fraudnatic kicking derke
or
jawgemo staying on eg
He was either their 2nd or best player at kickoff in 2024 I think you forgot
C9 is so over hated, they choke, but they're always a respectable opponent, dropping yay isn't even a bad move, the bad move was signing him
they improved instantly after dropping yay and vanity for two unknown players
This "improvement" is peaking at 4th place during playoffs which I think the old C9 team couldve done if they tried fixes instead of blowing the whole thing up they didn't even make champs afterwards just because they improved doesn't mean it was a good idea although if the org is going to complain about money then signing yay was definitely silly in the first place
they got a mil off of Tenz's buyout iirc, so it wasn't the worst roster move for c9.
I think it’s probably one of the best roster moves in Valorant. Tenz benched himself so he wasn’t even playing for c9 when he got bought out. C9 got a mil, sen definitely got more than that value from tenz being signed and tenz got to win valorants first international despite c9 being a mid team.
Not only did they let the best player in the world walk, they sent him to their biggest competition and spoon fed them a championship.
LOUD
-aspas
-less
-pancada
-sacy
-saadhack
the best team in valorant history
sure but my point was that "the best team in valorant history" lost to kru
and according to me, the best team in valorant history is fnatic 2023
° Alfajer
° Leo
° Derke
° Chronicle
° Boaster
Yeah I do think fnc 2023 are the best team ever but they also did lose to liquid
but after that they won their second tournament in a row anyway liquid played very well and made an anti-strat
apart from being the only defeat in the whole year before Champions, unlike Loud who had previously lost several times against Optic and once against Kru
'the best team' that never won a champions lol
Loud 2022 was the best team in history, had the best duelist, the best sentinel, the best iniciator, the best controler and the best IGL in the world, no context
'but they lost to KRU' and? Leviatan last year lost to C9, that C9 was better than Lev? EDG won the champions but lost to WOLVES, so if Wolves made to the champions they would have won? No lol
The only team in the same level as Loud was that Optic, the greatest rivalry in val, but every single player in that optic is washed, so history showed the best team
Everyone that says FNC 2023, or Optic 2022 or EG 2024 are better than Loud 2022 just doesnt want to admit that the best team in history is a BRAZILIAN team
Eles nunca vao entender.
fnc 2023 lost TWICE to Loud 2023 in the champions, they didnt even won EMEA bro, lost to LIQUID, they werent even top 3 in champions bro
I dont ONLY count champion, but is the most important championship in val, of course for a team be considered the best all time they had to had a top 3 in the champions, at leat
ur best team of all time got grouped in masters copenhagen in last place lol
saadhak is NOT the best igl of all time
sacy is NOT the best initiator of all time
pANcada is NOT the best controller of all time
and less is NOT the best sentinel of all time (subjective)
and aspas is probably the best but thats it
y'all are TOO delusional
y'all won in dinosaur era
if you consider optic your rival, you are just nostalgic
fnatic 2023 clears
also eg 2023 clears
classic brazillian victim mentality who thinks everyone is against them and does not want to accept their achievements
less is the best sentinel of all time and sacy is the best initiator of all time, saad is one of the best and pancada is one of the greatest, maybe not the greater
but I was saying the best AT THAT TIME, I never said best all time bro
how 2 teams that played several finals against each other are not rivals? All optic and Loud players considered Loud x Optic the best rivarly of all time, but 1243 in vlr.gg doenst lol
sacy LMAOOOOOOOO
y'all are so delusional
dinosaur era farmers
go back to 2022
"all optic and loud players" yeah no shit they consider it the best
im not saying anything about that rivalry i couldn't care less about dinosaur eras stupid rivalry where washed uncs played the game
im saying you're blinded by the fucking nostalgia
"best rivalry of all time" buddy it's been 5 years and your rivalry was in dinosaur era don't be saying stupid biased things which your delusional ass believes
"oh loud so good oh optic so good"
farmed couple of plumbers and they think they're the best
newsflash buddy game evolved and isn't full of plumbers that mediocre players can beat
"best team in history" LOL wake up, there literally been only 5 years and there have been so many better teams than teams who farmed in dinosaur and their fans are still clinging and coping because they can't do shit now when the level of play is so high
go cry buddy and be nostalgic about your deary optic and loud
