Overrated, properly rated, and underrated player?

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Name one player you think is overrated, properly rated, and underrated

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SENfns
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leo/nats
mako
d4v4i

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prope1
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overrated: jingg
properly rated: aspas
underrated: ethan

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Zerphyr1
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sacy and leo
leaf
zekken

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DU_Uxie
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SENfns [#2]

leo/nats
mako
d4v4i

Why Leo overrated?

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SENfns
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DU_Uxie [#5]

Why Leo overrated?

because by the way people talk about him you'd think he made valorant and went 100 kills with 0 deaths every game

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Zerphyr1
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prope1 [#3]

overrated: jingg
properly rated: aspas
underrated: ethan

if anything ethan is overrated, most people think he's now in the goat debate and a top 5 players. Would u agree with the majority thats he's top 5?

could be wrong bc so many ppl have recency bias but i see so many posts putting ethan top 5

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catNmouse
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prope1 [#3]

overrated: jingg
properly rated: aspas
underrated: ethan

in what world is jingg overrated?

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Yistyy
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SENfns [#6]

because by the way people talk about him you'd think he made valorant and went 100 kills with 0 deaths every game

yeah they're wrong, nats is the one who made valorant.

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BerLINglazer
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SENfns [#2]

leo/nats
mako
d4v4i

l00

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BerLINglazer
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overrated:

aspas
chronicle
alfajer
boaster
derke
zekken
leo
cryo
less
texture
meteor
karon
munchkin
jemkin

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GodAwfulGod
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overrated: kiNgg
properly rated: Xenom
underrated: thyy/JitBoyS

#13
Luceus
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Leo/FNS
s0m
D4v4i

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SENfns
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Yistyy [#9]

yeah they're wrong, nats is the one who made valorant.

no hes the one that made lurking and the agent "viper"

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SENfns
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Zerphyr1 [#4]

sacy and leo
leaf
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"zekken" "underrated"
pack it up

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Luceus
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BerLINglazer [#11]

overrated:

aspas
chronicle
alfajer
boaster
derke
zekken
leo
cryo
less
texture
meteor
karon
munchkin
jemkin

stopped reading after aspas

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Acethyr
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overrated: cryocells
properly rated: less
underrated: eeiu

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BerLINglazer
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Luceus [#16]

stopped reading after aspas

op crutch

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XOH
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Ovr: trent
prr: alfajer
unr: verno

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Zerphyr1
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SENfns [#15]

"zekken" "underrated"
pack it up

where would u place him? for me he's a top 15 player oat

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SENfns
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Zerphyr1 [#20]

where would u place him? for me he's a top 15 player oat

to this day he hasn't reached his madrid peak performance
he's lingering between overrated and properly rated

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Zerphyr1
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SENfns [#21]

to this day he hasn't reached his madrid peak performance
he's lingering between overrated and properly rated

he is legit super consistent. always the mvp on his teams (sen and xset) who both have been very successful

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DU_Uxie
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Acethyr [#17]

overrated: cryocells
properly rated: less
underrated: eeiu

W eeiu shout

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I_LOVE_LESS
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overrated: chronicle
properly rated: Less (rated as the GOAT)
underrated: s0m

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catNmouse
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catNmouse [#8]

in what world is jingg overrated?

he’s been their most consistent player this season and most of the time he gets shit from everyone. he may have a smaller agent pool but hes still the best raze and he flexes onto omen and sage occasionally

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Yistyy
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SENfns [#14]

no hes the one that made lurking and the agent "viper"

no he literally made the game. lurking was a bonus

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SENfns
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Yistyy [#26]

no he literally made the game. lurking was a bonus

no but Leo is related to Leo faria

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catNmouse
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overrated: valyn (as an IGL)
properly rated: s0m
underrated: skuba

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Yistyy
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SENfns [#27]

no but Leo is related to Leo faria

i mean that too

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prope1
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Zerphyr1 [#7]

if anything ethan is overrated, most people think he's now in the goat debate and a top 5 players. Would u agree with the majority thats he's top 5?

could be wrong bc so many ppl have recency bias but i see so many posts putting ethan top 5

he used to be massively underrated, after winning champs he's starting to get more properly rated but theres still so many stat stevens who refuse to recognize how impressive his util usage + midrounding/IGLing has been, not to mention how consistently good he's performed regardless of what team he's on

