#2 all-time behind Chronicle
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| Registered: | August 11, 2021 |
| Last post: | October 17, 2026 at 8:28 AM |
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Fair, but I personally would rank Derke slightly higher than Alfajer if he wins Champs. The extra trophy he’ll have would put him ever so slightly above Alfa
Ngl if VIT wins champs, I actually don’t know who you can even put as #2 all-time behind Chronicle if not Derke.
Ropz was the star player in Mouz and Faze
The only reason why he isnt the star now is because his teammate is the fucking GOAT
dont forget the time he was playing cypher with a nade
undisputed GOAT duelist if he wins champs
EMEA is competing with CS for the talent while the other regions do not
this is the nicest thing someone has said to me today
Might try to solo queue to Immortal this time. Usually, I just solo queue to Ascendant and call it a day, but I've been winning quite some games recently so I might try getting to Immortal
Cloud is good. I still personally think Cloud should be their scan initiator instead of crashies. Either put crashies on flex or find a flex player.
Lowkey this team is top-tier if they still kept Chronicle instead of crashies
Vitality looks good enough with Derke, Chronicle, and Sayonara.
FUT also looks like the best Turkish team right now.
Heretics looks like hot ass atm so I'm not sure about them
Fnatic with Cloud might be good. Same with Liquid with trexx (even if they'll go 1-2 in Champs)
Yes but I don't think Loud forces a game 5 in the first place against a FNC team with nAts
I think FNC would've still won LOCK//IN and Tokyo if you replaced Boaster with nAts. There was no team in the world that would match the firepower of Derke, Leo, Alfajer, Chronicle, and nAts.
But I agree, I feel like FNC would've been worse if you replace Boaster with nAts during Toronto and Paris. Boaster made the most out of that 2025 FNC roster. There was no way crashies was matching Leo skill-wise so they were already worse in terms of firepower compared to 2023 but they made it up with Boaster's IGLing. If you replace Boaster with nAts, the firepower goes up a bit (but still not in the level of when they had Leo) and the IGLing goes down so it's a worse team overall.
paTiTek’s last map with Liquid was on Abyss and he went 4/15
I’ll be honest, I really like their roster this year and I don’t think they should make any changes. Ever since the start of franchising, Liquid always had a weak link firepower-wise that kinda put a ceiling on their team. Back in 2023 it was soulcas/Redgar, in 2024 it was Enzo, in 2025 it was paTiTek
I don’t really see an obvious weak link in this team, it’s just that Miniboo, kamo, and purp0 always had that reputation of being cracked but inconsistent. At their best, Liquid’s firepower is world-class. At their worst, they can be a bottom 3 team in EMEA.
They’ll probably get better in time. There’s no one in EMEA that they can sign that would be an upgrade for this team anyway.
Liquid: ComeBack, trexx, Chronicle, nAts, dos9
Saw somewhere that Keiko is confirmed to be out of Liquid so that's sad
thanks! i dont really try to grind after i get to ascendant but i have a pretty good winrate this act so might as well
my fave player is actually chronicle but yeah same thing, i thrive to be a good flex player
atmospheric scientist
my bachelors was an engineering degree though but my masters and soon-to-be phd is weather-related
purp0 (duelist)
Keiko (second duelist/flex)
trexx (scan)
nAts (IGL/sentinel)
SUYGETSU (controller)
trexx sucks balls on anything not a scan ini so just instalock him as a sova/fade
keiko should stop playing smokes and just be the second duelist or flex into a flash ini on some maps
suygetsu gives them an actual controller instalock
only one in the team that went positive and its +23 lol
being a liquid fan is measured on how many times you say "oh my god liquid u suck" during a match
whether it be cs, valorant, or any e-sport
LIQUID YOU MAY SUCK BUT AT LEAST YOU'RE NOT THE WORST
bold of you to think that being a coach would stop boaster from doing that
the announcement of twistzz leaving liquid a few days ago already broke my heart so this is nothing
find a duelist that can hard carry sometimes, kamo is too inconsistent, maybe just get the best duelist in t2 that doesnt win ascension
instalock trexx to a scan ini
get an actual smokes main, or maybe just suygetsu tbh
keiko flex
The stream just showed a graphic that said nAts, Alfajer, and Derke have reached 2k before him
You know what, you're right.
It would also be nice to see Shao back on the international stage
should be the strongest EMEA representatives for Champions since 2021, right?
2021 was: Gambit, Liquid, Acend, Fnatic
dalla dalla, wannabe, and not shy are all better than icy imo
sh1ro is online, feel like mouz has no chance
free Wo0t as well
get them both on a full turkish roster
soulcas when theres no pressure
Top 4 is literally just the finalists of Masters Shanghai and Masters Toronto so I think they're pretty good
Lower than Masters but higher than Regional
But its closer to Masters than it is is to Regionals
I'm fine with single elim since it's common in CS but I still prefer double elims in VCT tournaments
Non-VCT tournaments being single elim seems fun though
if valyn can flex then:
zekken - duelist
trent - scan
valyn - flex / igl
leaf - senti
s0m - controller
Duelist: zekken
Initiator: Shao
Flex: Chronicle
Sentinel/IGL: nAts
Controller: MaKo
Max Verstappen (Duelist)
d0nk (Initiator)
Leffen (Flex)
Anthony Davis (Sentinel)
Magnus Carlsen (Controller / IGL)
chronicle just good enough to make it work
Instead, Liquid should buy him out. +Leo -Serial
Liquid should also convince XLG/RRQ that Rarga/Jemkin are LAN chokers so they drop him. Liquid then gets one of them. +Rarga/Jemkin -kamo
Finally, nAts can fix trexx trust me bro. +trexx -paTiTek
Liquid roster:
Duelist - Rarga/Jemkin
Scan Ini - Leo
Flash/Flex - trexx
Sentinel/IGL -nAts
Controller - Keiko
totally not a biased take btw
fair, but a locked in trexx would be such a huge upgrade
As much as I'd like an upgrade from paTiTek. I really feel like his veteran presence is somewhat a key to Liquid's current success. He really feels like a glue/vibes guy.
I'm also starting to like Serial but he'll probably the first one to be dropped if Liquid makes changes.
-Serial +trexx maybe? paTiTek moves to flex while trexx is the main initiator
Who would win?
EMEA:
Duelist: purp0
Scan: Shao
Flash/Flex: Chronicle
Sentinel/IGL: nAts
Controller: SUYGETSU
Bench: trexx
WORLD:
Duelist: Jemkin
Scan/IGL: kr1stal
Flash/Flex: something
Sentinel: vo0kashu
Controller: dos9
Bench: Rarga