Is America the worst region rn??
I agree with the part that china is closing gap but.im pretty sure bottom feeder chinese team "might" own the bottom feeders of na
I doubt so though. Sentinels alone defeated all 3 chinese teams and 2G,Loud and Lev leveled up a bit with the new rookies. Furia however is still ass
do you watch china? genuinely the gap is not that big like AG would smack up furia rn
Yes but C9 or KC for example would probably just win China right now and they are not close to the best team in their region
They wouldnt win at all. They would do well, but def not win. XLG, FPX, and DRG would do very well against them if not win, and dont even get started on EDG when they arent having a shit day
you guys were hot ass at toronto and EWC except for Wolves who also crashed and burned again in china.
For some reason in this site shiting on EMEA is the norm but you have to praise China thats been ASS all year
cuz EMEA hasnt won a trophy in a while and looked like the worst region until Toronto and EWC where they redeemed themselves. Also after EDG's champs run, its hard not to praise China especially considering their teams were formed 2 years after everyone else
emea has looked better than amer overall all fucking year
your countries just have more English speaking audience
and americans in particular LOVE perceived punching down instead of up. Brainwashed to from a young age.
always putting people down instead of trying to improve
explains the mess of the US
they werent at toronto. also, in EWC, BLG almost beat them if it werent for levius and whzy having a stinker last map.
if BLG almost beat them, imagine what EDG, FPX, or XLG would do to them.
BLG is chinas second seed. Their first, XLG, has completely crashed internationally. Their third seed, wolves, who were good in toronto also crashed and burned in china now. Using BLG as a benchmark seems perfectly reasonable
Also KC is in such great form they nearly beat FNC...
EDG, FPX, XLG are nothing right now. Where is this confidence coming from?
XLG crashed because they picked up a non-english speaking sub for YOU which messed up the comms with rarga. And the duelist initiator comms are pretty damn important.
EDG are just practicing with zjc, they looked mid when s1mon first joined too.
FPX are just doing good and have good players and shooters
you are just choosing to believe in the best case scenarios as if even half of those would happen. If i did that EMEA would have 8 champs winning teams
If it was best case scenarios, APAC would have won every trophy since franchising
Credit where credit is due, China has some insane aimers and they are one of the more creative regions when it comes to comps and strats. Their growth is evident since they always have at least one team putting in a shift to surprise others at internationals. I would have to agree with angel98 in that China is generally still behind as APAC and EMEA have multiple strong contenders that push for Top 4. Americas feels like a 2-team region with G2 and SEN crushing it. MIBR and KRU have got superstars on their teams, but they don't seem to have the depth that G2 and SEN have.
I would say that at the moment, APAC is on top since they have had 2 trophy winners and GENG is still relatively strong. EMEA is close second since FNATIC are reaching peak form whilst TL and TH are starting to get a lot better with time. Americas third especially since G2 have lost Leaf and SEN are good, but not near their 2024 peak. Lastly China because EDG have fallen off a cliff without S1mon, but there are other solid contenders coming out the woodwork for their own Cinderella run. Despite this, it seems Chinese teams are heavily inconsistent as seen with Wolves getting cooked in region now.
Last APAC trophy - 2025 Toronto
Last China trophy - 2024 Champs
Last AMER trophy - 2024 Madrid
Last MEMEA trophy - 2023 Tokyo
so no it’s still EMEA and it’s not close
thk you they seem to not understand and live in 2023 where a jawgemo could 1V3 while crouch spraying when holding the site...
Buddy its u who shouldnt be talking about anything when ur flair is dinosaur age 💀
This is coming from the guy that made a thread called “Americas are so shit”.
EWC doesn't count ??? (FNATIC VS TH: it's a trophy)
And if we talk about being in finals in 2024 beside sen in madrid AMERICA was ASS and this year only G2...
EMEA was in finals in toronto, in champs 2024, in shangai,
Bro I'm sorry to tell you that but beside G2 at the start of the year and considering how dogshit they look rn and sen not being that good also america is cooked, and from what we've seen from EMEA with new player this stage those EMEA teams are becomming good, and we have some that we know are insane (bbl th fnc)
China won't do shit...
Apac : Only GENG could do something at champs if they don't throw like they do :( (which is heartbreaking) /PRX probably too tired but they are insane
I'm sorry rn but america teams doesn't look good at all, we had sen and G2 but from rn with old meta they are dogshit sorry to say that to you ...
Ewc doesnt count. Half of the prx guys were burnt tf out after winning toronto. In their vlog you can see davai talking about taking a long break. Ewc was mickey as hell and nothing you say can change my mind
"my favorite team got shit on because they were tired therefore the tournament must be mickey mouse!"
its americas, china bottom teams are all looking good and evolved freaking ag and tyloo would easily beat furia and 2g
those other chinese teams would still beat American teams, I watch all regions and yesterdays performance was horrid
how do we know they would? china is consistently the worst region internationally regardless of how “good” they look regionally
bro your team came 4th in toronto while cn came 3rd and that team wasnt even the best team in the region, and also in the past three international china came top 3
okay and toronto is the only event in history where americas placed outside of top 3, and even then americas had two teams in the top 6 while cn had one
regional strength doesn’t matter, china outside of edg hardly ever gets it done and, from what it looks like, the wolves run was a zeta run
keep coping, you know how yesterday fiasco was and currently americas is the worst
by teams better than them in region
yet they made top 3 toronto
this is not good for amer
runs like this have happened in the past (zeta)
besides, how can cn be better if we just didn’t lose to them? wasn’t the whole gimmick around toronto that americas were china farmers
being able to beat exclusively one region is worse than having an ordinary chance vs all of them
APAC > emea > amer > china
Only FPX can save China with edg and wolves looking bad rn. If FPX get top2 finish and America only relevant team G2 don’t do good, it’s so over for Americas. They might just have to create their own separate valorant circuit and call themselves world champions by winning that like what they do in the NBA
ppl thought that EMEA was the worst region until 2 of them fought in EWC grand finals.
now we are back to China.
We will see.
I only care abt EG making champs if it is possible
I am a Team Heretics fan (Los ninos!)
I think right now its APAC = EMEA > AMER > CN
I think people are coping if they think China is above Americas. They have the weakest top 2/3 and would imagine that being the case for rest of the teams as well.
I think CN teams are all mid right now but still better than the bottom table teams of the other regions. Ex. Tyloo would not stand a chance in any other region but wouldn't come last.
ch0na probs overall worst region but shitmericass is just a full region of mids
KRU LOUD C9 100T look better than some teams in APAC and China for sure, don't know what everyone's fussing about.
New meta, new map, different game.