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prope1
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catNmouse [#25]

he’s been their most consistent player this season and most of the time he gets shit from everyone. he may have a smaller agent pool but hes still the best raze and he flexes onto omen and sage occasionally

the smaller agent pool really hurts, not to mention i feel like he's been outshined by everyone else on prx this year yet still gets way too much glaze for how he actually has performed the past couple years

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nooomy
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Chronicle
aspas
Shyy

#33
prope1
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nooomy [#32]

Chronicle
aspas
Shyy

w ball knowledge on shyy

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catNmouse
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prope1 [#31]

the smaller agent pool really hurts, not to mention i feel like he's been outshined by everyone else on prx this year yet still gets way too much glaze for how he actually has performed the past couple years

does he still get glaze anymore? it’s either j0ngg threads dogpiling on him or it’s f0rsaken and something glaze threads. he was their best player in stage 1 yet i haven’t seen him get appreciated as much as the other players

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overrated: ethan*
properly rated: alfajer
underrated: yetujey

*he is great and i was extremely impressed by his calling, especially on lotus and corrode - but he is not top 5. people have straight up said to me he surpassed boaster as the greatest igl of all time. delusional. great player, not top 5.

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Itsover
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SENfns [#2]

leo/nats
mako
d4v4i

stfu pisslow bot

#37
Y0B00L0w0s
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Jinggg
Aspas
Xffero

#38
SENfns
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Itsover [#36]

stfu pisslow bot

you've never hit immortal pal lets not call me pisslow

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koldamentafan
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Wolfed [#35]

overrated: ethan*
properly rated: alfajer
underrated: yetujey

*he is great and i was extremely impressed by his calling, especially on lotus and corrode - but he is not top 5. people have straight up said to me he surpassed boaster as the greatest igl of all time. delusional. great player, not top 5.

Yetujey is dogshit

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flywerk
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Luceus [#13]

Leo/FNS
s0m
D4v4i

who tf rated fns

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prope1 [#31]

the smaller agent pool really hurts, not to mention i feel like he's been outshined by everyone else on prx this year yet still gets way too much glaze for how he actually has performed the past couple years

its not like prx actually need a real agent pool from him, his omen isn't that bad and in many games he's the highest rated on the team. plus its hard to stand out when prx has probably individually one of the best teams in the world when they're all firing (behind fnc prolly)

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nikkud3s
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Luceus [#13]

Leo/FNS
s0m
D4v4i

FNS ???

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Abcdefg
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SENfns [#21]

to this day he hasn't reached his madrid peak performance
he's lingering between overrated and properly rated

he's properly rated, if you believe any real sen bait threads then your forcefully feeding yourself misinformation

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themaniel
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nAts

Kaajak

Meteor

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MrHyphon
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Wo0t
Comeback
Olizera

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SENfns
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themaniel [#44]

nAts

Kaajak

Meteor

whos underrating meteor bro

#47
Itsover
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SENfns [#38]

you've never hit immortal pal lets not call me pisslow

i hit imm3 on 4 accounts, bot

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juicyburgers
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latinx queen aspas
latinx queen aspas
latinx queen aspas

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SENfns
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Itsover [#47]

i hit imm3 on 4 accounts, bot

congratulations you've discovered you can buy imm3 accounts for a cheap price

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themaniel
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SENfns [#46]

whos underrating meteor bro

Everyone

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destroylonely
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Itsover [#47]

i hit imm3 on 4 accounts, bot

in mumbai

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askrial
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benjy
mako
v1c

#53
dimmed
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Patmen
nAts
Less

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nightwinter14
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Demon1
Boostio (ass)
Ethan

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Gdgdfdgtttt
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GodAwfulGod [#12]

overrated: kiNgg
properly rated: Xenom
underrated: thyy/JitBoyS

Kingg?!!!
ur smoking something!

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noahkraken
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Zerphyr1 [#4]

sacy and leo
leaf
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I wouldn’t call Sacy overrated. Go watch 2022 champs finals and you’ll change your mind

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ValorantEdater
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Overated: Leo
Properly rated: f0rsaken
Underrated: Aspas

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chasethefuture
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CHICHOO or S1mon
s0m
KangKang or nephh

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OliverQueen_
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Nats
Aspas
Brawk

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Two_Percent
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Gdgdfdgtttt [#55]

Kingg?!!!
ur smoking something!

