NBA analysts disrespecting Kobe vs the players themselves moment:
https://www.vlr.gg/487902/there-are-none-so-blind-as-those-who-will-not-see/#1
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NBA analysts disrespecting Kobe vs the players themselves moment:
https://www.vlr.gg/487902/there-are-none-so-blind-as-those-who-will-not-see/#1
Its time to pose the question: Has Chronicle ever been the best player on any team he's been on? (for a reasonable, definite time period)
Gambit/M3C: Nats*
Fnatic 2023: Alfajer -> Leo
Fnatic 2024: Leo -> Derke
Fnatic 2025: Alfajer
*From what I can tell, his best argument would be from Gambit at Champs 2021 to M3C 2022 emea stage 1, but even this is not so certain. Nats had just come off of being the clear (and yes it was clear) Berlin MVP, and at champs their numbers were similar as well. Nats also went for +31 in the GF. Chronicle had the better overall stats for stage 1, but Nats had better playoff stats. Numbers aside, most people at the time would very likely have said that it was Nats team.
Nats wasn't even liquid's best player in 2023 (sayf) and hasn't been in 2025 (keiko) but yall not ready for that convo yet
Bumping this again because I told all yall motherfuckers
9/10 of the players on the 2023 PRX and EG rosters now have trophies
That PRX core now has a grand finals win over 3/5 of that Fnatic roster without Something playing at Pacific MVP level
#ReturntheTokyoTrophy
I guess the truth hurts more than that 2v4
It isn't a choke, PRX is just better
Multiple legends of the game disagree
https://www.vlr.gg/487902/there-are-none-so-blind-as-those-who-will-not-see/#1
FNS came out of retirement to retire again in that time 🥀
Condition 1: Real Event with Competitive Format? ✔️
Condition 2: Other top teams are allowed to compete at full strength? ✔️
There was never any doubt
PRX 3-1 FNC, 6/22/2025
A new agent with programmable lineups, you setup the lineup like normal, then are able to move around and let it rip at a later time
#Nostradamus
When you can throw the cove like an omen smoke you will
nvm, i've leaked too much
This musta been wintrading because aint no way
Assume each team is in their prime form
EG
Prime Fnatic needed a miracle to beat Loud the first time and was only decisively better than Tokyo EG on one map. Champs-form EG massacres them
How quickly they forget: https://www.vlr.gg/393738/fnatic-was-never-great
it is a shooting game after all
Neither Chronicle nor Leo received any votes for the GOAT: (https://youtu.be/n7NYMVaatxI?si=QPBnlbX-Frod5ubD&t=368)
Aspas was tied for first (Zekken, Nats, Derke)
Kangkang also got 3 (Biank, Smoggy, Meteor)
Yay and Derke both got 1 (Trent, Beyn)
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The most revealing part is both Nats and Derke won an event with Chronicle and they both chose Aspas
Bro thinks America is unique regarding slavery, its been around pretty much everywhere for centuries, look at any place in the world and it probably had slavery at some point.
And even if you just focus in on the trans-atlantic slave trade, the vast majority was directed towards South America (mostly brazil) and the Caribbean, North America was actually were it was the least widespread.
In the 4 years since losing to Acend in 2021, Nats has won 2 matches internationally, the first vs EDG at Tokyo, and the second vs SEN in the Swiss stage of Bangkok
"Aspas is great, but he's not gonna be able to do that every time, MIBR are not as good as their placement suggests"
'so there players played good and they got a good placement CRAZYY😰'
Chichoo had to go +21 and +29 to 2-1 G2 and T1 just days ago, Tenz's best at Reykjavic was +18
Once Chichoo's performance came back down to earth (great player, love him, but keeping up his performance from the start was unsustainable) they got folded
They don't even get 3rd without that crazy hot streak
Not so tough without our run-n-gun are we?
He also chamber diffed prime yay to win champs:
https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf/?game=95134&tab=overview
Btw, neither Leaf nor especially benjyfishy are close to the goat senti debate
Less's matchup record vs every Major-Winning Senti he's played against:
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6-0 vs Boostio (2x international, 4x domestic)
6-2 vs Fns (6x international, 2x domestic)
3-0 vs Alfajer (3x international)
2-0 vs Nats (1x international, 1x domestic)
2-0 vs Chichoo (2x international)
2-0?* vs Meteor (2x international)
1-0 vs Suygetsu (1x international)
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2-2 vs Johnqt (1x international, 3x domestic)
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2-3 vs Yay (5x international)
*Technically Meteor did individually outperform him in their match at Lock In, making it 2-1, but he was on duelist. In fact, Gen.G didn't even officially play a senti that match
*I don't consider demon1 a 'senti player' even though he did touch chamber a couple times. Clearly neither did NRG'24 or LEV'25
Apparently it's supposed to have 2 dashes and serve as an alternative to Jett, although I was reading the slack channel and I still think Jett is gonna be better...
I mean lets go new agent I can't wait to see yippie!!!
They never recovered from that fake clone.
wouldn't this be the reverse then?
That you dedicate an actual part of your life to knowingly and intentionally misgendering someone literally every opportunity you can - obsessed with people who will probably never even know you exist
And not just that, but being such a degenerate that when someone corrects you, you literally get mad and have an emotional need to continue doing it. Literally feeling IRL frustration and anger from behind a keyboard 😂
I'll never understand why it's so hard for these freaks behave like normal people instead of being chronically online and living pathetic lives.
That's how people were shooting at Mooda those last 5 games of the act
Forever, forever ever? Forever ever?
This site is addictive and I've spent way too much time on it. Its time for a semi-permanent departure. Might still make a post or reply to something every once in a while, but nothing like I used to. As I reflect, what I enjoyed most was not the 'build a roster for 15$' or 'Ultimate Aim Duel' type threads, but the ability to tell people what they don't want to hear (especially fans of a certain team).
I leave you all with a quote from Gandhi:
"A 'No' uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a 'Yes' merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Aspas
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Aspas bests Demon1 by 2 in the Grand Finals to win it all.
By the Community Consensus, Aspas is favored to win a 1v1 rifle aim duel against any player in the world more often than not, GIRA ASPAS!
Shoutout to everyone who voted and participated, it was fun.
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kangkang will descend upon TH like a god and display true dominance
"The Angel of Death has descended on Heretics...He's now got the most kills in ANY Bo5 in competitive Valorant in VCT, Globals, Regionals, anything. This guy is FARMING"
~3 hours left and its tied thats crazy
~8 hours left, get your vote in !!!
my fault bro 😭
I was literally discussing a similar topic in an active thread right at the time you made this
mb mb
oh lmao then thats uncanny because I was basically just talking about the same two players at the same time this thread was made
I never said he was part of the sova goat debate stop making stuff up
I just said that on an individual level he is close to leo
But there isn't 'tons' of duelists that are somewhat close to Aspas. Its a very very select few. In the Jett/Raze/Neon meta last year it was really only KangKang and Zekken that can keep up to or match his level for those 3 agents
Riens, Trexx?
They're similarly close to Leo level as other duelists are to Aspas
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