"oh my optic oh my loud i miss you I loved it when you were farming plumbers, now I can't enjoy and I have to cope with saying blasphemous stuff because I can't accept the fact that y'all are not good. i like lying to myself to make myself feel better. i wish I went back to 2022 to see you farming washed uncs. so sad :("
pathetic really
"only team that rivaled my stupid plumber farmer loud was optic because both were present in 2022 and both farmed retired washed uncs. LALALA I MISS LOUD OH LOUD COMEBACK"
bro can't accept that fnatic 2023 and eg 2023 clears so he clinging on to plumbers era
classic denial and brazillian bias, oh everything we do must be the best or we'll delude ourselves into thinking we're the best LMAOOOOOOO
"best team of all time" buddys team farmed plumbers and electricians and bro thinks that's the best of all time even though it's just been 5 years and there were better teams just a year later
DPMO BUDDY newsflash brazil isn't good
how dare you spout nonsense about a team who played during the first 2 years of an under developed game which was just recovering from washed cs pros transitioning, the real valorant's being played now where brazil is trash and aspas has to drop the best game ever to carry those bums
GTFO
bro u are saying that 2022(!!!!!!) is a DINOSAUR ERA????????? U ARE DELUSIONAL BRO WTF LOOOL
ALL Loud 2022 players kept win bro, NONE of them are washed like optic, Sacy won a Master, Less won EMEA, Aspas is the best player in the world, Saad won a Americas and kept playing in high level, pancada is back to Loud and is the best player in the team, WHAT DO YOU MEAN DINOSAUR ERA 💀💀💀💀
Its been TWO years and some months bro, NOT 5 YEARS
Bro, go back to school, probably u are like 15/14 years old to think that 2 years and 4/5 months is a lot bro lol
This is probably the worst thing I have read in here, It had to have come from an American, of course kkkkkkkkkkk
classic brazillian racism
and denial
it was a dinosaur era keep coping now that brazil sucks when the real valorant's being played so you have to cling to the past and keep remembering the distant past where y'all farmed plumbers LMAOOOO
newsflash buddy life moves on fast
and time in esports moves faster
by your argument should we consider tenz the best player of all time since he has the best stats in an international tournament? does he clear aspas?
btw aspas has never dropped above 1.15 in an international tourney regional farmer farms shit brazillian teams KKKKKKKKK
CRY KKKKKKKKK DINOSAUR ERA PLUMBER FARMER
Its... kinda ironic you say that when this same exact fnatic roster lost to Loud twice in a row in the most important tourney of the year
loud dropping aspas so they could stay with saadhak (wasnt braindead at the time but it is on retrospect)
thats why it wasnt braindead at the time. but then saadhak went nuts at split 1
The comps were cool and I thought they were good for some maps but he tried way too hard to play the exact same comp on literally every map
nrg:
+demon1
t1:
-xccurate
t1 shud have stuck with the roster they had at shanghai instead of going for stax who is very good imo but him not being fluent in english probably messed up the team chem and comms. t1 at shanghai showed immense potential by almost toppling g2. xccurate was fragging out and was igling pretty well too
If they didnt go for stax, buzz wouldnt have joined, and you wouldnt have the T1 u have right now. Player history and chemistry matters a lot, its why you see s0m sticking with fns even tho he has dementia at this point
Liquid kicking Sayf
There's a timeline out there where Liquid has a core of Sayf, nAts, and Keiko
Didn't Sayf say that Liquid management disrespected him or something along those lines? Sayf absolutely hates Liquid as an org which pretty much means that Liquid still had a fault in the Sayf departure.
'kicking' kinda implies it was liquid which was unsatisfied with sayf's performance
whereas it was the other way around
EG :
-Demon1
Biggest fumble oat, coz you could have just won more trophy, get more fame because you are the main villain, and everyone hate watch you for it, litteraly everyone was winning
They didn't have much of a choice. They didn't have enough money to keep them all
Oh they did have enough money, but CEO spent it all over anything
GE
-SkRossi
-Monyet
-Texture
It's the biggest blunder of any org
Monyet and texture are now Pacific top players
And Ge let them go
it seems like, but im not lmao, there's still a difference and fnatic struggled financially so they couldn't keep derke
They literally benched him cuz he wouldn't agree to a salary cut and then tried to contract jail him bruh
c9 +curry omfg it was actually awful. same with GUILD +russ he was a walking ult orb.
fnatic didnt kick derke...
he left for monetary reasons prolly n fnatic most likely weren't willing to match vitality's offer so let him go now instead of losing him for free later