Sato when kinggg uses omen smoke in their game vs prx to block the vision of their star duelist:

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aquaa018s_alterego
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nats
mako
derrek

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delighted
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nats
invy
jremy

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m0rtem
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tenz
yay
sacy

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Usz7
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prope1 [#3]

overrated: jingg
properly rated: aspas
underrated: ethan

The problem with Ethan is that he's not consistent through his career. I know he got 2 champs but where was he for the last 2 years or where was he befor EG had a champs run? 2 GREAT and I mean GREAT runs doesn't make you the best player. I'd put him as properly rated.

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serot
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catNmouse [#28]

overrated: valyn (as an IGL)
properly rated: s0m
underrated: skuba

valyn is properly rated
IGLing at a decent level
very good fragging power and impact rounds
he is honestly a desirable player to have on any roster rn IMO even if he isn't IGLing
the IGLing is what pushes him over the good player line into super valuable territory

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Usz7
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Overrated - N4RRATE
Properly rated - f0rsakeN
Underrated - BeYN

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serot
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dimmed [#53]

Patmen
nAts
Less

truth nuke

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catNmouse
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serot [#65]

valyn is properly rated
IGLing at a decent level
very good fragging power and impact rounds
he is honestly a desirable player to have on any roster rn IMO even if he isn't IGLing
the IGLing is what pushes him over the good player line into super valuable territory

the way people talk about him, you would think that he’d have at least one international trophy by now

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sexocum
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EG 2023 except jawg ethan and semen1
Wo0t
cNed

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lyssss
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LEO LEO LEO LEO
forsaken
foxy9

#71
Zerphyr1
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noahkraken [#56]

I wouldn’t call Sacy overrated. Go watch 2022 champs finals and you’ll change your mind

yeah ive watched it many times. he was good but def not top 10 players which people always seem to rate him at

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Itsover
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destroylonely [#51]

in mumbai

I'm not Indian, why would I play Mumbai on 200 ping instead of Frankfurt on 30?

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Kartik_
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Overated - ANGE1
Poorly rated - Mako, Oxy
Underrated- Primmie

#74
scarlemange
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Kaajak
N4RRATE
eeiu

#75
HammerDJ
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dimmed [#53]

Patmen
nAts
Less

the patmen hate is crazzyyyyy

bro was in contention for ROTY fr

Edit: switch nAts and pats pls :)

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dimmed
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HammerDJ [#75]

the patmen hate is crazzyyyyy

bro was in contention for ROTY fr

Edit: switch nAts and pats pls :)

I put nAts in properly because I didn't know who to put but I always disagreed with Patmen being ROTY because there were always more impactful rookies. Like don't get me wrong he's not a bad player but nobody would be saying he was ROTY if PRX didn't win Toronto and whilst yes he was a part of their victory, he really wasn't the determining factor imo.

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9wntr
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spyzera
akai
recoil

niche mena content Conosur 9wntr out

#78
abdd
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catNmouse [#34]

does he still get glaze anymore? it’s either j0ngg threads dogpiling on him or it’s f0rsaken and something glaze threads. he was their best player in stage 1 yet i haven’t seen him get appreciated as much as the other players

I wonder who would hate on him

#79
abdd
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Acethyr [#17]

overrated: cryocells
properly rated: less
underrated: eeiu

Eeiu might be the best scan ini in na

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Lakiafan32
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Overrated: Forsaken
Properly rated: Jawgemo (no one thinks he's the goat, but recognizes he's a solid player)
Underrated: Meiy

Underhated: Xeppa

#81
nooomy
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prope1 [#33]

w ball knowledge on shyy

when he goes to another team and is a top 3 sentinel in the world I will not be surprised

#82
CrOwNz315
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Underrated- bao, Chloric, kyu

#83
HammerDJ
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dimmed [#76]

I put nAts in properly because I didn't know who to put but I always disagreed with Patmen being ROTY because there were always more impactful rookies. Like don't get me wrong he's not a bad player but nobody would be saying he was ROTY if PRX didn't win Toronto and whilst yes he was a part of their victory, he really wasn't the determining factor imo.

that's a fair and acceptable take my g ✓

In a way, the best impact Patmen had on the team was allowing the team to play comps that didn't have a hard requirement for mindfreak to ONLY play Omen, enabling them to play more diverse comps..

