what do you think isnt a fluke then

ngl I literally forgot he was on XLG

mf every team relies on shots, the last team which relied on strats and never shots was NRG with FNS and they never made it anywhere

They dont rely on him popping off either

Viva is washed I must admit, used to be the goat tho we shall never forget 🙏😔

ahh so who was IGL before? Coconut?

hindsight, KK has made far more questionable plays than CB over the years

Does anyone know why WsLeo was picked up btw I dont watch t2 was this a good decision? I feel like he isn't really XLG level but maybe I'm wrong

thanks for ruining it

Not even life game this is just how he plays usually

EDG just sucked in general it's honestly difficult for CB to look that great when their lack of macro causes them to be so uncomfortable in doing basically anything, like if anything Nobody's calling has been terrible

I think if anything we just gotta believe in them, even when S1mon first joined (after their terrible loss at Shanghai) everyone was skeptical and thought EDG weren't picking up the right people. Just give the rookies a chance (S1mon was literally one), dont replace CB - if anything he's been the best pickup so far, regionally he has beeen genuinely insane. Let him get some more international experience and I'm sure he will not just match but top EDG's level

The main problem at the moment is EDG is extremely unsure of any specific playstyle to lean into. Back with coach AfteR 2 year ago they tried to play an extremely slow FNC style, then after kicking that coach and letting Nobody decide on most of the strats they went back to a mix of CN aggro style with a mix of their old disciplined slower style (which obvs helped them win champs) and now they're just all over the place and fighting one by one. (Likely Autumn's decision)

Autumn is trying to lean into the players strengths but it's wayy too unstructured at the moment especially with all the comps they tried out (and for some reason switched back at internationals?) They probably need more time to get used to a non-chinese coach + CB + all the new strats theyre experimenting with. But I'd say the main issue still really lies in nobody, if he doesnt improve his calling and mechanics then its over

I mean they did approach Smoggy IRL. All I'm saying is if you were on chinese social media more or have seen any documentaries abt it you'd get it. EDG has always been the most popular in China and they feel the most 'representative' hence basically all the hate goes directly to them rather than Trace, FPX, BLG, XLG, etc

That was also why the stuff with S1mon was such a huge issue because in his streams he would constantly hint towards things going on in EDG in a bad way and letting his fans hate, rather than either staying silent (which is the rule of the contracts players have to sign) or make a more formal statement. KK for example in his streams would remain professional and shut down a lot of people who were saying this or that about AfteR etc.

If you watched the regionals CB is arguably their 2nd best player, the rest of the core also wasnt incredible at their first international

CB is actually probably the smartest player before Chichoo, EDG need someone like that who doesnt make questionable decisions (like KK)

CB is a very good yoru player, its his first international and even then he didnt do that bad given EDG was lacking macro and structure

I dont think it was S1mon, it was nobodys calling (and finally being able to have more say over the comps after releasing coach AfteR), people forget there were multiple changes other than S1mon that changed the team a lot (comps, playstyle, etc)

As an EDG fan who wants to see the best for my team I have to be realistic and say that S1mon will not fix anything unfortunately. They either need coaching to work more with nobody or get a new IGL/coach. I'm still willing to see how things work out with Autumn but I'm ngl his timeouts have looked useless so far

S1mon doesnt want to come back and theres no guarantee at all that just with S1mon, things will work out. The main issue is Nobody has falling off in calling, there are some analysis of his calling during champs and it was pretty incredible some of the reads they are getting - now it's VERY bad

I think Autumn has actually encouraged them to take aggro fights more (despite no proactive strats on def) which has probably taken them in the wrong direction though I understand his thought process

He's around the same level as the top duelists from NA and EMEA in terms of smart, also mechanically insane (was shooting better than smoggy nobody and chichoo for all of kickoff)

People just overreacting its his first international, none of the core EDG looked incredible at their first LANs either

The main issue was EDG lacking good structure, CB couldnt do much other than just throw himself in - their site execs arent great

CB was pretty incredible regionally, he's one of the smartest duelists in the region. You can see this especially when he plays yoru, out of the core he usually makes the least questionable decisions

I honestly dont think CB even played that bad, EDG is lacking a lot of structure and chemistry that has resulted in him running in without no real site exec and support. I'd say Nobody is the real issue (even smoggy arguably), his calling has fell off a lot

Thats just a lack of empathy lmao, you dont know how bad the hate is in China. Smoggy for example shared how scared and worried he was during the time when fans were doxxing him and finding him irl. There was a period (about half a year) that whenever KK streamed, 90% of the chat was extreme hate (+death threats etc)

heres someone who knows ball

EDG 2-0
Surely they fix their overpeeking, throwing man advantage, and anti-ecos in a few days right..

Also can chichoo and smoggy actually perform

Fr literally only kk and cb are playing well. Chichoo smoggy and nobody form are really lacking

EDG 2-1 M8
loses first map close 11-13
wins the next 2 comfortably 13-7 13-8

CB MVP +21

??

cb I'm telling you might be the top 3 smartest duelists in CN, genuinely incredible how good he is

It's ok you've been spared

China is by far the most fun wtf, what region do you think isnt boring?

EDG 3-1

I wouldn't say that, EDG looked very strong last game

On YOUR life EDG doesn't lose to BLG with Biank 🙏🙏

Proud to say I believed in AG becoming top 3 since almost 2 years ago when they got a roster of 10, always had a feeling they knew what they were doing

f4ngeer not even carrying that hard lowkey the rest are insane, esp iamgrq and shr1mp

It's like you guys never learn lmao

You sound like that one Boostio quote

Bro this mf shouting to bring the cameras over when he stands up LOLL

guy's too much of a vibe no wonder they're not nervous at all

Dude Cb is genuinely top 3 smartest duelists in CN he always makes the right decision and timings its fucking insane

Fr PLEASE stop letting BLG embarass China every time

Wheres the loyalty smh I've been watching them through their lows and highs since like 2021

Do we even exist anymore where did all the fans go

he lowkey just doing it for the vibe

And standing up and cheering for his teammates too, W teammate

iamgrq clears

should they tho? I thought drg just played better

Yall are so overdramatic they lost 11-13 and both teams looked good

Ay dont direspect flex1n like that, you should know as a drg fan how much they got better ever since they switched to him IGL

AG 3-2

they'll be fine

Predicted FPX would be shit like always before the season even started btw.

I really think Berlin gotta go..

Remove Berlin obvs

I always had a feeling AG knew what they were doing from the start even when they were bottom 2, we are finally seeing the results of what was probably an insane amount of practice and training. Respect. Lowkey might be my 2nd fav team (before EDG ofc)