They were quite close to beating them even when they had zellsis and bang. Ofc 2026 sen will beat them. Its not even a question

I hope GE 2-0

Sen, eg, ge, mibr, fnatic and kc

You're underestimating every player mentioned here

Replace drx with t1 then we're good 👍

No I meant the fifth point. The Skuba one

I thought you were cooking until the fourth point 🥀 why bait like this??

True but if the team chemistry is good and frost does a good job coaching, surely they have the potential to be a top 3 team in pacific

Why do you think there's a gap between them and top 6?? Clearly they are on a similar level mechanically

I think udotan will be the main duelist

That's not how it works. There are specific criterias for a org to stay in the league. That's why optic didn't get into franchise even though they were the best team in 2022. Global spends more money compared to team secret and zeta. They always atleast try to be competitive every year

https://www.vlr.gg/153302/oxygen-academy-vs-st-clair-saints-varsity-knights-monthly-gauntlet-2022-october-group-stage-win

Crunchy the aussie goat 🐐

Good

Its great that there are still 100t believers🥲

Styron
Sephiroth
Ptc
Apinya
Xan

G2, nrg, sen, mibr, lev
Fnatic, vitality, bbl, kc, th

Sen 2-0 mibr

I'm not saying that sen should be higher or smth but g2 should be first in Americas atleast. Your reasoning for nrg is also flawed. Nrg had the advantage bcoz they got keiko who played exactly the same roles as som and arguably an upgrade. However g2 lost one of their most crucial player and got babybay(a clear downgrade), they had to swap roles too and still managed to 3-0 nrg and it wasn't even close

I didn't complain about sen being low lmao. Go watch the matches before the hud, you can clearly see the pings in the scoreboard of every player

It was in 2023 😭😭😭 and they won masters after that 😭 how do you guys come up with this??

Yes ofcourse tenz and friends were a very very good team 🤣🤣

Are you ok bro??

Which offseason event they won??

I didn't even knew that they won something when I became a fan. I was a fan of them since 2023. So no I'm not a bandwagoner. Btw bandwagoners are ppl who only support an org when they are doing very well and stops supporting them when they falloff

What's wrong with that??

This is why I can't take this rankings seriously. You guys just don't understand why g2 is so strong in Americas. Their playstyle heavily counters every Americas teams doesn't matter if nrg won something or not. You Just can't put nrg over g2 in Americas. Btw all of the players in srb vs sentinels had 40 ping including sen players except ion, he was in 7 ping

Ohh ok 👍

Stax is not washed 😭😭 what are u on about??

Sen over lev and mibr is just my unpopular opinion and flair. Bbl should be better than both kc and th. Comeback is not looking that good so I had to put them lower. As for rrq, yes they should be top 5 atleast. Both geng and rrq will be on the same level i think

Who are you talking about??

He was good in viper too

That's true

I don't know about that, his highest ratings are on cyber and viper

Kyu, reduxx, timotino, vora, nerve, alym are all t2 players

This guy was the best player in kdg challengers. Yet he is looking like an average player in na, just goes to show that how competitive and talented na t2 players are.

I said that in terms of general duelist players, he is passive.

You didn't understand what i said at all. I can't debate this any further. If you think he deserves best duelist of the year in Americas then sure I guess

Calling him baiter is more of an insult. I called passive, that doesn't mean that its a bad thing to be passive. I'm saying a duelist shouldn't be passive

Just say that you don't know about how ratings are done in the first place. He took the least amount of first engagements in terms of a duelist. Just compare his first player engagement to kangkang in champions and you'll understand.

Its about Americas lmao. If you see him play, you'll understand that he is the most passive duelist in the world

I can't spoil you but you'll see in the future there are far more levels to this shit. Elders are not the strongest in marines

First of all its about Americas. I agree that he should get player of the year but he doesn't deserve duelist of the year

Yes but its about Americas awards kaajak is an emea player

No, player of the year should be someone who was top of the scoreboard, ratings and stats. Duelist of the year should be someone who was sacrificing himself for the team, making space while getting kills, that's what duelist means

Kaajak was the best duelist in emea

I can understand him being player of the year but duelist of the year?? Do they not understand what is the difference between player and duelist?? Zekken, jawgemo and mada are far more deserving of duelist of the year

Lev is not close to the top3. You guys are overhyping them bcoz they won against drx when they are in their worst form. I'd agree that the players are definitely exceptional but their calling and protocols are not even comparable to g2 and nrg.

Can we stop with this t2 players bullshit. All of them have been competing for 5 years. You can say that they done have t1 experience but all of them are t1 level players

Its good like this. Its better to be underrated than overrated

Just like vitality 2025