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everyone knows hes shit

#55
satellite_kov
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i dont think hes that bad he was just in koi jail, derke would look like mwzera in koi jail

#70
twigster001
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STATS

mwzera https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/VK%20mwzera%234324/overview?playlist=competitive&season=all
cNed https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/ACE%20cNed%23carry/overview?season=all
TenZ https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/SEN%20TenZ%230505/overview?playlist=competitive&season=all

DEATHMATCH STATS
mwzera - 86% win rate (thats the insaniest thing ive seen in a while)
cNed - stats not availiable
TenZ - 73% win rate

RANKED STATS
mwzera - 66.3% winrate (MVP of 95% of the matches) proof here https://imgur.com/StiJmpg
cNed - 53.5% winrate (MVP of 13% of the matches)
TenZ - 60.4% winrate (MVP of 15% of the matches)

can you take your time to appreciate how insane mwzera is? without a doubt the most talented player to ever touch the game

I'll try to explain briefly why I think he is the best player in the world
Despite his insane aim and movement
The best way to know if a player is a good duelist is RAZE. There is a BIG difference between a good duelist and a jett abuser
If he is a good duelist, he needs to be good with raze.

heat? not good with raze
aspas? not good with raze
xand? not good with raze
tenz? not good with raze
cned? not good with raze
scream? not good with raze
d3ffo? not good with raze
derke? not good with raze

Thats why I think he is undoubtely the best player in the world. If RIOT by any means decides to nerf jett and shift the meta we prolly not gonna even hear names like cned and tenz again :>
He is not killing 40+ per map because when he joined VK he was forced to play a different role because heat is already a main jett... and lets be honest, every single duelist nowadays gets 20+ kills per map because team and setups are basically built around you (even steel managed to get 20 kills with it https://www.vlr.gg/29398/sentinels-vs-100-thieves-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-playoffs-gf/?game=46692&tab=overview)

#39
mondely
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mindfreak ain’t overrated. rn he is overhated tbh

#41
poiuu20
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are you deadahh serious? why?

#45
1One1
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This post

#47
poiuu20
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i get the overhated part he is def overrated too

#54
mondely
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have u seen how teams are not picking him up? so many people calling him overrated to the point he is underrated

#46
1One1
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Flor

#48
poiuu20
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basically meiy in emea so i agree

#62
sw4gman
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meiy played full seasons worth of vct, floretirement is a bum who gave up on her team

#63
poiuu20
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Ngl I agree that flor is a bum and a fraud who gave up

#64
1One1
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"basically"

there no such thing as basically or any analogy

#51
vzbxbfj818
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Saadhak & comeback

#52
Re2
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who even rates filu bro?

#53
KishiMishiVT
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Meiy, Comeback, Brawk

#77
Linardinssssss
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No

#57
m0rtem
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f0rs0ken
th0ngg
p00pm0n
d4vd
s0mthing

#58
koromast
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some people will tryna kill me for this one but bang

#59
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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I can see it

#60
koromast
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bro when bang joined sen a lot of people acted as if he was prime marved or mako, he is aight but he wasnt even an upgrade to tenz imo

#61
laifu
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bang on SEN: i sleep
bang on 100T: clutch god

high chance he will bounce back next season

#65
koromast
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he cooked lev with aspas on a clutch, won vct stage 1 they got a decent placement on masters falling short on top 4 and then he was never the same ever since

#66
UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe
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Statpas

#68
antikapasiki
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demon1
derke
mada
xeus
asuna

#80
toidinami
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Yay
Demon1
Trent
Babybay
Sayonara

#82
zoro77ll
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primmie

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