Also, while yes PRX winning Toronto is a big reason why people (me) think he's ROTY material.. it isn't fair to say the equivalent of "if (Team) didn't achieve (Milestone), (Player) wouldn't be considered to be one of the best"

I would think that there are very very few cases where the "best" players who tend to be in discussions are from non-performing teams.

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HammerDJ
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Lakiafan32 [#80]

Overrated: Forsaken
Properly rated: Jawgemo (no one thinks he's the goat, but recognizes he's a solid player)
Underrated: Meiy

Underhated: Xeppa

booooooooooo

I will never abide g0atsaken slander

#85
HammerDJ
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HammerDJ [#84]

booooooooooo

I will never abide g0atsaken slander

he's to me in valorant what LeBron is to me in baskeyball :D

(u are my sunshine)

#86
inuis
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Zerphyr1 [#22]

he is legit super consistent. always the mvp on his teams (sen and xset) who both have been very successful

mvping on s0n means nothing with 3 people playing with their monitors off every map

#87
moomoomoomeadows
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BerLINglazer [#18]

op crutch

vlr users will never be satisfied unless aspas starts getting kills with his bare fists

#88
gordonramsay
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catNmouse [#28]

overrated: valyn (as an IGL)
properly rated: s0m
underrated: skuba

nah valyn is lowkey underrated, hes def one of the better igls for sure

#89
Zerphyr1
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prope1 [#30]

he used to be massively underrated, after winning champs he's starting to get more properly rated but theres still so many stat stevens who refuse to recognize how impressive his util usage + midrounding/IGLing has been, not to mention how consistently good he's performed regardless of what team he's on

yeah but thats "Used to be massively underrated" the question is about currently.

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FrogGrenade
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catNmouse [#28]

overrated: valyn (as an IGL)
properly rated: s0m
underrated: skuba

Valyn is really good at IGL-ing. Coaching staff probably helps but G2/Guard have a really good handle on map control, hiding what their intention is, and conditioning.

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dazzil
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chasethefuture [#58]

CHICHOO or S1mon
s0m
KangKang or nephh

s1mon fr, chichoo rn too, but chichoo on champs 2024 and masters bangkok was him, he was the best player itw in this moment, oat overrated ig

#92
daboi
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prope1 [#30]

he used to be massively underrated, after winning champs he's starting to get more properly rated but theres still so many stat stevens who refuse to recognize how impressive his util usage + midrounding/IGLing has been, not to mention how consistently good he's performed regardless of what team he's on

bro. do you really think Ethan was all that in 24? like he was the lone consistent player in NRG? what about 22? or his 100T stint?

#93
daboi
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koldamentafan [#39]

Yetujey is dogshit

no bruh dude was legit him on last year FUT. this year hes shown glimpses but hes deffo a top senti in EMEA

#94
chasethefuture
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dazzil [#91]

s1mon fr, chichoo rn too, but chichoo on champs 2024 and masters bangkok was him, he was the best player itw in this moment, oat overrated ig

100 percent, i just hate the narrative that chichoo and simon carried kangkang to the trophy

#95
PP12123213123
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Overrated - Chronical
Properly rated - Aspas
Underrated - Primmie

#96
Nilonesia
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prope1 [#33]

w ball knowledge on shyy

He once went 18-0 against me in a dm so now I’m a fan

#97
FrogGrenade
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Overrated: mwzera
Underrated: Babybay

#98
9wntr
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FrogGrenade [#97]

Overrated: mwzera
Underrated: Babybay

who still rates mwzera

#99
Pototo
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Brawk
Ethan
TenZ(current form)

#100
FrogGrenade
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Lakiafan32 [#80]

Overrated: Forsaken
Properly rated: Jawgemo (no one thinks he's the goat, but recognizes he's a solid player)
Underrated: Meiy

Underhated: Xeppa

Xeppaa is rlly good c9(Xeppaa included) just choke its sad.

#101
FrogGrenade
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9wntr [#98]

who still rates mwzera

KRU apparently

#102
riensluvr
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Overrated - zmjjkk
Perfectly rated - chichoo
Underrated - slowly

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