Duelist
- Texture
- Jawgemo
- Governor(King of 8.11)
- Woot
- Aspas
Smoker
- Mako
- Karon
- Boo
- Berlin
- Izu
Initiator
- Lakia
- Heat
- Davai
- Leo
- Invy
Sentinel
- Benjy
- Less
- Meteor
- Vookashu
- Tex
Flex
- Munchkin
- Narrate
- Chronicle
- Surf(Would be higher if he has brain)
- Forsaken
Duelist
Smoker
Initiator
Sentinel
Flex
vookashu has bad fundamentals. not a team player bro wiht solo buy and fuck up his teams economy.
Dude what obviously its the plan from coach and stuff that he plays like that, do you think his teammates wont tell him to not buy or smth?
rich considering some of these players dont even play the roles they're top 5 in
Im from the future, He is king of 8.11 my neon goat 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐
he's buns I'm afraid
even Neon buff won't save him, he's just not good
Just give this "Its my opinion".i know your talon fans but can you see swerl,kangkang,woot,cryo,meiy play duelist.
I think this better duelist
Brother I don't think Neon being good will automatically take him to Top 3 duelist in the world 😭🙏🏼
nah im backing my goat mako
who would be above mako (besides karon if you're only going by recency bias)
you probably haven't watched vct for a while, dude is the only consistent player on smokes for a few years (VS to DRX '24)
even with his recently IGL, he puts up mad numbers and was rated #1 smokes in VCTP, and the only smokes in top 10 rating by a long shot.
pancada in his prime form would still be in debate with mako at the time (and his form only lasted for like 3 tournaments max)
boo is not too excellent IMO, he's also arguably the worst on TH and his rating isn't too high either
mindfreak is currently on fraudwatch for a while now, even when he peaked people considered him to be inferior to mako
marved WAS good, but I genuinely don't know what happened, he just magically dropped in form gradually since OPTC
s0m is a good contender, but not enough information on his consistency (low sample size), and most people are drunk in recency bias. compared to the dynasty over smokes mako has, s0m still needs a solid 2 years of this performance to be comparable
fr bro this guy is waffling his APAC bias, don't see izu, berlin, and boo in top 5
if we are talking all time I think its obviously Mako. But I think you HAVE to use recency bias with Karon bc of how recent Shanghai was lol.
geng have an average of top 1.6, yet arent dominating as much as a team with that much firepower would actually dominate. complete bullshit tierlist
this is one of the worst posts I've ever seen, absolutely disgusting and probably rage baiting
Mako: 0 trophies, prime form got diffed by ice-cream man
Karon: 1 trophy, multiple runners up
Karon is very good but mako's been consistent for all of last year and this year too. His stats might be a bit nerfed now since he is igling
Consistent in coming 3rd-4th? Gen.G has either won or placed 2nd at literally every event after they debuted. Now THAT is consistency.
Don't confuse team placing with player stats. Mako's ranking (for controllers) so far has been:
1st masters reykjavik 2022
1st masters copenhagen
2nd champions 2022 (behind pancada)
1st lock//in
1st vct pacific 2023
2nd masters tokyo (behind s0m unless you count demon1 and jawgemo as smokes in which he's 4th)
2nd champions 2023 (same thing as above)
1st vct pacific kickoff
1st vct pacific stage 1
All that means nothing if his team can't win. Karon holding that one site down only with a sheriff>>>more important than all of those. Nobody cares about all that. In their last match up Karon diffed the shit out of Mako. And then every time he played he made sure to diff the opponent smokes.
let’s put it this way. In the upper final and the grand final of madrid. Karon total combined acs was 168. Yes ypu can argue gen g had a dominant win in both series even though grand finals went to 5 maps. MaKo never had a team good enough to do that and actually win so please stop nitpicking and actually look at the broad scale. Karon has never had stats anywhere near as good as MaKo’s but his team. Winning a masters don’t mean you have the best players in every role. A players skill is determined by individual performance, not team performance. so stop weighing team success into this debate when he isn’t even the best player on gen g
Yeah nobody cares. Bro's again bringing up numbers lmao. Last time they faced clearly Karon showed who's the better one. Mako's consistency against shitter teams means nothing. Karon is playing in the highest stage and winning.
Nobody gives a shit about boring ass stats. He has never held a trophy. Clearly he is not making enough impact if he still hasn't won a trophy. Meanwhile my goat Karon went +11 in the Shanghai grand final. Mako can never do that in a big stage, let alone reach there.
nobody cares about domestic ratings bro, karon has a trophy and has attended 2 btb gfs and won 1 which is what matters
consistency means jack if u arent going beyond that lol
wtf suddenly according to everyone old DRX is a bad team and mako needs to be saved and its a team diff
more than half the list he showed aren’t domestic. If this is your argument, that also means you think angel or boaster or zellsis is better than MaKo because they won a trophy, don’t confuse team success with individual success. If Karon was the best player on his team, his team would be lower to mid table in apac region alone. He’s the 3rd best player on his own team, insane how you can make such a dumb argument and defend it with an even dumber claims
drx and prx fans can keep coping about consistency while other teams keep running away w more trophies and watch their team get rebuilt every year 😹
u guys r beyond delusional, there’s a reason why most orgs prioritize trophies over consistently placing 5th
karon is a much better player than mako will ever be srry, if aspas can drop 47 kills and carry his team surely mako can too, mako just doesn’t have enough impact outside of vlr stat padding
demon1 carried tf out of his team last year on controller, no excuse for mako
results>>>>>vlr stats kek
Ass tier list.talon fans detected.i know you talon fans and please dont make tier list again before you watch all any region.
Im not talon fans, I just start hyping them when 8.11 announce. Their best player not in this list
duelist
Ini
Controller
Senti
flex 1. Forsaken and 2. Chronicle idk bout the rest
Great list, its better than most of people in vlr. I had Keznit on my list even before considering Woot as a duelist. Reins and Kingg are my top 6. Our lists are very close👍👍 👍
duelist:
d3ff0
something
TenZ
controller:
redgar
TenZ
flex:
sheydos
initiator:
chronicle
sentinel:
nAts
-Froggy0_0
#Gambit4Life
There are 1-2 reasonable players on each list. the rest is random
how the hell is johnqt not top 5 sentinels what has vookashu done and dont tell me tex is better ffs