BuZz: https://x.com/Buzz_kr/status/1919068492847870011
Meteor: https://x.com/Meteorvlrt/status/1919070265289375920
Munchkin: https://x.com/MUNCHKING_/status/1919013559209464059
t3xture also said this :https://x.com/seri__berry/status/1919056840479916239 (credit: @seri__berry)
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like why even speak out if your gonna say this ngl.
Like if they are scrim sharing ofc they are going to say this, nobody on geng is actually making an argument as to why they aren't scrim sharing other than them just expressing their personal values
This is t3xture's opinion in streaming (This is translated)
Oh, Munchkin wrote something on Twitter today?
What is it?
Is it about scrim info sharing again?
Didn't that topic come up last year? The scrim sharing thing?
They said they had some evidence? Can't they just bring the evidence?
Why do they keep saying such stupid things?
If that topic came up last year, what about us going to finals undefeated in Madrid and winning Shanghai? We didn't just play in Pacific.
Why isn't it just clean/clear?
Oh, so the reason we just stayed quiet was because we thought it wasn't aimed at us,
Did I really need to do anything about this?
???: Gen.G plays well, but they have an unspeakable secret.
T3xt: What nonsense is that? What secret? I can tell you.
What nonsense, what about the Governor? So the Governor should provide that evidence now?
Oh, why do people cause so much stress?
They deleted the post? What deleted post? What nonsense? I'm not that angry right now... rather than angry, I guess I'm just tired now?
How long do we have to keep putting up with that?
No, it's not like there was any particular reason we just stayed quiet.
Viewer: Can we feel at ease?
T3xt: Why are you feeling anxious? I'll just tell you simply. For example, let's say some team shared information with another team,
and it's the day of the match. On the day of the match, 'They're going to move exactly like this, they're going to use this strategy in this way, they'll use this on round X.'
F***, it just doesn't make sense from the start, right? And a strategy is something you fall victim to even if you know it. The timing and things like that, that's what makes a strategy something you fall victim to even if you know it.
Just because that strategy was stopped means information leaked? That doesn't make sense. Then you should find the solution elsewhere, like the strategy wasn't good, or the timing was off. Why,
do you focus on scrim sharing, that's what I'm saying.
Why do they arbitrarily downplay the efforts and hard work that other teams put in? That's what I mean. Is being genuinely good a crime?
I always say, if our team loses, it's because we weren't good enough and the opponent played well. There's nothing different about it. The opponent was better than us. So what's the problem with that?
Then we just need to work harder and fix the parts where we made mistakes, right?
What I don't understand is, when you lose a match, you take a day off and come to the practice room, then you'll watch the match you played, right?
'Why did we lose?' you'll watch the match thinking that, and within that, the big problems are: someone made a mistake when executing the strategy, or the strategy execution was good but the opponent did some ridiculous variable play and the match got ruined,
or the strategy worked well but our team couldn't finish kills and we lost. You should be thinking things like that, but instead, it's 'Their movement is weird? It's like they moved as if they knew we were going to do this?
I can see t3xture is giving a reasonable response based on logic but the other players listed above, not so much.
It’s also not impossible that there is something to both sides here really. It’s unlikely that there isn’t some ongoing issue with scrim sharing, since riot hasn't commented and multiple players from entirely different teams spoke up about it now. At the same time its entirely possible that frost received info that is vague or deceiving and some of the accused teams are actually innocent, or simply that some of the players aren’t entirely aware of what their coaching staff is doing.
I think its unreasonable to assume that either of the sides is actually just full on lying to slander other teams. I assume there has been some scrim sharing, but it might not have been every team that was accused, and some of the players arent aware of it in the first place. Something like Frost getting infos about Korean teams scrim sharing that refer to one team in specifically, but then maybe he assumed that it refers to other Korean teams too (just as an example)
T1 is innocent.
Former T1 coach Daeda:
“ In Val APAC I had to make a flow chart to keep track of which teams/orgs were known for VOD sharing. An entire region w/ a Discord server where they'd share the other countries scrim VODs in the league. X team leaking to Y team and getting info from some CN teams.”
Tweet: https://twitter.com/t1_daeda/status/1919071542182637592?s=61&t=Ehwaoq90CIGM1fQLQJ4VqA
not sure what your point is?
u tryna say that the burden of proof is on the accusers?
The problem is the very teams these players have been on. Their words dont mean too much.
Its time for everybody to speak out and Riot to not punish them for it.
We need to honestly look at the accusations
I mean who tf saying All Korean shared vods, from frost interview after lost to DRX this beef only between him and termi, there's is no mention all of Korean team
its ok hes just baiting, keeps repeating the same thing trying to stir up trouble
Frost and Termi the beef is explained by chobra it is not releted to scrimm leaks it is like frost said termi disrespect him and frost disrespect him by giving half fist bump last year and then termi called time out when they were 12-5 to BM frost and today frost did same by not fisbump
Frost is a child and very unprofessional like. Send him back to Tier 2 with Chet.
I just hate that this whole situation would allow coaches to deflect responsibility for losing by blaming everything on scrim leaks. Fcking take accountability for losing and stop half-assing the evidences, just air it all out properly if they really want make accusations
holy newgen
having 5 1st place finishes in S and A tier tourneys def warrents legend status, esp considering how small the cs market was in asia
Winning some random mickymouse tournaments doesn't make you a legend lmao
Ofc they're not going to admit they're scrim sharing. Why would they do that
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